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Old January 21st, 2010, 02:20 AM   #1
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Education news and developments

If this is true, it will sure be one of the most talked about and controversial stories of the year in Ethiopia.



January 20, 2010 -- The Ministry of Education has approved a new proposal that adds an extra year at university for undergraduate students, reports Capital.

Sources told Capital that the new system will be implemented in all governmental higher education centres from the start of the next Ethiopian fiscal year in July.

The new higher education structure has been implemented as a pilot project in the School of Engineering at Adama University (AU) since October 2008. According to the new system, engineering students will learn general engineering for three years and they will then specialise in different engineering fields for another two years.

According to sources AU has proposed the new transformation - which is based on best practices mostly from Europe - for higher education to keep up to international standards. Professor Dr. Herbert Eichele, president of AU, told Capital that in the next academic year, AU will introduce the new system in its other departments.

According to sources, the ministry accepted the new proposal for nationwide implementation after it evaluated the performance of the AU model.

Adama University (AU) sure has the best academic website in Ethiopia, IMO.
http://www.adama-university.net/
http://www.ezega.com/News/NewsDetail...ds&NewsID=1969
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Old January 21st, 2010, 08:31 AM   #2
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I hope they improve the quality of the education as well. It's pointless to increase the years if the quality doesn't improve.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 10:12 AM   #3
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I hope they improve the quality of the education as well. It's pointless to increase the years if the quality doesn't improve.
Exactly, I wonder if they have the resources to handle all these students for another year and at the same time improve the quality. I guess time will tell.
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Old February 1st, 2010, 09:39 AM   #4
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According to the new system, engineering students will learn general engineering for three years and they will then specialise in different engineering fields for another two years.

According to sources AU has proposed the new transformation - which is based on best practices mostly from Europe

This is hopeless - I don't think they know what they are doing. I have seen the course structure of AAU engineering which is a shame. To start with: They have to consider combining courses - example: Electrical & electronics, computer systems engineering & electronics, Computer systems & Electrical, Physics & electronics, Physics and Electrical, Mathematics & computer science, Communications & electronics Engineering, Communications & Electrical engineering .....so on ....i.e. a kind of double degree to be finished in five years so that students will have wide opportunity.

I have also seen AAU studentĺs research work (Masters & PhD). Boy, I was so embarrassed with some of the thesis - looks and feels like reading a high school report. Poor in concept wise and poor in English......

I say, stick with five years with two dgree option - Best!
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Old February 1st, 2010, 10:08 AM   #5
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Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering - AAU

Study Programs

At present, the Department is running a B.Sc. degree program in two regular and continuing education with student population of about 1000. It is also running MSC programs in five different specializations:

Communication Engineering
Electrical Power Engineering
Computer Engineering
Control Engineering and
Microelectronics Engineering

In addition to the M.Sc. programs, two Ph.D. programs are launched, one in Communication Engineering and the other in Computer Engineering.

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That was taken from the AAU site.


I don't get it.......they should have two types of Master programs:

1) Mater by Research - Thesis (No classes)
2) Master by Course - with class attendance as a requirement

PHd must be only by Thesis (no classes)

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Communication Engineering
Electrical Power Engineering
Computer Engineering
Control Engineering and
Microelectronics Engineering
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Give me a break will you? can't and shouldn't restrict students while they are doing research - it should be wide open - not with a limited fancy useless topics or areas - It should rather, be local industry & country oriented i.e. what's the need of the country? (Let the students choose what to research - leave the fancy topics for under grads!! - you can't do microelectronics research with a screw driver - admit the reality, we are not there yet!!)

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Old February 1st, 2010, 10:24 AM   #6
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Hello all of you, i am from cameroon.I do have money and i want to study abroad but I dont want to go and waste all my money in europe or USA, better save it for investment.it seems ethiopia AAU is an interesting place to study computer engineering; plus your gorgeous women.Just seeking for adventure.Can someone tell me about the costs and opening dates for ethiopian universties,study environment and facilities?
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 09:15 PM   #7
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Wink The Ethiopian Curriculum

Increasing the number of years in the undergraduate education is meaningless except there is no quality education. for a very high quality education, a 3 year curriculum would mostly be sufficient.

for Ahadu, the addis ababa university is the best university in the country/region. it is one of the best universities in the continent. and it is well known world wide. your critics about the university in general is inappropriate. the department of electrical and computer engineering is very nice, and the m.sc.&p.hd. graduates wrote reports which are every time very nice. their reports can never be crtiticized like that. they are really outstanding. and the department mixes that you talked about are quite unusual. the electrical engineering department at AAU has different fields that are very highly developed after several years of activity. it can not be badmouthed by such dumb head like you.
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Old February 3rd, 2010, 07:56 AM   #8
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it can not be badmouthed by such dumb head like you.
Dear bww,
Thanks for that - but not sure what dumb head means?
You don't need to be emotional to pass your message/s. Try, rather, to justify your reasons objectively.

