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Old May 17th, 2008, 01:29 AM   #1
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VANCOUVER | Vancouver Art Gallery | Proposed

New art gallery part of BC Place announcement


John Mackie
Vancouver Sun

Friday, May 16, 2008


The Vancouver Art Gallery is getting a new home on the False Creek waterfront.

The new location for the gallery was a surprise addition to Premier Gordon Campbell's announcement today of a new roof for BC Place Stadium.

The gallery will be located on the current site of the Plaza of Nations, just south of BC Place.

There is no design for the building as yet, and no date for when it will open.

The provincial government recently pledged $50 million for a new art gallery, which will probably cost $150 million to $200 million to build.

Previously, the gallery had announced that its preferred site was the old Greyhound bus depot site at Georgia and Beatty.

"The False Creek location presents an exciting opportunity to imagine a new Vancouver Art Gallery on this beautiful waterfront site, one that would serve as an anchor for this extension of Vancouver's thriving cultural community," said VAG director Kathleen Bartels in a press release. jmackie@png.canwest.com
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Old May 17th, 2008, 01:36 AM   #2
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Vancouver Art Gallery will be B.C. Place's neighbour

By Jessica Werb

Six months after going public with plans to relocate to the former bus-depot site behind the Queen Elizabeth Theatre, the Vancouver Art Gallery has been granted a new home—beside B.C. Place Stadium.

The surprise announcement came today (May 16) from the premier’s office, couched in a press release focused on the stadium’s renovation. According to the release, the BC Pavilion Corporation—the provincial Crown corporation that operates B.C. Place—worked with the City of Vancouver, the Vancouver Art Gallery, and Canadian Metropolitan Properties to move the VAG to the CMP-owned Plaza of Nations.

Canadian Metropolitan Properties will provide the VAG with a waterfront site for a 320,000-square-foot facility, in return for future development considerations from the City of Vancouver. The new gallery will be double the size, have a footprint of 110,000 square feet, and offer the institution additional opportunities for outdoor programming.

The site puts the public art institution near both the stadium and the Edgewater Casino, and reopens speculation about the city’s “cultural precinct” project, in which the VAG was expected to anchor an arts hub situated around the Queen Elizabeth Theatre, bounded by Georgia, Dunsmuir, Hamilton and Beatty streets.

Architect Bing Thom, the brains behind an early cultural-precinct model featuring a decentralized collection of smaller institutions, hailed the announcement as a good move—provided the Georgia Viaduct is removed.

“It will connect the two ends of False Creek and Stanley Park and give it two strong anchors,” he told the Straight in a phone call. “But we should really take down the Georgia Viaduct so we can get to the water. Georgia Street then will be a phenomenal street, with the art gallery on one end and Stanley Park on the other. It will really enliven, I think, the whole end of False Creek and hopefully in the future connect False Creek to Chinatown and Gastown. The whole East Side will get a big pick-up.”

Thom said he hoped to see new arts facilities built on the former bus-depot site, including a national gallery of aboriginal art and a home for the performance venue championed by the Concert Hall Arts Complex society (formerly the Coal Harbour Arts Complex society), which would consist of a 1,800-seat hall and a 400- to 600-seat theatre.


“There’s rumours that there’s some legs to building a new kind of Chan Centre downtown,” said Thom. “I think it’s a series of very good moves. It’s good for the city, good for the province, good for the arts. I think a lot of that depends on taking a hard look at taking down the Georgia Viaduct. That would be phenomenal. That would really re-energize that end of the downtown.”

Calls to the city’s office of cultural affairs have not been returned.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 03:35 AM   #3
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That is awesome! Sounds like Bing Thom has been busy in Vancouver and Surrey.
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It will really enliven, I think, the whole end of False Creek and hopefully in the future connect False Creek to Chinatown and Gastown. The whole East Side will get a big pick-up.”
This sounds encouraging, I really would love too see Chinatown in it's glory again.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 05:53 AM   #4
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Vancouver Art Gallery to move to prime waterfront site
The surprising move was applauded by politicians but left some critics wondering where funding will come from for the new Plaza of Nations location

John Mackie, Vancouver Sun
Published: Friday, May 16, 2008

VANCOUVER - After a three-year search, last fall the Vancouver Art Gallery announced plans to relocate to the former Greyhound Bus Depot site at Georgia and Hamilton.

Then two weeks ago, the provincial government called with an offer the gallery couldn't refuse.

And so Friday, Premier Gordon Campbell made the surprise announcement that the Vancouver Art Gallery is moving to the False Creek waterfront.

