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Old January 28th, 2014, 02:35 AM   #61
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GDP of Australian cities (2011-12).

http://www.sgsep.com.au/files/GDP_by...tal_City_0.pdf

Doesn't say whether it's in $AUD or $USD, but I'm assuming it is in $AUD which was at parity at the time ('11-12). I'll let you decide how you convert it to USD.

City - GDP (Population)

Sydney - $319 billion (4.66 million)
Melbourne - $252 billion (4.25 million)
Brisbane - $132 billion (2.2 million)
Perth - $118 billion (1.9 million)
Adelaide - $65 billion (1.27 million)
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Old January 28th, 2014, 04:16 AM   #62
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Converted:

-------------------- GDP 2011 (US$) -- Pop. 2011

Sydney ---------------- US$ 326.9 bi ---- 4.6 mi

Melbourne ------------- US$ 259.0 bi ---- 4.2 mi

Brisbane --------------- US$ 135.3 bi ---- 2.1 mi

Perth ------------------- US$ 121.4 bi ---- 1.8 mi

Adelaide ----------------- US$ 67.3 bi ---- 1.3 mi



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Old January 30th, 2014, 11:50 AM   #63
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The purchasing power in some European capital cities (not metro areas, though):

Country | Capital | Inhabitants (city) | 2013 GDP per capita (purchasing power in €)

Northern Europe

Norway | ​Oslo | ​623.966 | ​35.182 ​
Sweden | ​Stockholm | ​881.235 | ​26.459 ​(some suburbs above 40.000, SCB)
​Denmark | ​Copenhagen ​| 559.440 | ​20.154 ​
​Finland | ​Helsinki | ​603.968 | ​23.239 ​
​Iceland | ​Reykjavík | ​119.764 | ​19.289

Central Europe

Germany | ​Berlin | ​3.501.872 | 18.757
​Slovakia | ​Bratislava | ​​415.589 | 11.608
​Poland | ​Warsaw | ​​1.715.517 | 10.478
​Czech Republic | ​Prague | ​1.246.780 | 9.579
​Moldova | ​Chișinău | ​​800.601 | 1.848

More information: http://www.gfk.com/news-and-events/p...e-2013-14.aspx.

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Old February 1st, 2014, 09:56 PM   #64
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It's a shame they don't have figures for the metro areas, otherwise I could do the conversion.

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NZ added:

-------------------- GDP 2011 (US$) -- Pop. 2011

Auckland ----------------- US$ 58.8 bi ---- 1.5 mi
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Old February 5th, 2014, 11:59 PM   #65
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Going on grouping cities according to their sizes:

800,000 - 1,000,000

-------------------- GDP 2011 (US$) -- Pop. 2011

Honolulu --------------- 52.081.000.000 -- 963.607

Omaha ----------------- 48.979.000.000 -- 877.110

Baton Rouge ------------ 46.949.000.000 -- 808.242

Tulsa ------------------- 46.439.000.000 -- 946.962

Albuquerque ------------ 37.875.000.000 -- 898.642

Dayton ------------------ 37.464.000.000 -- 983.079

Little Rock -------------- 36.291.000.000 -- 808.825

Knoxville ---------------- 35.977.000.000 -- 841.994

Bakersfield -------------- 33.768.000.000 -- 851.710

Tucson ------------------ 32.335.000.000 -- 989.569

Allentown --------------- 30.412.000.000 -- 824.916

El Paso ------------------ 28.755.000.000 -- 820.790

Sarasota ----------------- 27.424.000.000 -- 869.866


Joinville ------------------ 20.057.000.000 -- 855.250

Caxias do Sul ------------ 16.743.000.000 -- 829.378

Volta Redonda-Resende --- 16.305.000.000 -- 832.282

Florianópolis -------------- 13.951.000.000 -- 965.486

Cuiabá -------------------- 10.372.000.000 -- 873.232

Campo Grande ------------- 10.194.000.000 -- 870.419

Feira de Santana ----------- 6.300.000.000 -- 866.793

Campina Grande ------------ 4.638.000.000 -- 806.475

Caruaru -------------------- 4.183.000.000 -- 840.473



Omaha, as Des Moines, with a very high GDP per capita;

Sarasota, as those smaller areas of Florida, with a very low GDP per capita. I guess the lack of a industrial base is the reason;

Caxias do Sul is the largest Italian city of Rio Grande do Sul, the centre of Brazil's vinelands. Together with Blumenau, the area has the smallest portion of people living under poverty. Very strong industry, and as in Blumenau, mainly local owned. With a GDP per capita of US$ 20,200, very strong social index, it's a full developed region.
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Old February 6th, 2014, 12:23 AM   #66
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I forgot to mention that this is the avarage houshold income, not GDP per capita.

