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Old January 16th, 2014, 08:26 PM   #1
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GDP - World's Metro Areas

Since 2008 I've been organizing GDP tables for American and Brazilian metro areas as data are easy to obtain and sensible definitions are possible to be established. Some are already familiar with this data as I've posted in economic threads. However, I decided to open a thread to allow debates on this interesting matter.

Anyway, here the last edition of the ranking, with all the US and Brazilian metro areas over 500,000 inh. Data coming from BEA (US) and IBGE (Brazil). As definitions I used CSA for the US and for Brazilians they might be found here.

2011

Country -- GDP 2011 (US$) -- Pop. 2011

USA --- 15.075.675.000.000 --- 311.591.917
Brazil --- 2.492.907.000.000 --- 192.376.496



MAs --------------------- GDP 2011 (US$) -- Pop. 2011

1. New York, NY-NJ-CT-PA -- 1.455.816.000.000 -- 22.025.294

2. Los Angeles, CA -- 897.207.000.000 -- 18.081.569

3. San Francisco, CA -- 575.182.000.000 -- 7.563.460

4. Chicago, IL-IN-WI -- 554.511.000.000 -- 9.729.825


5. São Paulo, SP -- 519.328.000.000 -- 22.611.857

6. Washington, DC-MD-VA-WV -- 438.337.000.000 -- 5.834.013

7. Houston, TX -- 419.696.000.000 -- 6.086.538

8. Dallas, TX -- 394.902.000.000 -- 6.647.967

9. Boston, MA-NH -- 378.316.000.000 -- 5.794.035

10. Philadelphia, PA-NJ-DE-MD -- 373.249.000.000 -- 6.562.287

11. Atlanta, GA -- 289.994.000.000 -- 5.542.257

12. Seattle, WA -- 264.209.000.000 -- 4.129.359

13. Miami, FL -- 263.376.000.000 -- 5.670.125

14. Detroit, MI -- 233.130.000.000 -- 5.207.434

15. Minneapolis, MN-WI -- 215.575.000.000 -- 3.508.500

16. Phoenix, AZ -- 194.793.000.000 -- 4.263.236


17. Rio de Janeiro, RJ -- 192.357.000.000 -- 12.605.911

18. Denver, CO -- 188.923.000.000 -- 3.157.520

19. San Diego, CA -- 172.583.000.000 -- 3.140.069

20. Baltimore, MD -- 148.256.000.000 -- 2.729.110

21. Portland, OR-WA -- 143.720.000.000 -- 2.262.605

22. Cleveland, OH -- 134.863.000.000 -- 2.769.739

23. St.Louis, MO-IL -- 132.029.000.000 -- 2.817.355

24. Pittsburgh, PA -- 117.845.000.000 -- 2.359.746

25. Charlotte, NC-SC -- 117.832.000.000 -- 1.795.472

26. Tampa, FL -- 116.232.000.000 -- 2.824.724

27. Orlando, FL -- 115.175.000.000 -- 2.763.540

28. Indianapolis, IN -- 111.649.000.000 -- 1.987.673

29. Kansas City, MO-KS -- 108.144.000.000 -- 2.052.676


30. Brasília, DF-GO-MG -- 106.279.000.000 -- 3.788.169

31. Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN -- 102.469.000.000 -- 2.138.038

