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Old December 7th, 2014, 05:49 AM   #121
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That was something mentioned by Brent Toderian, Melbourne does city centre and inner-city really well but Sydney does suburbs better than us, in fact Melbourne is one of the worst in the World when it comes to suburbs but don't be disheartened there are changes afoot. He also mentioned that many cities in the World would kill for our tram network which is far more sustainable than bus networks.
The suburban apartment wheels are now in motion though with many proposals now being considered viable that would have been laughable just 5 years ago. I am now seeing places that aren't traditionally considered inner city start to change faces (such as many activity centres around the railway stations - Croydon, Ringwood, Mitcham, etc). Even the inner city locations are now starting to have quite a bit of activity going on, such as around Lygon Street, Nicholson Street, Holden Street, High Street in Thornbury and so on. It's rapidly changing!

Now about that tram network... we need that to run like a quasi-metro service NOW, put in proper right of way, "signalise" certain tram route right of ways - so that it is less likely to stop at arbitrary traffic lights, increase the distance between stops and rapidly speed up the tram services where possible - grade separate them if needed! It has a coverage of a metro network, just does an incredibly incredibly incredibly incredibly poor job at it.
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Old December 7th, 2014, 08:45 AM   #122
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Holy shit is that ALOT of construction projects!
Yep, it's hard to keep track of all of them.
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Old December 7th, 2014, 11:34 AM   #123
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Docklands and Fishermans Bend is not that new...Plans have been made over time and it's only the Political Cycle of tearing up predecessors ideas this has not got off the ground yet...
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Old December 7th, 2014, 11:53 AM   #124
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Such Grand plans were laid afoot!

Can you read the year of the document Red?

It has a hand-written date on the 'star' of 21/9/60... 1860?

It is the first time that I have seen such a grand plan detailing a New York style extension of the Hoddle Grid. Cooool!

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Old December 8th, 2014, 01:55 AM   #125
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The suburban apartment wheels are now in motion though with many proposals now being considered viable that would have been laughable just 5 years ago. I am now seeing places that aren't traditionally considered inner city start to change faces (such as many activity centres around the railway stations - Croydon, Ringwood, Mitcham, etc). Even the inner city locations are now starting to have quite a bit of activity going on, such as around Lygon Street, Nicholson Street, Holden Street, High Street in Thornbury and so on. It's rapidly changing!

Now about that tram network... we need that to run like a quasi-metro service NOW, put in proper right of way, "signalise" certain tram route right of ways - so that it is less likely to stop at arbitrary traffic lights, increase the distance between stops and rapidly speed up the tram services where possible - grade separate them if needed! It has a coverage of a metro network, just does an incredibly incredibly incredibly incredibly poor job at it.
Well I did question the fact that we are one of the worst in the World when it comes to dense suburbia because I see large apartment buildings in many suburbs - that can also be interpreted as the inner-city but the inner-city of Melbourne is so huge it is the size of many small cities. When travelling to Cambridge via rail there is a suburb just before you get there - my eyes nearly popped out, I couldn't believe all the high-rise apartment developments that are popping up there and it is quite far out of the city - is it Doncaster ?

Then we decided to visit Hampton - epic fail. Extremely car friendly and very pedestrian unfriendly. It reminded me a lot of Auckland suburbs so we won't be going back there in a hurry. Hampton needs an enema but judging by the people I think that it is nimbyville ?
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Didn't know we had a suburb called Cambridge in Melbourne

Do you perhaps mean Camberwell?
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^ must have meant Camberwell (or Canterbury which is a few stops further on the same train line) with Glenferrie/Hawthorn as the place with all the apartments going up?
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Well I did question the fact that we are one of the worst in the World when it comes to dense suburbia because I see large apartment buildings in many suburbs - that can also be interpreted as the inner-city but the inner-city of Melbourne is so huge it is the size of many small cities. When travelling to Cambridge via rail there is a suburb just before you get there - my eyes nearly popped out, I couldn't believe all the high-rise apartment developments that are popping up there and it is quite far out of the city - is it Doncaster ?
As others have mentioned, that's probably Glenferrie which has Swinburne University located there. The railway corridor between Burnley and Camberwell is slowly starting to have a mini tower canyon which no doubt will become more pronounced as more towers go up. Though Doncaster is starting to make an impression from the train line just before Box Hill!

