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Old February 5th, 2005, 01:34 PM   #21
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really great project, and this kind of bridge is really becaming more commum (bridge/tunnel).

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Is the channel wide enough for the amount of sea traffic.
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Is the channel wide enough for the amount of sea traffic.
Plans are indicative only. Subject to change. The Pearl River Delta is one of (if the busiest) seaway in the world, and any plan to build such a project must do so with the least possible impact on shipping.

And the channel is wide enough, but remember that 12 kilometres or so is tunnel.
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China going ahead with huge bridge to HK, Macau

BEIJING, March 8 (Reuters) - China has given the green light to link Hong Kong to Macau and the mainland with a multi-billion-dollar road bridge, the China Daily said on Tuesday.

Promoters of the Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau Bridge have proposed an enormous structure stretching 29 km (18 miles).

The newspaper said it would directly connect Hong Kong and Macau to booming ports in southern China's Pearl River Delta region. Private investment would be allowed to have a "primary role" in funding the 31.5 billion yuan ($3.8 billion) project.

"We are going to make a big breakthrough in infrastructure cooperation between Hong Kong and the mainland," Ma Kai, head of the National Development and Reform Commission, was quoted as saying during the ongoing session of China's parliament.

Ma said government leaders had approved the bridge during talks with Tung Chee-hwa, Hong Kong's chief executive rumoured to be ready to quit his post.

Authorities in Hong Kong, Macau and the southern Chinese city Guangdong had all agreed to let the private sector put up much of the funding for the over-water highway, Sarah Liao, secretary for the Environment, Transport and Works of Hong Kong, was quoted as saying.

The bridge would halve the current 60 km (37 mile) trip from Hong Kong to Macau or the major southern port of Zhuhai to make travel possible in less than half an hour, the newspaper said.

Ma said a feasibilty report on the bridge had been completed but did not specify when construction would begin. Since China and Hong Kong signed a Closer Economic Partnership Agreement, Hong Kong's exports to the mainland have grown, fueled by reduced tariffs and easier transport.

"The bridge will promote the socio-economic development of Pearl River West (region), promote the development of tourism industries and perfect the regional transport network," Liao was quoted as saying. ($1=8.276 yuan).
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wow! I think the design is awesome! VERY HUGE!
like the under water tunnel which will allow big ships to easily pass through!
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Macau drives on the left, Zhuhai on the right...
Most cars can't pass thru the border because they don't have the licence for the car.

In Hong Kong, I can see some cars with 2 licences (mainland and hk). They should be able to go across the border. For Macau, I don't know if we need a third one XDDD.

Well, at least for now, we can visit Macau just on our HK Identity card and don't need anything else, its just an hour comfortable ferry ride, very convenient.
For macau, they do the exact same thing as Hong Kong. if u wanna drive in mainland china, u hv to apply for a Chinese licences.
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and remember when HK start building the airport, ppl said is not going to be completed by 2010, but guest wt, it opens in 1998....
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Wu's bridge not too far as Ho, Sun Hung Kai sign up
Cannix Yau, Hong Kong Standard
March 21, 2005

Hopewell Holdings' Gordon Wu, a foremost advocate of a mega-bridge linking Hong Kong, Zhuhai and Macau, will team up with Sun Hung Kai Properties and casino tycoon Stanley Ho's Shun Tak Holdings to bid for the HK$30 billion project when an open tender is called in a few months' time, a source close to the deal said.

The three conglomerates will form a joint venture with a state-owned company under the Transport Bureau of Guangdong Province to bid for the project with financing support from the Bank of China, the source said.

The amount of financing is still unknown.

Mainland authorities have ann-ounced the project's feasibility study, which began early last year, is finished and its construction plan will be finalized after a final meeting in April by the three governments.

After the final plan is approved by the State Council, the project is expected to be opened for bids in a few months.

Secretary for the Environment, Transport and Works Sarah Liao said the private sector will play a primary role in constructing the bridge under a build-operate-transfer plan, which will cost about 31.5 billion yuan (HK$29.7 billion).

According to Minister of National Development and Reform Commission Ma Kai, Hong Kong, Macau and Guangdong have entered into a consensus allowing the private sector to fund the giant project.

San Shek Wan, a remote village on the relatively unspoilt northwest coast of Lantau, adjacent to Hong Kong International Airport, will be the starting point for the bridge which will be built in a single ``Y'' shape, with each forked end joining Macau and Zhuhai.