32. Sacramento, CA -- 98.783.000.000 -- 2.343.732

33. Raleigh, NC -- 98.323.000.000 -- 1.676.494

34. Milwaukee, WI -- 94.347.000.000 -- 1.757.604

35. Columbus, OH -- 93.986.000.000 -- 1.858.464

36. Las Vegas, NV -- 92.762.000.000 -- 1.969.975

37. Austin, TX -- 90.913.000.000 -- 1.783.519

38. Salt Lake City, UT -- 90.793.000.000 -- 1.701.821


39. Belo Horizonte, MG -- 86.802.000.000 -- 5.505.050

40. San Antonio, TX -- 86.386.000.000 -- 2.194.927

41. Nashville, TN -- 85.796.000.000 -- 1.617.142

42. Hartford, CT -- 83.485.000.000 -- 1.213.255

43. Norfolk, VA-NC -- 80.734.000.000 -- 1.679.894

44. New Orleans, LA -- 80.154.000.000 -- 1.191.089


45. Porto Alegre, RS -- 70.171.000.000 -- 4.193.618

46. Providence, RI-MA -- 68.089.000.000 -- 1.600.224

47. Richmond, VA -- 66.622.000.000 -- 1.269.380


48. Campinas, SP -- 64.946.000.000 -- 2.917.952

49. Louisville, KY-IN -- 64.588.000.000 -- 1.416.620

50. Memphis, TN-MS-AR -- 64.323.000.000 -- 1.325.605

51. Greensboro, NC -- 63.179.000.000 -- 1.366.282

52. Oklahoma City, OK -- 60.997.000.000 -- 1.278.053


53. Curitiba, PR -- 60.767.000.000 -- 3.221.230

54. Jacksonville, FL -- 60.725.000.000 -- 1.360.251

55. Birmingham, AL -- 53.547.000.000 -- 1.132.264

56. Honolulu, HI -- 52.081.000.000 -- 963.607

57. Omaha, NE-IA -- 48.979.000.000 -- 877.110

58. Grand Rapids, MI -- 47.583.000.000 -- 1.217.206

59. Baton Rouge, LA -- 46.949.000.000 -- 808.242

60. Tulsa, OK -- 46.439.000.000 -- 946.962

61. Rochester, NY -- 46.351.000.000 -- 1.055.278

62. Buffalo, NY -- 45.888.000.000 -- 1.134.039

63. Albany, NY -- 45.037.000.000 -- 1.000.474


64. Salvador, BA -- 44.163.000.000 -- 3.763.556

65. Recife, PE -- 43.969.000.000 -- 4.408.013


66. Greenville, SC -- 42.556.000.000 -- 1.122.757

67. Des Moines, IA -- 40.691.000.000 -- 580.255

68. Albuquerque, NM -- 37.875.000.000 -- 898.642


69. Vitória, ES -- 37.717.000.000 -- 1.875.671

70. Dayton, OH -- 37.464.000.000 -- 983.079

71. Madison, WI -- 36.526.000.000 -- 576.467

72. Little Rock, AR -- 36.291.000.000 -- 808.825

73. Knoxville, TN -- 35.977.000.000 -- 841.994

74. Fresno, CA -- 35.491.000.000 -- 1.095.829


75. Fortaleza, CE -- 34.984.000.000 -- 3.720.489

76. Bakersfield, CA -- 33.768.000.000 -- 851.710

77. Harrisburg, PA -- 32.606.000.000 -- 687.222


78. Goiânia-Anápolis, GO -- 32.410.000.000 -- 2.574.913

79. Tucson, AZ -- 32.335.000.000 -- 989.569

80. Columbia, SC -- 32.203.000.000 -- 777.116


81. Manaus, AM -- 31.231.000.000 -- 1.924.581

82. Allentown, PA-NJ -- 30.412.000.000 -- 824.916

83. S.José Campos-Taubaté, SP -- 30.135.000.000 -- 1.542.099

84. Portland, ME -- 29.713.000.000 -- 623.205

85. Charleston, SC -- 28.902.000.000 -- 682.121

86. El Paso, TX -- 28.755.000.000 -- 820.790

87. Toledo, OH -- 28.037.000.000 -- 650.266

88. Sarasota, FL -- 27.424.000.000 -- 869.866

89. Syracuse, NY -- 27.404.000.000 -- 662.553

90. Wichita, KS -- 27.363.000.000 -- 625.526

91. Boise City, ID -- 27.203.000.000 -- 627.664

92. Colorado Springs, CO -- 26.855.000.000 -- 660.319


93. Campos dos Goytcazes, RJ -- 26.806.000.000 -- 592.793

