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Old June 2nd, 2017, 03:12 AM   #1001
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And no doubt the Sydney cruise ship bringing guests for Dark Mofo will be moored right along side...sorry you missed out a ticket Chuq...maybe you should book one of the corner suites instead?
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 05:42 AM   #1002
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maybe you should book one of the corner suites instead?
Might be a little outside my budget sadly! :P

Regarding the Baptist Church apartments in North Hobart, here is a couple of images from the DA (floor plan is typical 1st-4th floor - ground floor is all car parking).


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Old June 2nd, 2017, 06:15 AM   #1003
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Thanks for the images Chuq.

I think this works pretty well. Not sure what the planners at the HCC will think - they will probably think it is too tall - but realistically you have to have a minimum number of floors to make any project feasible and I would have thought that 4 is the absolute rock bottom given the high costs of building in Australia.

Otherwise, why bother...?
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 09:20 AM   #1004
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Hopefully this should go through council as the Trinity hill project is similar size. Loving the medium density infill that is occurring around Hobart
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Old June 7th, 2017, 02:45 AM   #1005
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Some more in-fill development proposed for Hobart's Outer CBD - an exisiting Georgian style building in Macqaurie Street, formerly a restaurant, is now proposed to be turned into a hotel with a 4 level extension at the rear of the site.

A bit like what is proposed for the old Baptist Church apartment site in Elizabeth Street, North Hobart.

The planning reference is PLN-17-332 - I would estimate the cost at around $6-$7 million or so.

Its very good for density and style wise I think it looks ok but I reckon the South Hobart mafia (Progress Association) will be up in arms about it...
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Old June 7th, 2017, 03:30 AM   #1006
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Some good developments proposed here. I hope they're not mainly 1 bedroom jobs with a few 2 bedroom apartments. There's demand in other cities for 3 bedroom units for families who want to live closer to the city and not spend a fortune on house and backyard.

The flats completed on Mt Nelson a year or 2 a go, where the pub used to be, had to be slightly redesigned as there was more demand for 2 bedroom than 1 bedroom apartments. A benefit of selling the units before completing the project.
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Old June 7th, 2017, 03:50 AM   #1007
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Same issue with the apartments propsoed for the old Elliots Crane depot in Salamanca.

Plans were advertised and the feedback was we want 2 bedroom apartments with space for 2 cars so the designer went back to the drawing board with some changes and now it looks like the development is a great success. The last remaining 2 bed is on the market for $900K...



Anything which draws people to actually considering to live closer to the CBD is a good outcome in my book.

And interestingly there is a further amendment sought to the DA for an additional 3 ground level apartments which basically brings the development back to the 30/31 originally sought but which was reduced by the removal of the penthouses after the old dickheads in Battery Point objected to the first plan.
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Old June 9th, 2017, 02:39 AM   #1008
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And interestingly there is a further amendment sought to the DA for an additional 3 ground level apartments which basically brings the development back to the 30/31 originally sought but which was reduced by the removal of the penthouses after the old dickheads in Battery Point objected to the first plan.

Came to post this but you beat me to it! Have to get up pretty early to beat O1
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Old June 9th, 2017, 03:23 AM   #1009
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Ha! Well, dont worry too much - I have been pipped to the post quite a few times in the past by you my friend.
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Old June 10th, 2017, 11:33 AM   #1010
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Old June 11th, 2017, 04:06 AM   #1011
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Proposal for $70M luxury resort at Table Cape, NW Tas

Looks like the MONA effect is spreading across the state.



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Link to Waratah Wynyard website - advertised application.
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Old June 15th, 2017, 01:54 AM   #1012
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More mispalced 'Greens' agitation correctly identified by the Clarence City Council. I reckon this is a good looking building and how cool if they can also connect it by ferry to the CBD to allow guests to travel back and forth to the city but stay on the Eastern Shore.

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Contracts have been signed and money changed hands for the hospitality training and accommodation development at Kangaroo Bay, but Clarence Mayor Doug Chipman says the “once in a generation project” is being hijacked for political ends.

In an opinion piece in today’s Mercury, Ald Chipman says that although no appeal was lodged with the Resource Management and Planning Appeal Tribunal over the council’s decision to approve the $50 million project, the 120-room hotel and TasTAFE tertiary-level hospitality training school development has become politicised.

A group of Bellerive residents have collected 1700 names on a petition outlining their concerns over the development’s proposed height and the lack of consultation over the project, and Greens member for Franklin Rosalie Woodruff has held a community meeting outlining concerns.

The petition has been submitted to Parliament but Ald Chipman says that many of those who signed it do not live at Bellerive.

