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View Poll Results: Which country will host the 2024 Olympic Summer Games?
Argentina 28 2.78%
Australia 18 1.79%
Brazil 15 1.49%
Canada 48 4.76%
Chile 24 2.38%
China 12 1.19%
Egypt 2 0.20%
France 150 14.88%
Germany 48 4.76%
India 14 1.39%
Indonesia 21 2.08%
Italy 64 6.35%
Kenya 7 0.69%
Malaysia 29 2.88%
Mexico 47 4.66%
Morocco 17 1.69%
Netherlands 10 0.99%
New Zealand 17 1.69%
Peru 5 0.50%
Philippines 25 2.48%
Qatar 10 0.99%
Russia 73 7.24%
South Africa 60 5.95%
South Korea 10 0.99%
Sweden 10 0.99%
Thailand 27 2.68%
United Arab Emirates 33 3.27%
United Kingdom 12 1.19%
United States of America 172 17.06%
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Old December 25th, 2014, 08:09 PM   #1681
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My candidates of the dreams:

Rome
Paris
San Francisco (not Los Angeles again)
Cape Town
Barcelona (why not?)
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Old December 26th, 2014, 03:55 PM   #1682
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Barcelona (why not?)
Why not? Do you know, Barcelona hosted the 1992 edition?
Spain will have to wait at least 80-100 years!
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Old December 27th, 2014, 03:08 AM   #1683
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No German city?
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 02:21 PM   #1684
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2024 Olympic bid will be a two way horserace

The 2024 Olympic games will either be awarded to an African city or an American city. I doubt the games will head back to Europe after London 2012 or Asia after Beijing 2008.

We could very well see two countries running in the final round.

South Africa and USA

Like the IOC has indicated , its for Africa to lose. A credible bid is all that is needed from them to secure the summer games in 2024.

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Old January 3rd, 2015, 02:22 PM   #1685
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You just forgot to mention the 2016 Games in America and the 2020 Games in Asia.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 02:24 PM   #1686
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Will be for Europe. Paris is an evidence.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 02:28 PM   #1687
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It's either Rome or Paris.
Everything else would be a huge surprise.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 04:25 PM   #1688
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Group launches campaign to stop San Francisco Olympic hopes

A local group has just launched a campaign to stop San Francisco's Olympic hopes. The city is one of four lobbying to represent the United States in its bid to host the 2024 summer games.

"We'll likely be going to the ballot," former San Francisco Supervisor Chris Daly told ABC7 News.

Daly says the newly formed coalition "SF No 2024 Olympics" will ask voters to demand that no public money be spent on the Olympics, if San Francisco were to host them.

A letter was sent to the U.S. Olympic Committee and signed by a few neighborhood groups and organizations opposing San Francisco's bid for the 2024 Olympics.

"What we're saying to the Olympics is if you want to come to San Francisco, we want to make sure that the taxpayers aren't left on the hook," Daly said.

Several studies have been done on how the Olympic Games in host cities have exceeded their budgets. One in particular shows that every game since 1960 has overrun its initial budget by an average of 179 percent.

Four U.S. cities are bidding for the 2024 Olympics: Boston, Los Angeles, Washington D.C. and San Francisco.

On Dec. 16, 2014 in Redwood City, all of these cities appeared before the U.S. Olympic Committee.

"I think that today was very clear that the USOC is looking for a partner that will work together with the local, with the big committee, to bring the Olympic Games home to the United States and we think we would be a great choice," Anne Warner Cribbs, with the San Francisco Olympic Bid Committee, said.

The members leading the bid for San Francisco have said the existence of new venues in the Bay Area would reduce the price tag for hosting the games. On Friday, that group declined to comment on Daly's editorial and demands.

San Francisco Supervisor John Avalos said San Francisco has been done this road before with the America's Cup.

"When it came to the America's Cup, we expected there was going to be a lot more money raised by the private sector to put on the event and they actually didn't raise as much money as they said they were," Avalos said.

San Francisco ended up losing more than $11 million. Some are concerned in San Francisco that if the Olympics takes place, it will have an even bigger financial hit if we host the Olympics.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 07:22 PM   #1689
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You just forgot to mention the 2016 Games in America
Distance between London and Paris: 453 km
Distance between London and Rome: 1866 km

Distance between San Francisco and Rio de Janiero: 10653 km
Distance between Los Angeles and Rio de Janiero: 10135 km
Distance between Boston and Rio de Janiero: 7797 km
Distance between Washington and Rio de Janiero: 7720 km
Distance between the southernmost point in the continental US (Not even a candidate for hosting Olympics) and Rio de Janiero: 6719 km

Not even comparable. You might as well count Eurasia and Africa as one continental region if you're going to count the Americas as one continental region. It's equally as ridiculous.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 08:44 PM   #1690
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OMG don't start that BS again.
I thought we are over that.