94. Huntsville, AL -- 26.064.000.000 -- 579.550

95. Chattanooga, TN-GA -- 25.233.000.000 -- 650.206

96. Jackson, MS -- 24.666.000.000 -- 545.394

97. Springfield, MA -- 23.360.000.000 -- 693.204

98. South Bend, IN-MI -- 21.893.000.000 -- 517.629


99. Sorocaba-Itu, SP -- 20.809.000.000 -- 1.275.253

100. Piracicaba-Limeira-R.Claro, SP -- 20.711.000.000 -- 1.239.227


101. Cape Coral-Ft. Myers, FL -- 20.284.000.000 -- 631.330

102. Lancaster, PA -- 20.188.000.000 -- 523.594


103. Joinville, SC -- 20.057.000.000 -- 855.250

104. Augusta, GA-SC -- 19.947.000.000 -- 561.858

105. Scranton-Wilkes, PA -- 19.832.000.000 -- 563.223

106. Stockton, CA -- 19.795.000.000 -- 696.214


107. Belém, PA -- 18.678.000.000 -- 2.489.872

108. Palm Bay-Melbourne, FL -- 18.519.000.000 -- 543.566

109. Ribeirão Preto, SP -- 18.239.000.000 -- 1.105.045

110. Youngstown, OH-PA -- 17.101.000.000 -- 562.739

111. Lakeland, FL -- 16.810.000.000 -- 609.492


112. Caxias do Sul, RS -- 16.743.000.000 -- 829.378

113. Johnson City-Kingsport, TN-VA -- 16.615.000.000 -- 509.611

114. Volta Redonda-Resende, RJ -- 16.305.000.000 -- 832.282

115. Provo, UT -- 16.228.000.000 -- 540.834

116. Port St.Lucie-Vero Beach, FL -- 15.240.000.000 -- 566.768

117. Modesto, CA -- 15.618.000.000 -- 518.522

118. McAllen, TX -- 15.379.000.000 -- 797.810


119. Itajaí-B.Camboriú, SC -- 15.333.000.000 -- 583.695

120. Florianópolis, SC -- 13.951.000.000 -- 965.486

121. São Luís, MA -- 13.669.000.000 -- 1.513.159

122. Londrina, PR -- 12.919.000.000 -- 1.097.066

123. Uberlândia, MG -- 12.813.000.000 -- 728.557

124. Blumenau, SC -- 12.517.000.000 -- 687.342

125. Araraquara-São Carlos, SP -- 11.860.000.000 -- 710.350

126. Natal, RN -- 11.826.000.000 -- 1.524.198

127. João Pessoa, PB -- 10.748.000.000 -- 1.305.737

128. Maceió, AL -- 10.639.000.000 -- 1.364.704

129. São José do Rio Preto, SP -- 10.452.000.000 -- 779.906

130. Cuiabá, MT -- 10.372.000.000 -- 873.232

131. Campo Grande, MS -- 10.194.000.000 -- 870.419

132. Aracaju, SE -- 9.982.000.000 -- 1.030.706

133. Maringá -- 8.874.000.000 -- 731.654

134. Pelotas-Rio Grande, RS -- 8.764.000.000 -- 603.535

135. Bauru, SP -- 8.402.000.000 -- 565.145

136. Teresina, PI-MA -- 7.883.000.000 -- 1.130.487

137. Ipatinga, MG -- 6.899.000.000 -- 559.711

138. Criciúma, SC -- 6.667.000.000 -- 506.853

139. Cascavel-Toledo, PR -- 6.662.000.000 -- 519.250

140. Juiz de Fora, MG -- 6.650.000.000 -- 658.605

141. Feira de Santana, BA -- 6.300.000.000 -- 866.793

142. Campina Grande, PB -- 4.638.000.000 -- 806.475

143. Macapá, AP -- 4.273.000.000 -- 531.672

144. Caruaru, PE -- 4.183.000.000 -- 840.473

145. Ilhéus-Itabuna, BA -- 3.656.000.000 -- 527.982

146. Petrolina-Juazeiro, PE-BA -- 3.636.000.000 -- 544.605

147. Juazeiro do Norte-Crato, CE -- 2.810.000.000 -- 628.131

148. Arapiraca, AL -- 2.702.000.000 -- 702.274




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It's quite difficult to find GDP for other areas, especially due metro area definition issues. So here a list with random metropolises around the world:


