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Old January 14th, 2015, 06:51 PM   #21
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if I understand right the issue is free access to the Sea of azov which is an inland Sea of 2 countries and if someone wants to limit access to it both countries have to agree to it.
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Old January 15th, 2015, 11:27 AM   #22
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Maybe then they can make one small underwater section.
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, not Russian, the "Siberia" thing is a joke.
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Old January 15th, 2015, 06:32 PM   #23
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A funicular is now also proposed.

http://ria.ru/crimea_today/20141217/1038785489.html

One commenter on the article predicts that the Kerch Strait Catapult will be the next proposal.
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Old January 30th, 2015, 03:45 PM   #24
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http://www.handelsblatt.com/unterneh.../11304842.html

According to this article, the company Stroygazmontazh of Arkady Rotenberg will shall build the bridge till december 2018.
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Old January 30th, 2015, 06:58 PM   #25
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Correct. He is a friend of the most polite president.


http://ria.ru/infografika/20141031/1031185843.html
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Old January 30th, 2015, 10:28 PM   #26
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more one pic...

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Old February 26th, 2015, 09:12 AM   #27
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This is becoming redundant now that Russian occupation of Mariupol is looking more certain by the day.
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Old April 7th, 2015, 09:07 PM   #28
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With all the unrest in the area, I doubt there would be money to invest to build it. Russia is very tight economically at the moment.
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Old April 8th, 2015, 08:18 AM   #29
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This is becoming redundant now that Russian occupation of Mariupol is looking more certain by the day.
Highly doubt it. Besides, Mariupol is a long way from the closest land bridge to Crimea:



The kind of massive military endeavour implied here (securing a passage 200-250 miles into foreign territory, taking control of rail infrastructure etc) would be immensely expensive both economically and diplomatically.

I bet the bridge across the narrow little strait (3 miles of water only a few feet deep, save for the central channel that allows ships to pass through) would wind up being way cheaper than that, not to mention just beefing up shipping (which is already happening).

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With all the unrest in the area, I doubt there would be money to invest to build it. Russia is very tight economically at the moment.
There is no unrest in the Republic of Crimea or in Krasnodar Krai, the two territories that are relevant here. I don't know how the financing situation looks like, but I suspect this thing's gonna be delayed a lot even though construction is said to start in a few months...

Foreign investment is probably out of the question for obvious reasons and while Russia does afford it on its own even at this stage, it's not like there aren't other areas that need big spending much more.

Also, the money already allocated for bringing Crimea up to Russian standards (fixing the crumbling infrastructure, communications etc) and making it independent from Ukraine in terms of water supply etc is ridiculous as it is (just look in the Russian section here on this forum, there are a number of Crimea threads kept up to date by residents of the peninsula, the amount of stuff being done is nothing short of staggering ). Even bigger money might become difficult to justify down the road, since a lot has to be done elsewhere too.

Well, I'll be watching it but I'd wager that the proposed timetables are a wee bit too optimistic...
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Old April 8th, 2015, 09:33 AM   #30
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Actually, come think about it... The "Tuzla" version of the bridge that seems to be what they're going for now (that uses Tuzla Island for a portion of it) could perhaps be built in 2-3 years. Now, I'm only a layperson and I might be horribly wrong but this is how I see it:

Apart from the fact that almost 1/3rd of the way is across said island, the water depth is nearly negligible over the remaining 2/3rds (hovering around 3 feet most of the time, apart from the aforementioned channel just off the coast to the west that is very narrow and the only portion that would require a "proper" bridge to facilitate for passing ships). That ought to make things a fair bit easier, seeing that a person of average height could actually wade beside it most of the way...

A somewhat similar bridge (across shallow water, considerable length, no huge free spans) was built north of Vladivostok in the Russian Far East a few years ago, namely the motor bridge across the Amur bay. It's of similar length and was built in less than 3 years:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мост_через_Амурский_залив
(no English article on it I'm afraid)

However, it is only a motor bridge so I guess flinging a railway on it as well (as they're proposing in the Kerch case) would make construction take longer and naturally be way more expensive.

Another similar thing that's U/C is the so-called "Western Rapid Diameter" in St. Petersburg - a massive highway along the western waterfront of the city. Only parts of it are across water (the mouths of the Neva river "delta"), but nearly all of it is elevated. There are some threads about it in the Russian section, like this one:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...731398&page=62

Interestingly, one of the companies that are involved in this ongoing St. Petersburg project are also involved with the Kerch strait bridge project. This company was also involved in Vladivostok, but not with the Amur bay bridge, just the massive and indeed well-known "Russky" bridge.

So based on this, I think that it actually can happen (re Kerch, that is) reasonably fast, if the money's there. These folks have gotten things done in the past and know what they're doing. Now, they also seem to be saying that money is indeed available:
http://www.c-inform.info/news/id/21330
(article from yesterday in a Crimean news outlet)

And all the preparations are supposed to be done by August, with construction commencing shortly thereafter... Interesting.
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Old April 9th, 2015, 01:33 AM   #31
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Another serious issue reported here:
http://ankerch-crimea.ru/page/news/71299/

The area is littered with UXO left from World War II, and they have already found and defused several bombs.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 05:09 AM   #32
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Old April 16th, 2015, 11:22 AM   #33
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any news?
Work is apparently ongoing.

Now, construction equipment is starting to show up on the Taman pensinaula:

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Photos have been posted to facebook showing construction of the bridge

https://www.facebook.com/MySimf/posts/543974855741482
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Old May 21st, 2015, 02:58 PM   #35
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Can we pls stick to the bridge and not the Ukrainian war?
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Old May 28th, 2015, 11:06 PM   #36
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sucks that you were brigged. Hope it's not for long.
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Old May 28th, 2015, 11:52 PM   #37
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Bridge construction is the matter of surviving of the Crimean residents, because from time to time (depends on commercial interests of the Ukrainian companies, delivering good to Crimea) Ukraine closes the borders. This is also applied to construction of energy bridge to Crimea, because now Ukraine supplies Crimea with the electricity just because Russia does it to Ukraine by very discounted prices.
I hope they will use Crimean subcontractors as much as possible, because currently wages in Crimea are only 50% of Russia's average and this should be improved.
I think the bridge will be completed according to schedule, that is autumn 2018.
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 01:24 PM   #38
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Bridge construction is the matter of surviving of the Crimean residents, because from time to time (depends on commercial interests of the Ukrainian companies, delivering good to Crimea) Ukraine closes the borders. This is also applied to construction of energy bridge to Crimea, because now Ukraine supplies Crimea with the electricity just because Russia does it to Ukraine by very discounted prices.
I hope they will use Crimean subcontractors as much as possible, because currently wages in Crimea are only 50% of Russia's average and this should be improved.
I think the bridge will be completed according to schedule, that is autumn 2018.
I doubt it will go 100% according to schedule but when it is completed it will will increase the living standards of many Crimeans
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 09:59 AM   #39
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Lots of activity now, and the temporary bridge to the central island is well underway:





Workers barracks:



Highway construction/extensions in both Kerch and Taman (M25/A290/E97) are also underway. The bridge will link them up (previously M25 terminated at Port Kavkaz).
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