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addis ababa university is the best university in the country/region.
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Best in what way?
I have seen the Electrical and Computer Engineering curriculum of AAU (BTW: better to call it a well organized school) - heart-breaking! Units/subjects from First to Final year are all over the place (Content wise) and irrelevant to the current level of technology. The curriculum lacks a strong delivery and assessment plans. Poor in gathering evidence of students' performance - be it in theory or practical activities.

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...and the department mixes that you talked about are quite unusual .
Yes - you are right. It may sound quiet "unusual" but very normal and efficient. Let me give you a quick run-down:

Take Electronics Engineering & Physics. The two go hand in hand (both may point equally to same basic & to same complex : eg. Photonics - LASER, Fibre Optics, material science - Fabrication & micromachining etc. etc.) - always. Take any Physics and any Electronics book. Put them side by side and compare their content - technically they are identical. So, the point is, you can have a Physics teacher as well as an electronics engineer if you combine the two effectively & efficiently - Two birds in one stone so to speak! Best for a country like Ethiopia.

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...computer engineering is very nice, and the m.sc.&p.hd. graduates wrote reports which are every time very nice .
That's exactly what I am trying to say - they are capable of writing "a report" not a "Research Thesis". There is a huge difference between a Report and a Thesis.


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...their reports can never be crtiticized like that. they are really outstanding.
I may be a bit harsh. It is painful, however, to let go and speak the truth. The good NEWS is that there is a very simple solutions to fix the problem. For, example, AAU can arrange a working relationship with well known Universities around the world. PhD and Masters Thesis may be shipped to those universities for a peer review:

1) Review on Thesis structure/ organization from A-to-Z. Does the Thesis flow smoothly?

2) Review on Concept - Thesis originality

3) Review on both 1 and 2 combined

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Old February 3rd, 2010, 02:04 PM   #9
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well very interesting topic.i live in scandinavia .the system here resembels the new ethiopian system where students study 5 years to get a degree.i dont know what kind of degree you get at AAU,but here you get a master degree once you finsh your 5th year.its organized in such a way that the first 3 years is general that is if it is Eng. you take general Eng. and the last 2 years is special years, that means you get to choose one specialty and do a final research and get Msc.
in my opinion it is a waste of time and resources to study 5 years and get Bs.
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Old February 3rd, 2010, 07:50 PM   #10
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It may be a waste of time but not in case of resources. Sweden values education very highly and as a result Sweden maintains to be one of the worlds most successful nations when it comes to all kind of things. Can you actually imagine that we get paid to study?

I assume you live in Sweden since most Habeshas in Scandinavia lives there. That would make us to 3 Ethiopians on this forum living in Sweden
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Old February 3rd, 2010, 10:01 PM   #11
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....i dont know what kind of degree you get at AAU,but here you get a master degree once you finsh your 5th year.
Vildana,
Thanks for you inputs.

Yes, it is very normal to award a student with a masters degree after 5 years of study - That means, Masters by Course Work. However, a student should be allowed to do his/her masters by research too i.e. a research work/study with and on a specific topic. This is effective for R&D (Research and Development) oriented industries. The length of a research based study may depends on the complexity of the topic. I do not think there exists such flexibility at AAU!

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........its organized in such a way that the first 3 years is general that is if it is Eng. you take general Eng. and the last 2 years is special years, that means you get to choose one specialty and do a final research and get Msc....

Not clear to me what a general engineering means? Doesn't mean that student of Electrical/Electronics Eng, for example, need to do some subjects from Mechanical / Civil Engineering? In Ethiopia, I have seen an electrical or electronics engineering students doing "Geometry"/ or give more emphasis for "Algebra" rather than "Calculus" or spend and waste time unnecessarily trying to figure out the Newtonian Physics while remain clueless in Quantum Mechanics.... God knows why?


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Old February 5th, 2010, 01:29 PM   #12
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I live in Sweden and work in Denmark(commute everyday to Denmark)

By the way ,am talking about the Danish education system.What i mean by general Eng. Basic Eng. subjects.

Tarrex . where in Sweden do you live?
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Old February 5th, 2010, 07:29 PM   #13
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The Danish Education system is basically the same as the Swedish one.

I was right then , well I live in Stockholm and Yonii too I think. I assume you live in Malm÷.
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Old February 6th, 2010, 04:04 PM   #14
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16 km outside of malm°,a town called svedala.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 12:16 AM   #15
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AFRICA CAPACITY BUILDING INSTITUTE to be built in Ethiopia

AFRICA CAPACITY BUILDING INSTITUTE to be built in Ethiopia

February 23, 2010 - Education Minister Demeke Mekonnen and UNESCO Director General, Irina Bokova, laid foundation stone for the construction of International Institute for Capacity Building in Africa, reports ENA.

Demeke on the occasion said the institute will be used to implement various programs including capacity building for teachers in African countries.

Addis Ababa's being seat for the African Union and various diplomats is the other factor to construct the institute in Ethiopia.