-------------------- GDP 2011 (US$) -- Pop. 2011


Mexico City ---------- US$ 302.3 bi --- 24.5 mi

Santiago ------------- US$ 109.3 bi ---- 6.0 mi

Monterrey ------------- US$ 84.4 bi ---- 4.8 mi

Bogotá ---------------- US$ 80.3 bi ---- 7.6 mi


London ------------- US$ 1,069.3 bi --- 22.7 mi

Paris ------------------ US$ 807.2 bi --- 11.9 mi

Rhein-Ruhr ------------ US$ 798.3 bi --- 17.6 mi

Milan ------------------ US$ 465.9 bi ---- 9.8 mi

Moscow --------------- US$ 451.4 bi --- 18.8 mi

Madrid ---------------- US$ 265.1 bi ---- 6.5 mi

Rome ----------------- US$ 238.3 bi ---- 5.6 mi

Berlin ----------------- US$ 219.7 bi ---- 5.8 mi

Stockholm ------------- US$ 161.6 bi --- 2.0 mi

Copenhagen ----------- US$ 158.8 bi --- 2.5 mi

Naples ----------------- US$ 133.5 bi ---- 5.8 mi

Oslo -------------------- US$ 119.7 bi --- 1.1 mi

Genoa ------------------ US$ 62.0 bi ---- 1.5 mi


Johannesburg -------- US$ 138.1 bi --- 12.3 mi


Tokyo ---------------- US$ 2.276 tri --- 40.6 mi

Osaka ---------------- US$ 901.5 bi --- 19.3 mi


Seoul ----------------- US$ 535.8 bi --- 25.3 mi

Nagoya --------------- US$ 477.4 bi ---- 9.1 mi

Shanghai ------------- US$ 297.0 bi --- 23.3 mi


Singapore ------------ US$ 259.8 bi ---- 5.2 mi

Fukuoka -------------- US$ 249.1 bi ---- 5.5 mi

Beijing ---------------- US$ 247.7 bi --- 20.1 mi

Hong Kong ------------ US$ 243.7 bi ---- 7.1 mi

Tianjin ---------------- US$ 177.6 bi --- 13.2 mi

Shizuoka -------------- US$ 146.7 bi ---- 2.7 mi


Bombay --------------- US$ 112.5 bi --- 20.7 mi

Sapporo --------------- US$ 107.1 bi ---- 2.3 mi

Sendai ----------------- US$ 102.5 bi ---- 2.3 mi

Hiroshima ------------- US$ 101.9 bi ---- 2.1 mi

Okayama --------------- US$ 78.3 bi ---- 1.6 mi

Niigata ------------------ US$ 66.9 bi ---- 1.4 mi

Kumamoto -------------- US$ 58.8 bi ---- 1.5 mi

Kagoshima -------------- US$ 47.9 bi ---- 1.1 mi

Matsuyama ------------- US$ 31.8 bi ---- 0.7 mi



Sydney ---------------- US$ 326.9 bi ---- 4.6 mi

Melbourne ------------- US$ 259.0 bi ---- 4.2 mi

Brisbane --------------- US$ 135.3 bi ---- 2.1 mi

Perth ------------------- US$ 121.4 bi ---- 1.8 mi

Adelaide ----------------- US$ 67.3 bi ---- 1.3 mi


Auckland ---------------- US$ 58.8 bi ---- 1.5 mi

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Old January 16th, 2014, 09:40 PM   #2
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Interesting, but London metro is 22.7M? I thought it is around 15M.
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If you could consider the Pearl river delta a single metro area,with over 65 million people and a gdp of over 1trillion by ppp.
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Interesting, but London metro is 22.7M? I thought it is around 15M.
Alexandru, I only have raw figures for European areas. As soon as Eurostats to release data for smaller units, I'll post it here. For now, just US and Brazilian metro areas (plus some around the world) are really metro areas. For instance, in London's case I added London, Southeast and East regions, with a 38,000 km².