There are only 3 countries in North America but massive amounts of uninhabited wasteland.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 10:27 PM   #1691
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It doesn't matter how inhabited a place is, airplanes fly the same speed over civilization as they do wilderness. A mile is a mile and a kilometer is a kilometer no matter where it is. North America and South America are two different continents who just happen to share a name.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 10:48 PM   #1692
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You are pretty new here.
Have a look back at some older pages.
I seriously don't have the time and inclination to go through all that again.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 11:01 PM   #1693
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I've been through this type of argument before on this thread, but if you don't want to state your reasoning, that's fine by me.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 11:13 PM   #1694
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Haha, this old chesnut again!

Equating the US with Europe and expecting as many hosting opportunities is stupid. It competes as one country of 300m and tops the medal table because of this.

And at the other extreme seeing the US as just any other country is also not right. Its financial muscle (e.g. broadcast revenue), number of potential host cities, athletic performance, and historic importance to the Olympic movement mean it will always be a contender and more often than other nations.

The US will get the Games more often than any European country but not as often as the Europe as a whole which is, generally, fair enough. It is, and I've said this before, a semi or sub continent in Olympic bidding terms. More clout than any other nation but its backers shouldn't equate it to a continent.
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You make some good points that they should not be equal, but I am still going back to saying if Europe gets awarded 2024, it will have been 4 in the 32 years since Barcelona. I get that they should have more, but a 4:1 ratio of Europe to the United States is too much. 3:2 in 32 years could be balanced. But if the US doesnt get 2024, Europe certainly should not get it.
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Bullshit. You just start counting where it suits you.
You could also start with the 1984 Games that would be 40 years, 2 American Olympics and 3 European ones.
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Ok, lets look at this analytically. There will have been 29 olympic games that actually took place come the end of 2020, provided no world war breaks out and cancels Rio or Tokyo. 2024 will be the 30th.

Looking at the most recent third, 9 of 29 starting with 1988 Seoul
3 in Asia
3 in Europe
1 in US
2 Elsewhere

Looking at the most recent half, 14 of 29 starting with 1968 Mexico City
3 in Asia
5 in Europe
2 in US
4 Elsewhere

Im not going back any further because it will have been 60 years since 1964 Tokyo and a whole lot changes in 60 years, including demographics that make this argument happen in the first place.
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Of course you start with Seoul and not LA.
But even this chart shows that it's done exactly right.

The US get more games than any other single country but not more than the respective continents.

That's exactly the right way.

For me this would be the perfect scenario:

2024: Paris
2028: South Africa (Joburg, CT, Durban)
2032: NYC (until then the New Penn Station, Madison Square Garden and WTC will be finished)
2036: Istanbul
no need to go through that again...
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Old January 4th, 2015, 01:01 AM   #1695
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no need to go through that again...
None of that, in any way, validates your continued insistence that an Olympics in Rio de Janiero, a South American city, somehow should count against the chances of an Olympic Games in a North American city 8 years later.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 02:04 AM   #1696
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2024 Summer Olympics / Games of the XXXIII Olympiad bids

I haven't said that. Think before you talk.
I just said that he didn't mention it.

But it is interesting how the IOC will handle the North/South American case because there is just no precedent.

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Old January 4th, 2015, 02:09 AM   #1697
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Handle it the same way they handle the "Europe/Asia" case, because North and South America are just as much different continents as Europe and Asia.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 02:34 AM   #1698
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Well Mexico(which is already 1/3) is not much different of South America not to mention the ever growing hispanic population in the US especially in the South.

And you definetely haven't been to either Europe or Asia. If you were you would know there are little to no cultural similarities.
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Old January 4th, 2015, 02:56 AM   #1699
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What do cultural similarities have to do with this? We're talking about distance between places. How would the fact that Brazil is Hispanic and the United States has a growing Hispanic population ever factor into an IOC decision? How is it even relevant?
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Old January 4th, 2015, 03:06 AM   #1700
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It's more relevant than distances.

If the Games are held in LA they are still Home Games for all Americans from Seattle to Miami.
Whereas French, German or Italian people don't feel like the Athens or London games were anything close to that. Do I really have to repeat that all over again.
The EU are 28 sovereign states. You should come to terms with that.

Let alone the fact that in Europe which is roughly ⅓ the size of NA there are at least 2 times as many cities capable/worth of hosting an Olympics.
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