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Old April 9th, 2012, 05:29 PM   #1
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CBD - West > Rialto Towers Podium Redevelopment > u.c.

EDIT - Here's the current design for the redevelopment of the Rialto podium

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After eight years in the planning, 10 different architects and 30 different schemes, Lorenz Grollo has at last kicked off a historic redevelopment around the feet of Melbourne's iconic Rialto tower.

It's a Melbourne landmark and the $100 million revitalisation will reconnect the tower, with its substantial setback, to Collins Street just as a surge of redevelopment galvanises what was once the western end of the city's premier business boulevard.

In Mr Grollo's eyes, his patch of Collins Street is now better understood as its mid-town section, a crucial hinge between the Paris end at the east, and its Docklands extension.

"Thirty-odd years ago the corner of King and Collins streets was really at the end of the business precinct," Mr Grollo said.

"Melbourne has evolved so much, particularly with Docklands, that we see ourselves at the Rialto as being at the centre of town."

The Rialto precinct stretches over 6800 square metres, taking up half a city block, bordered by Collins and King streets and extending down to Flinders Lane.

The long-awaited reworking of the Rialto's forecourt comes as the Bank of Melbourne commits to an anchor tenancy, taking up about half the total new space in the 8000-square-metre rebuild.

That redevelopment will deliver about 6000 square metres of office space, including some cross-over into existing floors in the towers, and 2000 square metres of retail.

Designed by Woods Bagot, a new five-storey, low-rise building will wrap around the two street frontages, with the distinctive tint of the Rialto's windows carried through into a blue-hued facade at street level.

As well as the bank, restaurateur Shannon Bennett, whose celebrated Vue de Monde is on the Rialto's 55th floor, will consider opening a new upmarket outlet downstairs, as will Guy Grossi, who already runs the popular Merchant on the ground floor.

Construction has started, with gantries and hoardings lining Collins Street. The landmark tower, co-owned by St Martins Properties and the Grollo Group, was completed in 1986.

"This is our family heritage," Mr Grollo said. "That's why it's taken so long. It's a delicate process."

Mr Grollo said the classic large stone foyers of major corporate towers – of the type his father Rino and uncle Bruno famously built – were now evolving into something else.

"They need to be activated. They become a second workspace and meeting room. Those things are important for creating a vertical village."





Looks like Rialto will go to 90,000 sqm NLA
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About time they built the 'third tower'
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Old April 9th, 2012, 05:43 PM   #2
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the ****? Is this a serious proposal?
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Old April 9th, 2012, 05:46 PM   #3
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It is by F2 Architects who are the Grollo Group - Equiset architects of choice at the moment and it is dated December 2011.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 05:48 PM   #4
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Man, this would be ****-off amazing, if it's actually serious. Rialto hasn't dated a day, so I don't see why it couldn't be serious.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 09:15 PM   #5
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Was a third tower ever originally part of the plan? Seems like it would be a costly and technically challenging exercise even more so if there weren't allowances made for it during the initial construction.

The new podium is good though, could definitely see that being done.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 12:44 AM   #6
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Is the tallest seen here a proposed third tower...the tallest?
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Old April 10th, 2012, 01:30 AM   #7
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surely if it wasw a real proposal it wold be rendered into an up to date pic of the city???

the one above is almost 20 years old!
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Old April 10th, 2012, 04:33 AM   #8
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I think Mr G is pulling your leg folks.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 04:41 AM   #9
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^ http://f2architecture.com.au/experie...o-towers-2020/ ?
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Old April 10th, 2012, 04:52 AM   #10
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and if they went ahead with it the footprint would be half way over king st.

foyer revamp is a winner though. the apartment towers on the website are top notch
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Old April 10th, 2012, 05:29 AM   #11
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An April fools joke yet to be taken down?

The foyer refurb I could believe, as some have stated above, you cant even tell from the second render which is the third proposed tower for certain.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 06:25 AM   #12
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Grollo has been trying to buy up the propereties along King Street for a major redevelopment of the Rialto for years. They could easily fit a third tower behind the facades of the builldings on King Street. An earlier verison of the Rialto had a third tower, although it was a shorter tower not a taller tower.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 06:50 AM   #13
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I do remember an article recently about one of the king street properties selling but I'm unsure if it was 'grollo's control more land around rialto' or 'grollo's miss out on controlling more land around rialto'.

here is the article actually... looks like they didn't end up buying the sites.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/ba...508-1eecq.html
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Old April 10th, 2012, 07:46 AM   #14
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Check out the second pic, has 101 and 120 Collins without their 'spires' look a lot like Casseldon Place, 2 Lonsdale street haha.

Has anyone seen that render of Casseldon place with the spire? I know ive seen it somewhere.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 08:37 AM   #15
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*covers white stuff on pants* uhh so this is more "fantasy" than reality.. considering they haven't been able to buy the land... and there would without a doubt be some people who have too much time on their hands publicly having a bitch on how it shouldn't change as it has become an "icon" in its present form and that it is too imposing (the new tower) bla bla bla. I think a miracle would be required for this to go ahead :'(
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did 101 and 120 originally NOT have spires??? they look so unfinished!!!
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Im guessing these images were taken in late 1990/1991 when they were nearing completion.. and the spires may not have been installed yet or for some inexplicable reason they have been purposely removed in photoshop.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 10:19 AM   #18
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But that wouldn't explain the casino's presence.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 10:46 AM   #19
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I can explain. That's not the original sky - it's been photoshopped in and as a result the spires which would have been quite fine were deleted.
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Definitely a fake sky just thrown on the image. Casino so it's post-1996, and no Gas & Fuel Corp towers, so it's most-likely post-late-1990s or after 2000.
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