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If you could consider the Pearl river delta a single metro area,with over 65 million people and a gdp of over 1trillion by ppp.
I use the real GDP numbers as PPP has no application whatsoever.
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I use the real GDP numbers as PPP has no application whatsoever.
Nominal gdp was about 650 billion dollars in 2011,so a nominal value now would be in the neighbourhood of 800 billion dollars.
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Thread has been done before by FAAN http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1489306

here's the top 10

1 Tokio Japan $ 1479
2 New York United States $ 1406
3 Los Angeles United States $ 792
4 Chicago United States $ 574
5 London United Kingdom $ 565
6 Paris France $ 564
7 Osaka Japan $ 417
8 Mexico City Mexico $ 390
9 Sao Paulo Brazil $ 390
10 Philadelphia United States $ 388
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Added another one on the list:

-------------------- GDP 2011 (US$) -- Pop. 2011
Seoul ---------------- US$ 535.8 bi --- 25.3 mi
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Figures for expanded areas:

GDP 2011 for São Paulo Macrometropolitan Area*



---------------------------------------------- GDP 2011 ------ Pop. 2011
São Paulo Macrometropolitan Area ------ 681,530,000,000 -- 31,701,724


GDP per capita: US$ 21,498. Comprising the southeast quarter of São Paulo state (63,072 km²), it's as 2011, the third largest GDP of Americas, just behind New York-Philadelphia-Hartford corridor and Southern California; overtopping Chicago-Milwaukee corridor, expanded Bay Area and Washington-Baltimore. The weak Brazilian real (2012-2013) will flatten the GDP of São Paulo region, but it'll probably be able to hold the 3rd place.

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Another macroregion in Americas:

The second largest GDP of Latin America would be Valle del México*

--------------------------------------- GDP 2011 ------ Pop. 2010 ----- Area
Valle del México -------- 377,806,000,000 -- 35,418,952 -- 87,841 km²


GDP per capita US$ 10,600

Definition: Distrito Federal, Estado del México, Hidalgo, Morelos, Puebla and Tlaxcala
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Here is the list straight from the wiki page. The two most comprehensive studies were done by PWC (ppp adjusted) in 2008, and the Brookings institution (nominal 2012)

PPP is the most accurate way to obtain the true value of GDP, it's a shame there isn't a more recent list

As you can see American cities are still dominating, along with the two largest Japanese and European cities. In the future this list will probably be a lot more Chinese.

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I already prepared the US part of 2012's list. Lots of changing as US Census Bureau redefined their metro definitions:

