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Old September 8th, 2009, 07:36 AM   #1381
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Our city buses are too cramped! Nakakaasar kasi pupunuin ng kunduktor tapos hindi na ako makalabas eh galing pa ako sa dulo. Tapos kapag sa Makati na laging traffic gusto ng driver magmadali! Arghjhh
dapat talaga ang next project ng MMDA, eh ung pagbawal sa mga pasaherong nakatayo sa mga bus, or at least limitahan lang ung mga nakatayo...

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Old September 8th, 2009, 08:07 AM   #1382
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TMA trains guns on used Korean buses
By BERNIE CAHILES-MAGKILAT
September 7, 2009, 6:22pm
Manila Bulletin

After cracking down on the undervalued brand new China buses, the local bus manufacturers are now up in arms against the alarming inflow of undervalued second hand buses imported from Korea.

An industry official said that Truck Manufacturers Association (TMA), a group of bus and truck assemblers, will contest the Bureau of Customs’ decision to revalue the imported second hand Korean buses to only $8,000 per unit without consulting the local industry.

A total of 50 second hand imported buses (Hyundai and Daewoo) from Korea were held by the BoC for undervaluation at only $2,000 per unit.

The industry believes that the $8,000 per unit revaluation by the BoC is still below the appropriate $11,000 to $12,000 per unit price for a second-hand imported bus.

We are going to undertake consultations with the BOC and the Bureau of Import Services on their revaluation, the official said.

The industry was alarmed by the influx of second hand Korean buses, which have been estimated to reach over 300 units since the start of the year.

These second hand buses have found their way into the Philippines because 9 year-old and older buses can no longer be registered in Korea.

Secondly, there is no prohibition as to their importation as long as these imports are able to comply with the EURO 2 requirements for environment standards before they can be registered with the Land Transportation Office.

But the official said that the certificates of compliance on the EURO 2 standards issued by the Department of Energy are allegedly manipulated because these second hand imported buses cannot really pass the EURO 2 standards and therefore cannot be registered with the LTO.

Local truck manufacturers have been affected by the imported buses, especially Columbian Manufacturing Corp., which is a local franchisee for the assembly of Hyundai brand.

There have been a total of 21,000 buses registered with LTO and about 2,500 units are being registered annually for both brand new and second hand buses.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 08:29 AM   #1383
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dapat talaga ang next project ng MMDA, eh ung pagbawal sa mga pasaherong nakatayo sa mga bus, or at least limitahan lang ung mga nakatayo...

Ok lang naman nakatayo parang LRT/MRT. Ang problem kasi yung specs mismo nung bus. Para sa akin ito ang dapat baguhin:
1.)Paano ka makakalabas kung may mga nakaharang na upuan? Dapat yung upuan harapan parang train.
2.) Dapat mas mababa yung entrance exit ng buses para madaling makalabas pasok ang mga pasahero. Sa ganitong paraan mas mabilis tumigil at umandar yung bus.
3.) Yung size ng bus natin dito masyadong makipot at maiksi.
4.) And most of all dapat may dedicated lane ang buses or other PUVs na hindi puwedeng panghimasukan ng ibang sasakyan para tuloy-tuloy ang biyahe kahit traffic sa ibang lane.

Lahat ng bus natin sa MM except for Fort Boni bus ay pang-provincial bus and specs.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 08:41 AM   #1384
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Ok lang naman nakatayo parang LRT/MRT. Ang problem kasi yung specs mismo nung bus. Para sa akin ito ang dapat baguhin:
1.)Paano ka makakalabas kung may mga nakaharang na upuan? Dapat yung upuan harapan parang train.
2.) Dapat mas mababa yung entrance exit ng buses para madaling makalabas pasok ang mga pasahero. Sa ganitong paraan mas mabilis tumigil at umandar yung bus.
3.) Yung size ng bus natin dito masyadong makipot at maiksi.
4.) And most of all dapat may dedicated lane ang buses or other PUVs na hindi puwedeng panghimasukan ng ibang sasakyan para tuloy-tuloy ang biyahe kahit traffic sa ibang lane.