The super bridge is expected to handle about 20,000 vehicles a day and will be the fifth border crossing between the mainland and the SAR.

About 12 kilometers of the bridge will be in Hong Kong waters. This section will connect to the 30-kilometer portion in mainland waters across the mouth of the Pearl River from Macau and Zhuhai.

It will shorten the distance from Hong Kong to Macau and Zhuhai to 30 kilometers, and reduce the journey time to well within half an hour. The current distance from Hong Kong to Macau and Zhuhai is about 60 kilometers.

The project is expected to be completed by 2009.

Wu, who launched a concerted campaign two years ago to develop the bridge, has expressed confidence he will win the bid.

Hopewell's plans show a combined tunnel and bridge similar to the Chesapeake Bay bridge in the United States or the Tokyo Bay bridge in Japan. The proposed bridge is not without its critics, however, who claim that it will be a blight on Lantau where traffic will substantially worsen the already heavy air pollution in Tung Chung and other areas along the island's northern shore.

Other critics question the economics of building such an expensive piece of infrastructure in the relatively lightly populated western region of the Pearl River Delta.

They fear it will become another expensive white elephant in a region that already enjoys modern but greatly under-utilized transport infrastructure.

The parties most likely to profit from the project are the developers, the critics say.
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Private sector eyed for delta bridge
Hong Kong, Macau and Guangdong could set up a corporation to solicit tenders for building the link to Zhuhai

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21 March 2005
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Hong Kong, Macau and Guangdong are likely to form a corporation to solicit tenders from the private sector to build the proposed bridge linking Zhuhai and the two special administrative regions.

A Hong Kong government source said a public-private partnership model would probably be adopted for the construction and operation of the proposed bridge. "One possibility is for the three governments to form a corporation which then solicits for a bid from the private sector to build the project," the source said.

The source said the government was considering building as few of the bridge's foundations as possible close to the Hong Kong coast to minimise any adverse impact on the Chinese white dolphins and their natural habitat.

The China Daily reported early this month that a feasibility report had been completed for the project, which is estimated to cost US$3.8 billion. No date was given for when construction of the link would begin.

The newspaper quoted Secretary for the Environment, Transport and Works Sarah Liao Sau-tung as saying that the private sector would fund the bridge.

Meanwhile, former Zhuhai party secretary Liang Guangda said he hoped construction of the cross-delta bridge could start next year.

"I'm confident that the bridge would be completed by 2008, a year before the 10th anniversary of the resumption of Macau's sovereignty by the motherland," he told the South China Morning Post.

Mr Liang spearheaded the Lingdingyang bridge proposal, which envisaged linking Zhuhai and Tuen Mun, from 1988 until the project was shelved in 1997.

"I have been longing for the completion of the bridge for 19 years," he said.

Mr Liang said the cross-delta bridge should land at Hengqin island , an outlying Zhuhai island west of Macau.

He said Hengqin was linked with several national highway networks, including the coastal highway from Heilongjiang to Hainan and the Taiyuan-Macau superhighway.

Zhuhai and Guangdong officials have said also that they would prefer the bridge to extend to Hengqin Island.

But the Hong Kong government, which has proposed starting the bridge at Sha Lo Wan or San Shek Wan in Lantau, favours a bridge landing at the Gongbei crossing between Zhuhai and Macau.

"If the bridge lands at Gongbei, it would bring a huge flow of people and traffic to Gongbei which is already the country's second busiest land crossing," Mr Liang said.

Mr Liang, also a Guangdong deputy to the National People's Congress, said drivers would only have to travel a few extra kilometres from Hengqin to cities north of Zhuhai, compared with a landing at Gongbei. But he said he would support whatever landing point was chosen by experts responsible for a feasibility study on the cross-delta bridge, commissioned by a nine-member taskforce of representatives from Guangdong, Hong Kong and Macau.
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Macau drives on the left, Zhuhai on the right...
Most cars can't pass thru the border because they don't have the licence for the car.

In Hong Kong, I can see some cars with 2 licences (mainland and hk). They should be able to go across the border. For Macau, I don't know if we need a third one XDDD.

