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Nottingham Train Station

Status: Proposed (Consultations)
Regen Zone: Southside
Developer: Nottingham City Council/Network Rail
Architects: BDP
Cost: £150m
Use: New Concourse, Major Improvements, Additional Platforms Retail, Residential, Office and Hotel


Links:
SSC Thread
New Nottingham Page
Planning Application
NET Website


Notes:
Nottingham Station has not changed much since it was originally built in the early 1900's. The plan is
to introduce a new concourse, pedestrianise the inside of the station, new retail, new seating areas,
refurbished platforms, a 900 space car park, a hotel, and office and residential developments on the
site of the station.

The plans will dramatically improve first impressions of Nottingham. They are much needed to deal
with Nottingham's increasing capacity. The NET Tramline will be extended over the station with a new
interchanging concourse built right over the station.


Current Status:
Network Rail formally submitted the application in April 2006. The Train Industry was unhappy with
the position of the muli-story car park over the space reserved for an additional platform, because
of this a number of design changes are needed. East Midlands Development Agency and Nottingham
Regeneration LTD have pledged £1.5 to boost the scheme. New designs are expected in November.





 
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#114 ·
From EP:

The city council is moving into the final phase of its detailed plan for Nottingham Station.

Members of the Executive Board have agreed to assign £906,000 towards the cost of more development work.

The plan is for the Edwardian station to be turned into a major transport interchange.

Besides linking tram and rail services, it would improve the station's facade and concourse.

A grant of £1.5m from the East Midlands Development Agency and Greater Nottingham Partnership has also been accepted.

The council wants work to start on site in 2010.
 
#116 ·
I have some info....

The Project Board has made significant progress to date. Key milestones have included:

  • Design development to an advanced stage to level RIBA (Royal Institute of British Architects) Stage D;
  • Planning and listed building consent applications submitted for consideration by the City Council;
  • A formal Development Services Agreement between the City Council and Network Rail to steer project development and help manage risk;
  • First stages of improvements to public realm on Carrington Street; and
  • Award of £1.544m of development funding from emda in October 2007 to take project development up to tender stage

The railway industry through both Network Rail and East Midlands Trains Ltd are actively engaged in taking the Station project forward. Immediate future work will be concentrating on building the Outline Business Case to secure funding, the production of additional design and quality management documents to comply with Network Rail’s “Guide to Railway Investment Projects” (GRIP) Stage 4 requirements, modified design to address rail operational and heritage issues arising from the current planning/listed building consent applications, and active lobbying to help secure delivery funding and commitments to rail service improvements.

The outline programme for the Station scheme is set out below. It has been designed to accommodate construction of both the NET Phase 2 viaduct over the Station and signalling improvements being developed separately by Network Rail.

  • Complete GRIP Stage 4 by end of 2007;
  • Initial design development complete and planning and listed building consent approval obtained by Spring 2008;
  • Finalise Outline Business Case in New Year 2008 and submit initial funding applications in Spring 2008;
  • Detailed design to GRIP Stage 5 complete Spring 2009;
  • Conditional funding approval in Summer 2009;
  • Contractor procured for main Station works in Autumn 2009;
  • Full funding approval and award of contract in Spring 2010; and
  • Project completion by Spring 2012
Sot dosn't look like anything will start until 2010. And it will only take 2 years.
 
#117 ·
Sounds good, if a little slow! No wonder people get so pissed off with things in this country. Anything to do with the public sector or the goverment gets so bogged down. I think the people of nottingham, local business and the council are going to have to stand firm and staunchly defend this project. Stuff this long-term can hit the buffers (so to speak!) way too easily...especially when involving the railways.

Was at the station today, they seem to have beefed security there now. Lots of guards checking tickets, and they have removed all the bins from all parts of the station for security. Only trouble is...no one is clearing the litter either...not a great first impression of the city. The station is incredible unwelcoming and cold at the moment..nothing to welcome tourists or residents back home, few directions of where to go, little advertising of whats in nottingham...it deffo needs this refurb!!
 
#118 ·
The signs for the way out in the station are terrible. There are signs for the bridge which say way out so people who want to go through the main station exit always end up walking up to the bridge then have to walk back down the steps back onto the platforms and walk further up the station. Even I've done it before when I wasn't concentrating.
The station at night is quite a depressing place to be. It has those dingy orange lights on the platforms. You don't exactly feel safe when there aren't many people around.
 
#119 ·
Some more interesting news on the station.

Part of the reason behind this big delay is that they've decided to add on the additional platform (rather than just make space for it). As I've said before they weren't happy with the location of the car park and it has been decided that they'll reduce the size of the car park and move it further south rather than building over the station. This will also reduce build cost and supposedly allow the release of land to help fund the station (not sure that I understand why?)

If you have a look at the image below this is likely to mean that the car park will front the road.



Some other interesting noted. They expect the usage of the station to increase from 6m to 12m passengers each year by 2030. The additional platform will supposedly allow the station to take double the amount of journeys.

Canopies on the platforms will be replaced with large sections of glazing to allow more light.