Lahat ng bus natin sa MM except for Fort Boni bus ay pang-provincial bus and specs.
to maximize profit syempre kaya pang provincial bus ung binibili ng mga city ops na bus co...

i've seen some city buses form china na asa edsa (kellen ata ung company), sabi minodify daw ang upuan para imbis na jeepney/mrt style ginawa nilang 2x2...
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Old September 8th, 2009, 08:44 AM   #1385
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Pinapayagan kasi ng LTFRB eh. Dapat isabatas na yan para walang makapalag. Yun nga lang, hawak sa leeg ng mga operators ang mga pulitiko natin. Konting rally lang nila, laglag bayag ng mga pulitiko.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:25 AM   #1386
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Dapat kz yung mga city buses ay parang BRT style eh. O kaya mala The Fort Bus yung mga Mercedes Benz.

Panu yung mga pulitikong babae, diba walang bayag mga yun? Sorry OT madam XP pinpatawa ko lang po kayo hihi
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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:39 AM   #1387
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hahahahha... in fairness natawa naman ako. Kunwari laglag tinggil naman sila. Shocks TMI! Naalala ko tuloy yung nakalagay sa bus ni Claire De La Fuente. "Ride na po kayo". Pepe mo Claire!

Anyway, feeling ko kahit yung simpleng pagpapalit lang ng specs ng bus eh magra-rally na ng bonggang bongga ang mga operators.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:18 AM   #1388
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yung mga bus ba ni claire yung tinanggal yung isang upuan sa 3x3 sa 1st 4 (?) rows para hindi mashado magsikip. Ang tagal ko nang di nakakaskay ng bus eh, PNR nkz ako

Tama ka kz, walang political will ang LTFRB. Pano ba naman, ang mga operator ay mga influential people. Tignan mo nalang yung statement ni Chairman Suansing na magrereduce na sha ng buses sa EDSA. Siguradong "mapropromote" sha sa sinabi nya.

Madami nadin bagong units na nagpply along EDSA at Ayala, kaso ang upuan nila ay hindi padin BRT type.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 03:15 PM   #1389
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share ko lang tong nakita ko sa Auckland thread. If I'm not wrong, the words of the red bus on the left says: FREE BUS? libre pasahe??

Ano kaya kung magkaroon niyan sa EDSA? Reklamo ba bus operators association pag merong ganyan?

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Old September 11th, 2009, 06:04 PM   #1390
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Tingnan mo yung bus nila ang lapad diba? Dapat ganyan sa atin kasi mas maraming tao ang dapat iserve dito sa MM kesa diyan Auckland.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 01:31 AM   #1391
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Guys, hindi lang sa EDSA problema ang bus na masikip dahil ang LAWTON-ALABANG route ay madaming sardinas na bus. For example dito ay ang ilang
units ng PASTRANA at PANDACAN TRANSPORT COOP. Ang ibang units nila ay modified na 3 x 3 seats per row. Imagine, gaano kasikip yun tapos may tatayo pa sa aisle. Ang mga operators nito talagang gusto malaki kita kawawa naman ang pasahero.

Mabuti na nga lang at nawala na ang mga lumang CORIMBA na kahoy pa ang bintana sa Lawton-Alabang dahil dito ko naranasan na walang ticket na ibinibigay ang kundoktor then one time going Alabang ay biglang nasiraan ang bus sa tapat ng Cash & Carry. Bigla naglaho ang kundoktor dala ang pamasahe namin. Hindi naman kami maka-transfer sa ibang bus nila dahil wala kami ticket or refund.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 08:14 AM   #1392
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Sa tingin ko dapat ang buong Metro Manila merong government controlled BRT type buses na magserve sa EDSA para ma-kontrol naman kahit papaano ang mga SPOILED BRAT na bus operators na iyan. Kung di sila susunod sa batas, lagyan ng gov't owned/operated BRT type bus para kung mag-rally sila, sila lang at di madadamay yung mga nagtatrabaho tapos mapu-pursige sila na baguhin ang seating capacity at layout ng bus nila. Dapat gawing medium term program para mabigyan sila ng panahon para maglikom ng pera upang baguhin ang mga bus nila. Pag nalagyan ng kahit 40 units BRT bus diyan, baka susunod sila. Tutal, kung susunod na iyong mga bus operators sa specs ng LTFRB para sa EDSA, pwede nang ipagbili ng gobyerno yung BRT units nila sa pribadong sektor.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 09:57 AM   #1393
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share ko lang tong nakita ko sa Auckland thread. If I'm not wrong, the words of the red bus on the left says: FREE BUS? libre pasahe??