He said the Ethiopian government has provided plots for construction of the institute, which will have four floors.


http://www.ezega.com/News/NewsDetail...ds&NewsID=2100


.... funny thing is there is a huge land shortage in Addis, I can't see how a young person with a college degree ( and not a with the TPLF gang) could afford to own his/her own property in Addis.
I was talking with my cousin who lives in Addis and with his Masters degree and two jobs he hasn't been able to own his own place for his new family. After talking to him we basically concluded that you either have to be with the TPLF gang, or you have to leave the country to be able to raise a family and have a decent house. So, ... depressing but what can you do? at least they have free education and near free health care system.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:08 AM   #16
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AFRICA CAPACITY BUILDING INSTITUTE to be built in Ethiopia

February 23, 2010 - Education Minister Demeke Mekonnen and UNESCO Director General, Irina Bokova, laid foundation stone for the construction of International Institute for Capacity Building in Africa, reports ENA.

Demeke on the occasion said the institute will be used to implement various programs including capacity building for teachers in African countries.

Addis Ababa's being seat for the African Union and various diplomats is the other factor to construct the institute in Ethiopia.

He said the Ethiopian government has provided plots for construction of the institute, which will have four floors.


http://www.ezega.com/News/NewsDetail...ds&NewsID=2100


.... funny thing is there is a huge land shortage in Addis, I can't see how a young person with a college degree ( and not a with the TPLF gang) could afford to own his/her own property in Addis.
I was talking with my cousin who lives in Addis and with his Masters degree and two jobs he hasn't been able to own his own place for his new family. After talking to him we basically concluded that you either have to be with the TPLF gang, or you have to leave the country to be able to raise a family and have a decent house. So, ... depressing but what can you do? at least they have free education and near free health care system.
point noted, but I will not build a house in Adisaba, Its way to congested for my test. If they build the Adisaba-Nazret highway, places like Debre Zeit could become more and more attractive to me.
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.... funny thing is there is a huge land shortage in Addis, I can't see how a young person with a college degree ( and not a with the TPLF gang) could afford to own his/her own property in Addis.
First of, there is no a land shortage in Addis - it is a land management problem.

TPLF gang
What the hell is that mean? I personally know so many people (through their relatives here in the West) who just moved in to new Condos. These people have nothing to do with TPLF / EPRDF except being strong suporter of DURGE's YeEmama Ethiopia slogan. I was surprised & utterly shocked to hear them (their relatives here) complaining about the quality of the condos - comparing it (mind you they paid almost zero with the Western standard) with their previous mud-house. This to me is clearly a sicknes of some sort - a retarded mentality!!

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.... I was talking with my cousin who lives in Addis and with his Masters degree and two jobs he hasn't been able to own his own place for his new family..

To begin with, He should be thankful and greatful for the Free Education. He should be Thankful for having two jobs no matter how. Before complaing about your shoes, think about those with no legs!!

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.... After talking to him we basically concluded that you either have to be with the TPLF gang, or you have to leave the country to be able to raise a family and have a decent house....

Yea....what an advise!
Get a free education & leave your country. Who gives a shit to the poor Ethiopian Tax Payers??

My wish for you, to me and to all ungreatful Ethiopians is to give us a government with Red Terror in its heart -- but TPLF/EPRDF.....No....No....We Do Not Deserve it!! If you know What I mean!
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Old February 24th, 2010, 12:36 PM   #18
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point noted, but I will not build a house in Adisaba, Its way to congested for my test. If they build the Adisaba-Nazret highway, places like Debre Zeit could become more and more attractive to me.
You are right about the congestion factor in the city, but unless you have your own car or the public transportation system improves, getting to work/school in the morning will be a nightmare. I remember when I was Addis and trying to go to school which isn't more than 2 Km, it would take at least 30 minute before you can get a taxi in the morning, I still remember the gefea ግፍያ trying to get in the taxi.
I am quite sure in the future the Addis-debezeyet road will be the best way to be able to have a single family house. The other side of the city should develop as well, like the Addis-Feche road, it is a highland, but it might be closer to live in the northern outskirts of the Addis and commute to a school or office in the areas such as Shiro-meda, Ferensay legatsion, sedest kilo, ...etc actually these areas I mentioned here inside the city are still affordable comparing it to the other parts that have skyrocketed in price, so there is some good news there.
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i agree with Ahadu.as i see it it is a matter of planning ,it is an artificial shortage created by mismanagment.
as of affordability, i think one has to drive a bit out of addis to afford a decent size land.
areas around Tatek military camp ,Sebeta the going rate is 100-500 birr per meter square. in some areas less. if the land is devoloped have like water ,sewage and electricity it costs a bit more other wise is very cheap.
the down side is transportation service in addis is very poor, only people with car can live in this areas.that is way addis is so congested population density up to thousends per. sq. in some areas.
some areas around top view a land of 1000 sq.meter costs up to 4 million birr.
the top rich live in this area surrounded by shanty.
the smart thing to do if one wants to build a house is to buy a land around sebeta ,tatek,debre zeit,other wise after a couple of years this ares wil be unaffordable even to diasporas.

as of "TPLF mafias" guys be reasonable this things have nothing to do with tplf. if you want a land you can get a land .am not saying there is no corruption but things are much better now.it is just a matter of setting goal and go for it.i have been to land kifle ketema offices was very impressed with the service and the transparency .one should go there and see it before getting carried away by alubalta.
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Free education? Education in Ethiopia is still free?
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