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The purchasing power in some European capital cities (not metro areas, though):

Country | Capital | Inhabitants (city) | 2013 GDP per capita (purchasing power in €)

Northern Europe

Norway | ​Oslo | ​623.966 | ​35.182 ​
Sweden | ​Stockholm | ​881.235 | ​26.459 ​(some suburbs above 40.000, SCB)
​Denmark | ​Copenhagen ​| 559.440 | ​20.154 ​
​Finland | ​Helsinki | ​603.968 | ​23.239 ​
​Iceland | ​Reykjavík | ​119.764 | ​19.289

Central Europe

Germany | ​Berlin | ​3.501.872 | 18.757
​Slovakia | ​Bratislava | ​​415.589 | 11.608
​Poland | ​Warsaw | ​​1.715.517 | 10.478
​Czech Republic | ​Prague | ​1.246.780 | 9.579
​Moldova | ​Chișinău | ​​800.601 | 1.848

More information: http://www.gfk.com/news-and-events/p...e-2013-14.aspx.
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Old February 6th, 2014, 01:01 AM   #67
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Using European NUTS 2 (2010 figures) converting them into 2011 ones. Scandinavia:

----------------------- GDP 2011 (US$) -- Pop. 2011

Stockholm --------------- US$ 161.6 bi --- 2.0 mi

Copenhagen ------------- US$ 158.8 bi --- 2.5 mi

Oslo --------------------- US$ 119.7 bi --- 1.1 mi
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Old February 6th, 2014, 01:43 AM   #68
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Using European NUTS 2 (2010 figures) converting them into 2011 ones. Scandinavia:

----------------------- GDP 2011 (US$) -- Pop. 2011

Stockholm --------------- US$ 161.6 bi --- 2.0 mi

Copenhagen ------------- US$ 158.8 bi --- 2.5 mi

Oslo --------------------- US$ 119.7 bi --- 1.1 mi
The population figures for Stockholm and Copenhagen are either switched, either incorrect. Anyway, that doesn't matter that much.
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Old February 6th, 2014, 02:07 AM   #69
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No, it's correct. Using NUTS 2, Stockholm: Stockholms län; Copenhagen: Hovedstaden and Sjælland.
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Old February 7th, 2014, 12:12 AM   #70
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No, it's correct. Using NUTS 2, Stockholm: Stockholms län; Copenhagen: Hovedstaden and Sjælland.
I'd exclude Sjælland when defining the Copenhagen metro area.

But anyway, here are the figures for 2011 for the German metro areas:

I don't know which exchange rate you use, so these figures are in €:



Rhein-Ruhr (Cologne-Düsseldorf-Dortmund) | 381.13bn€ | 11.353m | 33,572€/cap

Rhein-Main (Frankfurt) | 173.46bn€ | 4.121m | 42,094€/cap

Berlin | 135.66bn€ | 5.098m | 26,611€/cap

Munich | 130.27bn€ | 2.612m | 49,877€/cap

Hamburg | 126.90bn€ | 3.229m | 39,312€/cap

Stuttgart | 108.06bn€ | 2.692m | 40,147€/cap

Rhein-Neckar (Mannheim-Ludwigshafen) | 66.47bn€ | 1.945m | 34,170€/cap

Hannover | 50.79bn€ | 1.548m | 32,805€/cap

Nürnberg | 49.65bn€ | 1.423m | 34,877€/cap

Halle-Leipzig | 35.46bn€ | 1.430m | 24,796€/cap

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Old February 7th, 2014, 12:26 AM   #71
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Chrissib, that's my base (or better, IMF 2011):

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Brazil vs World

Countries -- GDP 2011 (US$) -- Pop. 2011
--- World --- 69.899.225.000.000 --- 7.000.000.000
1. United States --- 15.075.675.000.000 --- 312.598.000
2. China --- 7.298.147.000.000 --- 1.339.724.852
3. Japan --- 5.866.540.000.000 --- 127.720.000
4. Germany --- 3.607.364.000.000 --- 81.729.000
5. France --- 2.778.085.000.000 --- 65.821.885
6. Brazil --- 2.492.907.000.000 --- 192.376.496
7. United Kingdom --- 2.431.310.000.000 --- 62.300.000
8. Italy --- 2.198.732.000.000 --- 60.705.991
9. Russia --- 1.850.401.000.000 --- 142.914.136
10. India --- 1.826.811.000.000 --- 1.210.193.422
11. Canada --- 1.738.954.000.000 --- 34.482.779
12. Australia --- 1.486.914.000.000 --- 22.546.300
13. Spain --- 1.479.560.000.000 --- 46.162.024
--- Sudeste -- 1.382.946.000.000 --- 80.974.794
14. Mexico --- 1.153.958.000.000 --- 112.336.538
15. South Korea --- 1.116.247.000.000 --- 48.219.000
16. Indonesia --- 846.450.000.000 --- 237.641.326
17. Netherlands --- 838.112.000.000 --- 16.715.489
--- São Paulo --- 812.931.000.000 --- 41.589.892
18. Turkey --- 774.336.000.000 --- 73.722.988
19. Switzerland --- 660.761.000.000 --- 7.870.100
20. Saudi Arabia --- 597.086.000.000 --- 27.136.977