The VAG move was shoehorned into Campbell's press conference announcing that a new retractable roof will be installed on BC Place Stadium after the 2010 Olympics.

The gallery will be located just east of BC Place on the current site of the Plaza of Nations. The building, which has yet to be designed, will be 320,000 sq. ft., double the size of the VAG's current home in the old Vancouver courthouse at Robson and Hornby.

VAG director Kathleen Bartels said the gallery had considered the Plaza of Nations site when it was conducting its search for a new home, but "at that time the land just wasn't attainable for us."

This changed when the site's owner, Canadian Metropolitan Properties, cut a deal with PavCo (the provincial Crown corporation that runs BC Place) and the City of Vancouver for what a press release called "future development considerations" on Canadian Metropolitan's False Creek property.

Bartels is enthusiastic about the new site. "I think it's probably one of the most exciting sites in North America, to have a waterfront property in a [place] like Vancouver," she said. "It's a prime location."

Premier Campbell concurs.

"This is an opportunity for a 320,000-square-foot facility to complement British Columbia Place, to complement the whole eastern end of Georgia Street," he said.
"We think that the waterfront location will be spectacular."

Vancouver Mayor Sam Sullivan chimed in that the False Creek waterfront is the perfect setting for the type of landmark structure the VAG is hoping to build.
"There is a real advantage to this site, in that it can take a real iconic piece of architecture that will be right on the waterfront, and will really I think define the city," said Sullivan.

Bartels said that the VAG will hold an international competition to design the new building. She hopes it will open in late 2013 or early 2014, hopefully with a show by Vancouver's international art superstar Jeff Wall.

But precise details, such as the cost and who's going to pay for it, are sketchy. The standard formula in the past has been that the cost is split three ways between private fundraising and the federal and provincial governments.

The province has already announced it will give $50 million toward the new gallery, which means it might be a $150 million project. But it could be much higher: The Art Gallery of Ontario in Toronto is undergoing a $254 million expansion designed by the internationally renowned architect Frank Gehry.

Another internationally acclaimed Vancouver artist, Stan Douglas, said the VAG is in dire need of a new facility.

"They always had trouble growing into that old [courthouse] building," said Douglas.

"To have a purpose-built building would be nothing but a benefit to the gallery and the city."

Still, he was surprised by the move from downtown to the waterfront.
"I thought the bus station was a better location," he said.

"I liked that area - the combination of the [Queen Elizabeth] theatre and access to downtown, it's a much more prominent location. It's more integrated with the city, the downtown core. The [False Creek location] is a bit off to the side, but you've got to work with what you can get."

Now the VAG has moved, the old bus depot/Larwill Park site on Georgia comes into play. Mayor Sullivan hinted that it might still house a cultural facility, the long-delayed Coal Harbour Arts Complex. The city collected $20 million from developers and the province for the Coal Harbour Arts Complex, but the land was used for the new convention centre.

"We now have the opportunity in the Larwill [Park] site to look at the concert hall and theatre that's looking for a home, and possibly get some revenue from the site as well," said Sullivan.

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Wow, finaly some real action!
This is fantastic news!
I liked the old bus station site for the new VAG because of the viaduct issue, but now, with the possibility of getting a concert hall at that location, as well as a new VAG at the waterfront, is just wonderful news.
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Wow, finaly some real action!
This is fantastic news!
I liked the old bus station site for the new VAG because of the viaduct issue, but now, with the possibility of getting a concert hall at that location, as well as a new VAG at the waterfront, is just wonderful news.
While I'd love to see another concert hall, don't we already have the Queen Elizabeth Theatre's two halls next door? One seating something like 3,000, the other 1,000.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 01:12 AM   #7
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it seems to be a slow summer....

A new spot to park the Carrs


Adam McDowell, National Post Published: Monday, July 07, 2008

Stuart Davis, Canwest News Service

VANCOUVER - When the Vancouver Art Gallery finally moves into its new (and possibly starchitect-designed) facility on the shore of False Creek in the middle of the next decade, it's a safe bet the door to the director's office won't still have "Chief Justice's Chambers" stencilled on the glass.

Though it's counted among Western Canada's most important public art institutions, boasting ever-rising attendance numbers and first-rate curatorial standards, the VAG has been housed since 1983 in an ageing, grand-but-cramped building that began its 97-year life as a courthouse (and still serves as one for movie shoots). The province gave the gallery a strong push toward building a new home last March: $50-million in cash and a deal to grant it the land where the Plaza of Nations, a doomed vestige of Expo 86, now stands.