Ano kaya kung magkaroon niyan sa EDSA? Reklamo ba bus operators association pag merong ganyan?

That's the City Circuit Free Bus. It basically functions as a shuttle operating only within a designated area, mostly in downtown Auckland.

The free City Circuit bus is a red, hybrid electric public transport option. Each bus has 30 passenger seats and has low floor access and wide entry/exit doors. The bus travels along Queen Street down to Britomart on the waterfront, to Albert Park, Symonds Street and along Wellesley Street to the Sky Tower. The City Circuit operates seven days a week, every ten minutes between the hours of 8am to 6pm.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 09:28 AM   #1394
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That's the City Circuit Free Bus. It basically functions as a shuttle operating only within a designated area, mostly in downtown Auckland.

The free City Circuit bus is a red, hybrid electric public transport option. Each bus has 30 passenger seats and has low floor access and wide entry/exit doors. The bus travels along Queen Street down to Britomart on the waterfront, to Albert Park, Symonds Street and along Wellesley Street to the Sky Tower. The City Circuit operates seven days a week, every ten minutes between the hours of 8am to 6pm.
That's good to know. Ba't di na lang lagyan ang mga specific parts ng Edsa ng ganun? O di kaya yung BRT type na government ang nagko-control para naman di maging spoiled brat ang mga bus operators.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 06:32 PM   #1395
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That's the City Circuit Free Bus. It basically functions as a shuttle operating only within a designated area, mostly in downtown Auckland.

The free City Circuit bus is a red, hybrid electric public transport option. Each bus has 30 passenger seats and has low floor access and wide entry/exit doors. The bus travels along Queen Street down to Britomart on the waterfront, to Albert Park, Symonds Street and along Wellesley Street to the Sky Tower. The City Circuit operates seven days a week, every ten minutes between the hours of 8am to 6pm.
There should be "City Circuit" bus concept that takes the Makati Loop route but adds the Ayala MRT Station as one of its stops. So that you can go down the MRT, then ride the circuit bus. Almost door to door convenience for Makati workers!

Same thing for the Ortigas MRT or the Shaw station, an "Ortigas Loop" bus. Basta importante, you go down the station and the bus stop is there, intergrated sha. Thus you don't have to walk or fight other passengers for those oh so comfortable jeeps.
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Guys, hindi lang sa EDSA problema ang bus na masikip dahil ang LAWTON-ALABANG route ay madaming sardinas na bus. For example dito ay ang ilang
units ng PASTRANA at PANDACAN TRANSPORT COOP. Ang ibang units nila ay modified na 3 x 3 seats per row. Imagine, gaano kasikip yun tapos may tatayo pa sa aisle. Ang mga operators nito talagang gusto malaki kita kawawa naman ang pasahero.

Mabuti na nga lang at nawala na ang mga lumang CORIMBA na kahoy pa ang bintana sa Lawton-Alabang dahil dito ko naranasan na walang ticket na ibinibigay ang kundoktor then one time going Alabang ay biglang nasiraan ang bus sa tapat ng Cash & Carry. Bigla naglaho ang kundoktor dala ang pamasahe namin. Hindi naman kami maka-transfer sa ibang bus nila dahil wala kami ticket or refund.
May mga ina-avoid ako na bus dun sa Starmall in Alabang, yung mga papuntang fairview or monumento. Eto yung mga second hand low floor buses na pina dami yung seating capacity. Hinde ako makaupo dahil ang sikip! Di kasha tuhod ko! I have to sit on the aisle side so that my knees are out towards the aisle. Aside from that usually mahina ercon ng mga bus na yon.