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About Copenhagen, you'll see I'm using broader definitions (as it's hard to find figures for smaller units). Even including Sjælland, Copenhagen is still very small compared to London, Moscow, German and Italian metro areas.

About Germany, I'll use NUTS 2 for Munich, Stuttgart, Frankfurt, Leipzig and Hamburg (Hamburg + Schleswig-Holstein).
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About Germany, I'll use NUTS 2 for Munich, Stuttgart, Frankfurt, Leipzig and Hamburg (Hamburg + Schleswig-Holstein).
The problem for the NUTS 2 areas is that they don't depict the metropolitan areas close enough. In my previous post I used county level data.
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Chrissib, and what is the GDP for Germany in that year? I need it to convert into 2011 US$.

Another thing: could you make them a little bit broader to be comparable with the US CSAs (or with Berlin)? Also, would it possible to add every metro over 500,000 inh as Ukiyo did for Japan?
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Chrissib, and what is the GDP for Germany in that year? I need it to convert into 2011 US$.

Another thing: could you make them a little bit broader to be comparable with the US CSAs (or with Berlin)? Also, would it possible to add every metro over 500,000 inh as Ukiyo did for Japan?
According to my source, the GDP of Germany in 2011 was 2.5926 trillion €.

The problem is that the county borders in Germany are too weird to include metropoltan areas even below 1 million people.

The figures for the metropolitan areas I gave are already rather generous. If I had figures on municipality level I'd define some of them stricter. The problem with the CSA like definitions is that they would lead to very inflated figures for the German metropolitan areas because Germany's countryside is densely populated. You'd add vast rural areas that have no important commuting relationship with the city anymore.
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CSAs aren't about commuter flows between suburbs and a central city but about commuting ties between adjacent Metropolitan Areas (MSAs). Your population figures seem ok for MSA-equivalents apart from the Frankfurt and Stuttgart areas, which are too conservative IMO.
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CSAs aren't about commuter flows between suburbs and a central city but about commuting ties between adjacent Metropolitan Areas (MSAs). Your population figures seem ok for MSA-equivalents apart from the Frankfurt and Stuttgart areas, which are too conservative IMO.
Which areas would you add to Frankfurt and Stuttgart?
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I forgot to mention that this is the avarage houshold income, not GDP per capita.
That's actually neither.. it's GDP PPP per capita - an ajusted version of the GDP based on a select bucket of expenses and goods calculated in a fictive currency..

As for your Copenhagen population figure that's just København's Municipal - one of the 18 municipals that makes up Copenhagen City..

( Copenhagen is like London made up by many municipals - and like London the most central municipal ( "City of London" ) it's only in small part of the overall city )



Stats from 2012:


Copenhagen city: pop 1.230.728
Copenhagen Metro 2,5mil ( 3,7mil with Swedish parts included )

Income:
Average personal income 332.473DKK = $60.717
Average houshold income 534.478 DKK = $97.609

Wage:
( 75% of 18+ population have an occupation )
Average personal wage ( all with occupation ) 489.756 DKK = $89.441
Average personal wage ( fulltime occupation ) 643.135 DKK = $117.452
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Tel Aviv - Yafo area (3.5 - 4 million pop.)

some 160 billion (US$)
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Which areas would you add to Frankfurt and Stuttgart?
The German Bundesamt für Bauwesen und Raumordnung used to produce a standardized statistic of metro areas ("Stadtregionen") based on commuting patterns. They put the Rhine Main Area at 4.7 million and Stuttgart at 3.4 million (larger than Hamburg and Munich), if I remember correctly. The Rhine Main area extends quite far northwest past the Taunus and along the Rhine, almost until Koblenz.
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Copenhagen city: pop 1.230.728
Copenhagen Metro 2,5mil ( 3,7mil with Swedish parts included )
Um, as far as I know there are no "Swedish parts" of the Copenhagen metro area. Yeah, Malmö and south eastern Skåne are geographically close, but they are not part of Copenhagen. Such a theoretical demographic area would probably be called someting like "Öresund region".
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