“Many did not even live in Clarence and there were even a few petitioners from interstate,” he said. “It is disappointing that the planning issues associated with this wonderful development opportunity have been shamelessly exploited for political purposes by a party struggling to find a cause célèbre on the Eastern Shore with a state election looming.”

Despite opposition to the development, Ald Chipman said the council was still pushing for the first sod on the site to be turned in October.

“We have exchanged contracts and the developer has made a deposit,” he said.
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Old June 15th, 2017, 06:54 AM   #1013
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The Table Cape proposal looks interesting.

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Old June 16th, 2017, 05:08 AM   #1014
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I'm here in Hobart on cruise went to mofo festival last night awesome
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Old June 16th, 2017, 08:51 AM   #1015
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I wondered when we would hear from you Cul.

Enjoy your time in Slowbart!
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About Fragrance's Elizabeth St site. No building DA specifics (height / storeys), so I won't create a new thread. It's more fun to see who is first when the DA goes public

http://www.themercury.com.au/realest...02b5557eb9e612
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SINGAPOREAN developers the Fragrance Group have this week lodged an application with the Hobart City Council for its fourth hotel development, the Mercury understands.

It comes as the council goes back to the company for more information relating to their applications for two skyscraper hotels proposed for the CBD.

The latest development application is for the site at 234-250 Elizabeth St, which is in the section of the city often referred to as Mid Town, between the CBD and North Hobart.

Details of the project remain scant, but it is understood the building is expected to be a mixed-use hotel development.

The application lodged with the council is listed for “partial demolition, alterations and redevelopment for hotel industry, multiple dwellings, general retail and hire, food services, business and professional services and visitor accommodation”.

The property is set over four titles on 3500m2 of land with multiple existing tenancies.

The site was advertised last year by real estate company Knight Frank as having had previous approval for 67 residential apartments and was spruiked as one of the last big development sites in the city.

A statement from Fragrance Group Limited executive director Periakaruppan Aravindan said their subsidiary Fragrance Tas-Hobart (Elizabeth) Pty Ltd had bought the property at 234-250 Elizabeth St in August 2016 for just under $4 million.

The site is currently home to businesses including ABS Auto Service Centre, Fig Flowers, Shalldesign and Chrome Coffee Lounge.

Seven weeks ago, Fragrance lodged development applications with the council for a 120m 400-room hotel in Davey St and a 75m, 495-room hotel in Collins St — worth a combined $230 million.

The proposals have provoked significant public opposition in recent weeks, including from high-profile Tasmanians actor Essie Davis and award-winning author Richard Flanagan.

The applications have not yet been publicly advertised for comment because more information was required, HCC general manager Nick Heath said.

“Although land owner consent has been provided for each application to be made, both applications are currently the subject of requests for further information under section 54 of the Land Use Planning and Approvals Act,” he said.

“The further information that’s required from the applicants is to enable assessment of each proposal against the relevant provisions in the Sullivans Cove Planning Scheme 1997.

“In terms of timing, public advertising cannot commence on either application until those requests have been satisfied by the applicant.”

Fragrance’s first Hobart development, a 296-room hotel in Macquarie St, which will be operated as Ibis Styles Hobart, is expected to open next month.

The company’s most recent Hobart land purchase was a Sandy Bay Rd site which includes the University of Tasmania’s Conservatorium of Music, a warehouse, three brick buildings on Heathfield Ave, three heritage-listed conjoined cottages on Wilmot St and a communications tower.

It had been expected to sell for about $10 million.

Representatives for the Fragrance Group were contacted for comment.
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Old June 19th, 2017, 02:14 AM   #1017
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Seems an odd location for a large scale development.

Its an awkward site with a narrow frontage on Elizabeth Street incluidng a mix of constraining heritage buildings which wont be able to be demolished but obviously has a fair bit of land at the rear which drops away sharply. Realistically anything over 6 stories is going to raise the ire of the locals so it will be interesting to see what the architects have managed to fit into the site that at least is sort of close to meeting the planning rules..

But if as indicated it contains apartments that is going to be a big boost for the area and may even be the final catalyst for the much talked about heritage tram running up Elizabeth Street from the CBD to NoHo to get off the drawing board. The developers might even be tipping in a few bob towards that little project to get this over the line...

Yes Chuq - it is going to be very interesting to see which project goes live first. Although if it was me I would drop all three on the table and run them concurrently...make it very difficult and expensive for opponents to get organised and run appeals!! What do the Yanks call that tactic?

Ah, yes, 'blanket bombing'... anyway, cant be too long now beforre the first one appears into the light of day.
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Placeholder is up, no documents: PLN-17-430
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And heres the site...plenty of room for some medium density buildings in this lot.

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some photos from my trip to hobart
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