Problema may pila, so sometimes sunod sunod sila tapos sa likod pa yung mga brand new buses, yung mga "Ride na po" buses.

Those buses should be the first to go in the rationalization scheme, wala kayong malasakit sa pasahero eh di pwes wala rin kami **** sa inyo kung mawalan kayo ng negosyo.
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Problema may pila, so sometimes sunod sunod sila tapos sa likod pa yung mga brand new buses, yung mga "Ride na po" buses.
Eto ata yung Phil. Corinthian Liner ni Ms. Claire dela Fuente

Anyway, Nakasay nako ng CERES LINER kagabi (at last ), ang byahe ay Alabang-LRT-Cubao (bumaba ako sa Buendia).

Hindi ko alam kung bakit ba nagmamadali ang driver, pero mga 3x na kami muntik mabangga.
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He was probably driving like that because he needs to use the restroom really badly.

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Group: 1,000-bus rule on Edsa should be carried out equitably

by Rio N. Araja

A bus group is open to reducing the rolling stocks on Edsa from about 3,800 to 1,000 units, but enforcing it must be equitable.

Madeline Guillermo, president of the Mega Manila Operators and Drivers Alliance, has declared the support of her members to the attrition scheme of the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board in a bid to decongest the 24-km main artery, touted as the busiest and most congested in the National Capital Region.

“That was initiated by former LTFRB chairperson in 2005,” she told Standard Today, referring to Undersecretary Ma. Elena Bautista, now chief of the Maritime Industry Authority.

Her memorandum ordered a moratorium on new applications and permits for certificates of public conveyance with the exception of trucks for hire.

Undersecretary Alberto Suansing, LTFRB chairman, said the rule on no new issuances was still in force.

“By the end of this year, you can expect [about] 800 buses would no longer be on the Edsa route,” he said.

“In fact the franchises of some have already expired but are still plying the route because of their pending application for extension of validity of franchise which are currently under review.”

While Guillermo finds the attrition policy justified, she said authorities must consider the track record of the bus firms along with guidelines in determining how many units are needed based on commuter demand.

“Less buses on Edsa mean more income for bus operators,” she said, noting the need for the transport sector to survive as a business operation while complying measures of other entities such as the Land Transportation Office, the Metro Manila Development Authority, the local government units and law enforcement agencies.

According to Guillermo, her top five members are Santrans with 350 buses, Kellen (100), and Cher (100) along with Precious Grace; she has three lines of her own—Guardian Angel, Everlasting and Universal Shining Star.

She said government must get tough on operators with a record of frequent traffic violations and accidents, units 15 years old and above as well as smoke-belchers to boost the Clean Air Act particularly in the metropolis.

Guillermo is one of the three city bus operators who have invested on mobile automated device, or mPad, to compute fares, gradually getting rid of the paper tickets. With Roy Pelovello
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There should be "City Circuit" bus concept that takes the Makati Loop route but adds the Ayala MRT Station as one of its stops. So that you can go down the MRT, then ride the circuit bus. Almost door to door convenience for Makati workers!
Merong Ayala Loop pero jeep. Meron din umiikot sa Ortigas pero FX na papuntang Rizal.

Sana nga bus na lang para mas malaki ang capacity.

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Group: 1,000-bus rule on Edsa should be carried out equitably
by Rio N. Araja

She said government must get tough on operators with a record of frequent traffic violations and accidents, units 15 years old and above as well as smoke-belchers to boost the Clean Air Act particularly in the metropolis.

Guillermo is one of the three city bus operators who have invested on mobile automated device, or mPad, to compute fares, gradually getting rid of the paper tickets. With Roy Pelovello
I agree with this. But the LTFRB should implement this along with the moratorium on new franchises for buses and jeeps that plies the EDSA route. In the end, only the law abiding bus operators would remain in EDSA.
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