It has been proposed to move the taxi ranks onto the north side of the station.

As said already, work is expected to start 2010 and be operation by 2013.
 
#123 ·
I agree, this project cannot be allowed to slip again, or its going to be too late. There is a lot of potential development going on at the moment that will get taken elsewhere if this isnt done.

I think all the councils should be given a lot more ability to apply pressure on necessary parties to get projects like this off the ground. Its usually the government or major infrastructure where applications have to made to london where things get so bogged down and get pricey. We had a Parkway station planned in gloucester and it was dropped after the government faffed about with and the costs tripled.

Our government in terms of planning knows f*ck all about anything outside of london. Especially where it might really benefit another city.
 
#124 ·
Nottingham Council demands faster train services to regions principle city.

Operators of a Nottingham to Birmingham train service have promised to try to improve punctuality after complaints about long journey times.
Nottinghamshire County Council said it would continue to press for faster trains and more carriages on the Arriva Cross Country service.

The firm's spokesman David Ewart said recent delays had been caused by problems with flooding.

He said 90% of the Arriva Cross Country trains operated on time.

Council rail officer Jim Bamford said the two major cities in the Midlands deserved to be linked by a faster service.

"Nottingham is regional capital of the East Midlands and Birmingham is the regional capital of the West Midlands so the route joins two big, important places.

"The performance has not been good enough historically - it has been improving, but not enough," Mr Bamford said.

Mr Ewart said the firm was working to improve punctuality and service on the route.

The track is fitted for 125mph trains but the trains running on it only travel at 100mph, he said.

"We want a standard journey time between Nottingham and Birmingham of an hour."

Passengers have told BBC News about cancellations, overcrowding and delays since Christmas.

The former Central Trains service linking the two cities was taken over by Arriva Cross Country in November.
 
#126 ·
Yeah, I'm not sure what will happen though. A lot of the work going on right now will be behind the scenes trying to secure funding from the government and other stakeholders.

I've been told that the council are hoping to at some stage start a big promotion (website) of what's happening at the station to try and get everyone behind the project.
 
#127 ·
This could be some really good news, and would certainly justify building a new look rail terminal...

(taken from news.bbc.co.uk)
City could be on East Coast line

A new high speed East Coast mainline could pass through Nottingham, according to a new report.

The study looked at the possibility of constructing a new route from London to Leeds passing through Nottingham going up to Scotland using existing track.

The report by engineering consultants Atkins said the train route could generate £29bn to Britain's economy.

Network Rail said it would look at the options for a new route in more detail over the coming years.

The East Coast Line is one of three options for a new high speed route in the UK, which was looked at as part of work to update research carried out for the Strategic Rail Authority five years ago.

'Economic gain'

Andy Southern, managing director of Atkins' transport planning division, said: "It is clear that a high speed rail network should not only be viewed in terms of its benefit to relieving congestion on the rail network. The economic gain could also be extremely significant.

"Our modelling shows the impact would be felt by local communities as well as the business traveller choosing to go by rail rather than air. There is also potential to reduce overall carbon emissions from transport in the UK."

In a statement Network Rail said: "At some point in the future it is likely we are also going to have to build new lines... and whilst there are obvious advantages to doing this using existing high speed technology, we must not forget the wider picture.

"High speed travel is likely to be one of a multitude of ultimate solutions....we will look at this in more detail in the coming years and the Atkins report will be a useful source of information to feed into that."
 
#128 ·
Just wondering how the East Coast Mainline would connect to Nottingham? I know that it stops at both Grantham and Newark (the nearest towns on the East Coast Mainline) ... but isn't it a fairly big diversion for it to take as the East Coast Mainline is a fairly straight rail-line and diverting to Nottingham would almost bend the line 90 degrees (well almost!) ...

I think it would be more sensible to build a high speed line through sheffield (as is one of the options - ???)
 
#132 ·
In summary, there would be no stops other than the ones that are listed on the map I posted.

This would be a new line, new infrastructure, new trains, new everything. They'd probably be build alongside existing lines where possible.

The other route would continue to run as usual. The older Trains going to London probably would stop less frequently in Notts, allowing faster times, and higher frequencies for the Leicester and Derby lot. It keeps them happy in the meantime I suppose.
 
#134 ·
It wouldn't necessarily stop in Nottingham. They could choose to miss us out when they begin to explore the realistic, but this particular plan that has been drawn up includes Nottingham in the line.

Not sure about the Journey times stuff. I think theyre just trying to show how journey times will be significantly be decreased from cities further away from London. Hull's included in that list and there is no way in the world they would be on the line.
 
#135 ·
If a high speed line is built through the East Midlands Nottingham most certainly will benefit from it.

In many ways high speed lines are like motorways for trains. They interface with the existing rail network and allow trains to serve many destinations that aren't on the line itself. For example the new "Javelin" high speed trains out of St Pancras will serve most of Kent starting in 2009 by extending their routes to stations beyond the Channel Tunnel Rail Link.

Obviously the ideal situation for Nottingham would be for it to be a through station that's actually on the high speed line.
 
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