2012


Country -- GDP 2012 (US$) -- Pop. 2012

USA --- 15.566.077.000.000 --- 313.914.040



MAs ------------------- GDP 2012 (US$) -- Pop. 2012

1. New York, NY-NJ-CT-PA -- 1.555.043.000.000 -- 23.174.569

2. Los Angeles, CA -- 918.834.000.000 -- 18.238.998

3. San Francisco, CA -- 606.643.000.000 -- 8.370.967

4. Chicago, IL-IN-WI -- 578.275.000.000 -- 9.746.720

5. Boston, MA-RI-NH-CT -- 470.343.000.000 -- 7.784.283

6. Washington, DC-MD-VA-WV -- 467.682.000.000 -- 6.356.514

7. Houston, TX -- 449.439.000.000 -- 6.177.035

8. Dallas, TX -- 423.928.000.000 -- 6.822.926

9. Philadelphia, PA-NJ-DE-MD -- 408.170.000.000 -- 7.129.428

10. Atlanta, GA -- 308.278.000.000 -- 5.839.672

11. Miami, FL -- 289.964.000.000 -- 6.335.967

12. Seattle, WA -- 282.741.000.000 -- 4.183.702

13. Detroit, MI -- 243.551.000.000 -- 5.212.462

14. Minneapolis, MN-WI -- 228.301.000.000 -- 3.508.500

15. Phoenix, AZ -- 201.653.000.000 -- 4.329.534

16. Denver, CO -- 196.187.000.000 -- 3.214.218

17. San Diego, CA -- 177.410.000.000 -- 3.177.063

18. Portland, OR-WA -- 171.124.000.000 -- 2.992.924

19. Baltimore, MD -- 157.260.000.000 -- 2.753.149

20. Cleveland, OH -- 155.107.000.000 -- 3.169.252

21. Charlotte, NC-SC -- 137.189.000.000 -- 2.296.569

22. St.Louis, MO-IL -- 136.677.000.000 -- 2.795.794

23. Pittsburgh, PA-OH-WV -- 127.111.000.000 -- 2.483.280

24. Indianapolis, IN -- 124.544.000.000 -- 2.125.475

25. Kansas City, MO-KS -- 122.023.000.000 -- 2.279.515

26. Orlando, FL -- 121.472.000.000 -- 2.920.603

27. Tampa, FL -- 119.926.000.000 -- 2.842.878

28. Salt Lake City, UT -- 111.247.000.000 -- 2.286.998

29. Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN -- 108.236.000.000 -- 2.128.603