Well, at least for now, we can visit Macau just on our HK Identity card and don't need anything else, its just an hour comfortable ferry ride, very convenient.
Wait a minute, Macau drives on the left (like in China, continental Europe, and North America) while Zhuhai drives on the right (like in HK, Britain, Japan)? That's really weird and messed up. I always thought Zhuhai would drive the same way China would seeing how is FULLY is part of the PRC.
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Landing sites agreed for cross-delta bridge link
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Hong Kong and mainland officials and experts have agreed on the landing sites for the proposed Pearl River Delta bridge linking Hong Kong, Macau and Zhuhai - Gongbei in Zhuhai and Perola in Macau.

Their recommendation, which will now be forwarded to the State Council for approval, is sure to please the Hong Kong side. It had advocated the Gongbei-Perola routes, while the Zhuhai and Guangdong authorities wanted landfalls on Hengqin Island in Zhuhai and at Pac On in Macau.

Hong Kong Secretary for the Environment, Transport and Works Sarah Liao Sau-tung said the decision was the consensus view of the 100-strong group, which met for two days behind closed doors in Zhuhai.

The group comprised officials and experts from Hong Kong, Beijing, Guangdong and Macau.

The recommended single Y-shaped bridge-tunnel link would run from Hong Kong to the mainland coast near the Gongbei land crossing, where it would divide to provide separate access to Zhuhai and Macau.

The proposed alignment would lower construction costs and shorten construction time despite the drawback of heavy congestion at Gongbei checkpoint, which has limited space for expansion.

The 28km cross-delta link, estimated to cost US$3.8 billion, could be opened to traffic by 2010 and would make Zhuhai and Macau a 30-minute drive from Hong Kong.

"Experts have recommended the northern bridge-cum-tunnel alignment proposal," Dr Liao said. "The eastern landing point [in Hong Kong] is at San Shek Wan on Lantau. The western landing points will be at Gongbei in Zhuhai and Perola in Macau. This recommendation will need the approval from the State Council."

Guangdong Development and Reform Commission director-general Chen Shanru said construction on the link could start as early as this year.

The group would discuss funding issues once the recommendation is approved.

The Hong Kong government has said that a public-private partnership model may be adopted in funding the construction and operation of the cross-delta link.
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Delta link bidding expected in months
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International bidding for the US$3.8 billion Pearl River Delta bridge linking Hong Kong, Macau and Zhuhai is expected within months under a tight planning schedule that aims for building to start before the end of the year.

The bridge could be completed by 2010, Secretary for the Environment, Transport and Works Sarah Liao Sau-tung said yesterday. "The central government wants to speed up the realisation of the proposed bridge. Ideally, construction will start at the end of this year or early next year."

The project would be put out to international tender after approval by the central government, Ms Liao said.

The Hong Kong government has said that a public-private partnership model may be adopted to fund the project.

Hopewell Highway Infrastructure (HHI), spun-off on the mainboard from construction and toll-road group Hopewell Holdings in 2003, is a strong proponent and front-runner for the project.

With $2 billion on hand, HHI managing director Thomas Jefferson Wu said last month the firm had sufficient resources to build the second phase of the Western Delta project, widening the Guangzhou-Shenzhen superhighway and possibly investing in the Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau bridge project.

Cheung Kong Infrastructure had said in 2003 it was interested in taking a stake in the bridge project. That year, HHI chairman Sir Gordon Wu Ying-sheung said the firm would want to take a 50 per cent stake in the project - a personal brainchild - by contributing $2.5 billion. This would amount to 50 per cent of the equity funding, assuming 66 per cent of the estimated $15 billion construction cost would be raised through bank loans.

The 28km bridge would connect with HHI's toll roads - the 122.8km Guangzhou-Shenzhen Superhighway, the 38km Guangzhou east-southwest ring road and the proposed 56.7km Guangzhou-Zhuhai superhighway - in a loop network at the heart of the Pearl River Delta.

A 100-member group, comprising officials and experts from Hong Kong, Beijing, Guangdong and Macau, agreed at the weekend on the landing sites - San Shek Wan on Lantau, Perola in Macau and Gongbei in Zhuhai.

The bridge would cut travel between Hong Kong and Macau to about 30 minutes.
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A bridge 22 miles too far for Hong Kong green campaign
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Published: May 6 2005 03:00

China and Hong Kong are pressing ahead with an ambitious plan to build one of the world's longest bridges, but the Rmb30bn (£1.9bn) project, which aims to stimulate economic development in the Pearl River delta, southern China's manufacturing hub, is drawing criticism from environmentalists.