It's a start, but the VAG must still find an architect, raise hundreds of millions of dollars and wait at least until 2013 or '14 before it can start displaying art in its first purpose-built facility.

In the meantime, like most everyone else at the VAG, director Kathleen Bartels professes a certain affection for the Robson Street pile. She somehow even manages to smile as she lists its frustrating limitations.

Take, for example, the fact that there's no way to prevent visitors from gawking at the installation of temporary exhibitions as they travel between floors. "It's all within sight of the public. You can't close something off so people can't see all of your mess and what's happening behind the scenes," Bartels says. "We find it extremely challenging.

"We also find it challenging that we don't have dedicated galleries for the permanent collection." This is arguably the VAG's biggest weakness. "We don't have dedicated galleries where people can say, 'Every time I come here I want to see that Jeff Wall that you have, or that great Emily Carr.' When we don't have Emily Carrs up, people complain."

The litany of infrastructure woes continues: a confusing layout for visitors; an outmoded HVAC system (heating/ ventilaton/air conditioning); no dedicated areas for educational programs. Senior curator Bruce Grenville says, "There are gorgeous things about this building, and there are things that make you pull your hair out every time you deal with them."

It's no wonder Bartels smiles wider when discussing the VAG's plans to move into a new facility. The Chicago native's endearingly Midwest-accented voice brightens as she ticks off a list of features the new building will possess.

"It's not just a wish list. We know what we need to have," she says. "Space for emerging artists -- on a regular basis we'd like to show what's happening in British Columbia or internationally. Who are those younger artists from L. A., New York, Vancouver, Hong Kong or Tokyo who are at the forefront?

"We need public gathering space, which we don't have. We can't seat a big crowd here."

Most importantly, the VAG will double its exhibition space to 320,000 square feet.

The next waypoint on Bartels's "stringent timeline" arrives this fall, when the gallery plans to put out a request for proposals.

Once a plan is chosen, the design debates will begin. "I know we will hire an architect who matches the aspirations of this city, this province and this institution," Bartels says.

It sounds as if she's preparing the city to welcome the work of an auteur architect: Vancouver, be prepared for a Frank Gehry, Santiago Calatrava or Daniel Libeskind.

"You know, I think there's this whole thing right now where people are anti-icon, anti-starchitect. It's overplayed, frankly. We want a visionary, whoever it might be, whether known or relatively unknown."

Then there's the pesky, multi-year task of knocking on corporate, private and government doors for donations. Bartels says setting a fundraising goal is "premature before you choose an architect." "When you start putting a number out there, people come back and say, 'Oh, you said it was only going to be this much.' It's just way too early." The Art Gallery of Ontario's renovation cost $254-million; the VAG's final figure will likely land in the same general neighbourhood.

Building a new facility means trying to please a lot of people, and the journey can be tough on a museum director. Bartels knows this. "You're always going to find criticism, no matter what you do."

However, there's reason to believe she will be able to please at least most of the people. Bartels has helped restore the VAG to productive harmony since she arrived from the Museum of Contemporary Art in Los Angeles in 2001. Before her time, there was squabbling over the artistic merit of exhibitions between the board (which was perceived as conservative), the staff (which was not) and local artists. The leadership of the past did not get anywhere with its dreams of building a new gallery.

"We need to get this place humming," Bartels was quoted around the time she arrived, and she did. Membership has risen from 9,000 to 40,000 under her watch; the collection has grown significantly, from about 6,000 pieces to 10,000; and admissions revenue has doubled to more than $2-million. In January, 2007, she signed up for five more years in the chief justice's -- sorry, make that director's --office.

"I think it's an exciting challenge for me personally, for our staff, for our board," Bartels says. "The Vancouver Art Gallery's ready."

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Star-architect-wise, only Calatrava's style will work for Vancouver, though I prefer he work his magic with our stadiums, and that the art gallery will be in a more urban location instead of wasting prime waterfront with a largely window-less monument.
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why would it have to be windowless?
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Artwork usually can't handle direct sunlight. Most art gallerys like lots of indirect natural light, which is possible pretty much everywhere, even in the depths of manhattan (ie MOMA), so it will be a waste of open space to put it on the waterfront. Personally I'd prefer an infill-style MOMA-like gallery in Vancouver... but if it ends up on the waterfront, it better be part of a massive development, surrounded by high-density retail/recreational centres. And I wouldn't mind Calatrava doing it.
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but they could make a glass structure and than have walls inside that that block the sunlight

that new addition in ontario is pretty nice

the sydney opera house is windowless too

as long as it makes a statement windows are whatever
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Are there any plans for the old courthouse building? It must have heritage status...
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