30. Sacramento, CA -- 102.218.000.000 -- 2.364.430

31. Raleigh, NC -- 101.123.000.000 -- 1.711.390

32. Columbus, OH -- 100.512.000.000 -- 1.944.002

33. Las Vegas, NV-AZ -- 99.351.000.000 -- 2.204.093

34. Austin, TX -- 98.677.000.000 -- 1.834.303

35. Milwaukee, WI -- 95.776.000.000 -- 1.761.778

36. Nashville, TN -- 94.789.000.000 -- 1.726.693

37. Hartford, CT -- 93.891.000.000 -- 1.488.570

38. San Antonio, TX -- 91.995.000.000 -- 2.234.003

39. New Orleans, LA -- 88.554.000.000 -- 1.350.537

40. Norfolk, VA-NC -- 84.836.000.000 -- 1.699.925

41. Louisville, KY-IN -- 69.016.000.000 -- 1.401.764

42. Greensboro, NC -- 68.640.000.000 -- 1.537.682

43. Richmond, VA -- 68.612.000.000 -- 1.231.980

44. Memphis, TN-MS-AR -- 66.778.000.000 -- 1.341.690

45. Oklahoma City, OK -- 63.338.000.000 -- 1.296.565

46. Jacksonville, FL -- 62.251.000.000 -- 1.377.850

47. Birmingham, AL -- 58.992.000.000 -- 1.136.650

48. Honolulu, HI -- 56.561.000.000 -- 976.372

49. Harrisburg-York, PA -- 52.518.000.000 -- 1.228.559

50. Omaha, NE-IA -- 51.878.000.000 -- 885.624

51. Tulsa, OK -- 47.891.000.000 -- 951.880

52. Baton Rouge, LA -- 47.709.000.000 -- 815.298

53. Rochester, NY -- 47.317.000.000 -- 1.082.284

54. Buffalo, NY -- 47.057.000.000 -- 1.134.210

55. Des Moines, IA -- 46.673.000.000 -- 680.139

56. Albany, NY -- 46.631.000.000 -- 1.003.118

57. Greenville, SC -- 45.608.000.000 -- 1.159.850

58. Albuquerque, NM -- 45.075.000.000 -- 1.048.065

59. Madison, WI -- 44.502.000.000 -- 781.196

60. Grand Rapids, MI -- 43.862.000.000 -- 1.005.648

61. Knoxville, TN -- 39.029.000.000 -- 963.287

62. Dayton, OH -- 37.609.000.000 -- 938.178

63. Little Rock, AR -- 37.626.000.000 -- 815.117

64. Fresno, CA -- 35.939.000.000 -- 1.100.113

65. El Paso, TX-NM -- 35.460.000.000 -- 1.045.180

66. Cape Coral-Ft. Myers, FL -- 34.558.000.000 -- 977.720

67. Columbia, SC -- 34.301.000.000 -- 784.745

68. Bakersfield, CA -- 34.268.000.000 -- 856.158

69. Tucson, AZ -- 33.353.000.000 -- 992.394

70. Chattanooga, TN-GA -- 31.681.000.000 -- 798.460

71. Charleston, SC -- 31.017.000.000 -- 697.439

72. Portland, ME -- 30.911.000.000 -- 625.726

73. Wichita, KS -- 29.644.000.000 -- 636.105

74. South Bend, IN-MI -- 29.603.000.000 -- 674.272

75. Syracuse, NY -- 28.453.000.000 -- 660.934

76. Toledo, OH -- 28.311.000.000 -- 608.711

77. Colorado Springs, CO -- 28.029.000.000 -- 668.353

78. Sarasota, FL -- 27.698.000.000 -- 882.491

79. Boise City, ID -- 27.455.000.000 -- 637.896

80. Huntsville, AL -- 26.731.000.000 -- 584.967

81. Jackson, MS -- 26.414.000.000 -- 576.800

82. Charleston, WV-KY-OH -- 26.389.000.000 -- 590.619

83. Mobile, AL -- 22.486.000.000 -- 604.726

84. Modesto, CA -- 22.444.000.000 -- 784.031

85. Springfield, MA -- 22.111.000.000 -- 625.718

86. Lancaster, PA -- 20.953.000.000 -- 526.823

87. Augusta, GA-SC -- 20.828.000.000 -- 575.898

88. Scranton-Wilkes, PA -- 20.465.000.000 -- 563.629

89. Spokane, WA -- 20.352.000.000 -- 532.253

90. Palm Bay-Melbourne, FL -- 18.107.000.000 -- 547.307

91. Youngstown, OH-PA -- 17.563.000.000 -- 558.206

92. Lakeland, FL -- 17.093.000.000 -- 616.158

93. Johnson City-Kingsport, TN-VA -- 16.622.000.000 -- 509.690

94. Visalia, CA -- 16.466.000.000 -- 603.341

95. McAllen, TX -- 16.025.000.000 -- 806.552
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Here are the top 20 according to the Brookings Institute - seem a lot more reliable to me...:

1. Tokyo - $1520 billion
2. New York - $1210 billion
3. Los Angeles - $790 billion
4. Seoul - $774 billion
5. London - $731 billion
6. Paris - $669 billion
7. Osaka - $655 billion
8. Chicago - $525 billion
9. Moscow - $520 billion
10 Shanghai - $517 billion
11. Sao Paulo - $473 billion
12. Rhine - Ruhr - $465 billion
13. Beijing - $427 billion
14. Washington - $415 billion
15. Mexico City - $411 billion
16. Houston - $400 billion
17. Dallas - $368 billion
18. Nagoya - $367 billion
19. Hong Kong - $350 billion
20. Buenos Aires - $348 billion
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Reliable?!?! How come? It's just gross estimates, using bizarre metro area definitions and it's expressed in fantasy money (PPP). For instance, Argentina GDP is US$ 450 billion and this trashy list gives a US$ 350 billion GDP for Buenos Aires.

My data come straight from the national statistical offices. It's not only reliable, but the only source existing. Every year since 2006 I collect this data for the US and Brazil (BEA and IBGE) and post on discussion forums to have some kind of peer review. This year I decided to expanded it to other countries as well.
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Here are the top 20 according to the Brookings Institute - seem a lot more reliable to me...:

1. Tokyo - $1520 billion
2. New York - $1210 billion
3. Los Angeles - $790 billion
4. Seoul - $774 billion
5. London - $731 billion
6. Paris - $669 billion
7. Osaka - $655 billion
8. Chicago - $525 billion
9. Moscow - $520 billion
10 Shanghai - $517 billion
11. Sao Paulo - $473 billion
12. Rhine - Ruhr - $465 billion
13. Beijing - $427 billion
14. Washington - $415 billion
15. Mexico City - $411 billion
16. Houston - $400 billion
17. Dallas - $368 billion
18. Nagoya - $367 billion
19. Hong Kong - $350 billion
20. Buenos Aires - $348 billion
yes, it certainly is much more reliable, most of his statistics appear completely made up; or pulled from random sources and dates. I'll stick with one list from a reputable organization that provides equal statistics for all

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Here are the top 20 according to the Brookings Institute - seem a lot more reliable to me...:

1. Tokyo - $1520 billion
2. New York - $1210 billion
3. Los Angeles - $790 billion
4. Seoul - $774 billion
5. London - $731 billion
6. Paris - $669 billion
7. Osaka - $655 billion
8. Chicago - $525 billion
9. Moscow - $520 billion
10 Shanghai - $517 billion
11. Sao Paulo - $473 billion
12. Rhine - Ruhr - $465 billion
13. Beijing - $427 billion
14. Washington - $415 billion
15. Mexico City - $411 billion
16. Houston - $400 billion
17. Dallas - $368 billion
18. Nagoya - $367 billion
19. Hong Kong - $350 billion
20. Buenos Aires - $348 billion

Hey I found a great link from Brookings, with an interactive map which is awesome, here's the description

http://www.brookings.edu/research/in...etro-monitor-3

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This interactive feature provides economic growth data (real GDP per capita and employment change) for the largest 300 metropolitan economies worldwide for three periods: 2011 to 2012, the latest year of a still-volatile period for the global economy; the minimum year of growth between 2007 and 2011; and 1993 to 2007, which provides the long-run trend each metropolitan area followed prior to the recession. It further shows how metropolitan areas performed relative to their countries between 2011 and 2012 and identifies the degree to which metro areas have recovered from the downturn. The interactive also provides a series of basic economic data for each metropolitan area, including industry composition of metro output, population, metro area GDP, and metro area GDP per capita.
This is by far the best and most comprehensive study I have seen done internationally

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Interesting, but London metro is 22.7M? I thought it is around 15M.
22.7 million according to London's government, and that measure is most comparable to US CSAs. Anything giving a metro population of 15 million is using a marrower definition of the London metropolitan region than an US CSA.
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yes, it certainly is much more reliable, most of his statistics appear completely made up; or pulled from random sources and dates. I'll stick with one list from a reputable organization that provides equal statistics for all
Could you provide an example of made up stats or you're just trolling as usual? If you don't, show some rerspect and stop spamming here.
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I'll stick with one list from a reputable organization that provides equal statistics for all
Which list is that? It's certainly not PWCs, which compares, for instance the 28,120 km2 of Chicago's CSA with London's 1,569 km2 to reach the ludicrous conclusion that an Chicago and its surrounds, with 9.8 million people, generate a slightly larger economic output than 8.5 million Londoners contained within a land area just 7% the size. The two are obviously incomparable.
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Which list is thatIt's certainly not PWC's, which compares, for instance the 28,120 km2 of Chicago's CSA with London's 1,569 km2 to reach the ludicrous conclusion that an area of/around Chicago with 9.8 million people has a slightly larger economic output than 8.5 million Londoners contained within a land area just 7% the size. The two are obviouslly incomparable.
No, we were talking about the brookings one, take a look at it, it's really good, especially the link with the interactive map, it has lots of interesting details
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Which list is thatIt's certainly not PWC's, which compares, for instance the 28,120 km2 of Chicago's CSA with London's 1,569 km2 to reach the ludicrous conclusion that an area of/around Chicago with 9.8 million people has a slightly larger economic output than 8.5 million Londoners contained within a land area just 7% the size. The two are obviouslly incomparable.
And he has the nerve to post such "survey" here...

The list use fantasy money, they make no distinction between city proper and metro areas and we have no idea where they collected the material or what definitions they use.
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