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Then we decided to visit Hampton - epic fail. Extremely car friendly and very pedestrian unfriendly. It reminded me a lot of Auckland suburbs so we won't be going back there in a hurry. Hampton needs an enema but judging by the people I think that it is nimbyville ?
I don't mind some suburbs being a heavily car invested type of suburb as long they pay for their own means of living in a car based lifestyle. I am more concerned about having a city that is able to provide a wide range of choice where people can choose an environment to match their own needs and expectations, which is where places like Ringwood, Box Hill, Doncaster, etc, comes into play. Places like Croydon, Werribee, Epping and et al tend to be heavily car orientated, but though even those places are starting to transform with a core that somewhat gives a middle ground while surrounded by suburbs for everyone else.
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^ must have meant Camberwell (or Canterbury which is a few stops further on the same train line) with Glenferrie/Hawthorn as the place with all the apartments going up?
I had a look at our pics and it was Canterbury


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I don't mind some suburbs being a heavily car invested type of suburb as long they pay for their own means of living in a car based lifestyle. I am more concerned about having a city that is able to provide a wide range of choice where people can choose an environment to match their own needs and expectations, which is where places like Ringwood, Box Hill, Doncaster, etc, comes into play. Places like Croydon, Werribee, Epping and et al tend to be heavily car orientated, but though even those places are starting to transform with a core that somewhat gives a middle ground while surrounded by suburbs for everyone else.
By all means, it is very rare that we go to the outlying suburbs, one doesn't need to when you live in the city but we are still exploring. I just think that it can't be that difficult to provide the town centre with a few pedestrian crossings, especially on busy roads such as in Hampton.
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List update

A bit of movement here and there in terms of status and I corrected some of the heights to 'approximate' where they aren't properly known yet.

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Old February 10th, 2015, 03:07 PM   #132
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The suburban apartment wheels are now in motion though with many proposals now being considered viable that would have been laughable just 5 years ago. I am now seeing places that aren't traditionally considered inner city start to change faces (such as many activity centres around the railway stations - Croydon, Ringwood, Mitcham, etc). Even the inner city locations are now starting to have quite a bit of activity going on, such as around Lygon Street, Nicholson Street, Holden Street, High Street in Thornbury and so on. It's rapidly changing!

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I have never seen a post that summarises Yarra Trams so well.

I love our tram network but for crying out loud it's quicker to walk to most places around the city than take one. If we gave trams right-of-way or somehow prioritised tram traffic it would be ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT.
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Why is Aus108 included in "under assessment" as well as "approved"? It looks smaller too in the second one.

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Old April 4th, 2017, 03:19 AM   #135
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Hey Ridz
Im pretty sure Riverina Footscray towers are well UC now.
2 Clarendon Street Hotel is also UC.
Collins House has piling rigs onsite UC.
72-82 Collins 190m is at Demo.Piling starts next week
130 Lonsdale Office(not on your list)i think it's 144m is at Demo
Collins Arch is UC
Southbank Place is UC
Capital Grand is UC
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Thanks dean, couple I missed.

130 lonsdale is there(118-148 lonsdale), just haven't changed the address to reflect the two towers, not sure what the new height is now either.

Think still excavating for collins arch and capitol grand??
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Old April 4th, 2017, 05:47 AM   #137
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No worries.

update 130 Lonsdale is 148m

As for Collins Arch and CG, Well shoring and piling started on those some time ago so i'd say they're both UC. They have deep basements so it might be a while before we see lift cores.

I thought i had seen Riverina underway - thanks to Glenn
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