Last month officials from the former British colony and mainland China agreed the design for a six-lane, 22 mile bridge connecting Hong Kong on the eastern side of the Pearl River with Macao and Zhuhai in the west.

Construction could start this year.

They hope the Y-shaped bridge, which is expected to shorten travel time between Zhuhai and Hong Kong from four hours to 20 minutes and be completed by 2010, will relieve pressure in the crowded eastern delta and attract investment to the undeveloped western side.

After Beijing opened the Pearl River delta to foreign investment in 1978, Hong Kong investors built factories in the east because it was easily accessible by car or train.

By comparison, visitors from Hong Kong to the western delta faced either a long car journey to Humen and the only other bridge across the delta or a boat ride.

As a result, Guangzhou, the biggest city in the eastern Pearl River delta, recorded a gross domestic product of Rmb300bn in 2002, compared with Rmb118bn in the same year in Foshan, the biggest city in the west.

This year the gap between the two cities' performance is likely to have widened even further.

But the eastern cities that have absorbed the most investment are brushing up against the limits of their growth, with shortages of labour, water, land and power driving up costs in Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Dongguan.

"Hong Kong people have invested so much in the east coast . . . land is becoming more expensive," says Sarah Liao, Hong Kong's secretary for the environment, transport and works.

"They are really looking for more inner areas for further development."

The bridge's proponents say better transport links to the western delta would not only narrow the gap in economic development but also reinforce Hong Kong's role as a transport and logistics hub. Michael Enright, a professor at the University of Hong Kong and a leading scholar on the Pearl River delta, estimates that the bridge could bring at least HK$100bn ($12.8bn) a year in economic benefits to the region, equivalent to about 5 per cent of its GDP.

But others argue that environmental considerations must be taken into account. The delta is home to a population of rare pink dolphins, which could be disturbed by the bridge's construction.

One of Hong Kong's few remaining populations of horseshoe crabs lives in Tung Chung Bay, near the spot where the bridge would connect with a road on the territory's Lantau Island.

Without tight controls, vehicle traffic across the bridge and the new factories built in the western delta would also introduce additional sources of air pollution to a region already choking on the fumes from factories in the east. Environmental protection regulations are not well enforced in mainland China.

Bill Barron, associate professor at the University of Hong Kong's centre of urban planning and environmental management, says that by doubling the land easily accessible to Hong Kong, the bridge is likely to increase air and water pollution.

"We're saying it's a terrible idea because we don't have the room to absorb that many more people and industries, unless the whole industrial base gets a lot cleaner, and we just don't see that [happening]."

Ms Liao says the government is conducting its own environmental survey and insists it has proved its commitment to protecting the pink dolphins on other projects such as the building of Hong Kong's airport, which opened in 1997.

Hong Kong officials hope to restrict the class of vehicles that can use the bridge to those that meet reduced emission standards or use clean fuels.

But critics question the government's insistence on using private backing for the bridge.

They say the government is under the influence of powerful businessmen and has insisted on private finance in spite of evidence that the only way investors could make the bridge pay is by loosening restrictions on traffic across the Hong Kong-China border.

Other concerns remain. Setting a toll at an affordable level for the trucks that will constitute the bulk of cross-border traffic will prove challenging as the other boundary crossings are free.

But perhaps the trickiest remains the fact that Hong Kong people drive on the left, while mainland Chinese residents drive on the right.
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Old May 8th, 2005, 02:15 AM   #37
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China and Hong Kong are pressing ahead with an ambitious plan to build one of the world's longest bridges...
There's nothing "ambitious" about a 21 mile causeway with a tunnel or small cable-stayed span attached to it. This monstrosity needs to be dropped now!
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Old May 9th, 2005, 12:47 AM   #38
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wow, i really like that proyect
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Old May 9th, 2005, 08:37 AM   #39
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But perhaps the trickiest remains the fact that Hong Kong people drive on the left, while mainland Chinese residents drive on the right.

It should be the other way around
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There's nothing "ambitious" about a 21 mile causeway with a tunnel or small cable-stayed span attached to it. This monstrosity needs to be dropped now!
Yes, indeed, unless they build something like the gilbraltar super-bridge
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