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Old August 31st, 2015, 04:25 PM   #21
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High-rise building of 390m 250m 245m 230m will be built in the near Tokyo Station
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Old August 31st, 2015, 06:14 PM   #22
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2027 though....
I guess something to look forward to
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Old September 1st, 2015, 05:01 AM   #23
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He forgot to say building. This would be the first supertall building in Tokyo, the second ever following Abeno Harukas and apparently the tallest in the country.
i was thinking about this building but its only about 800 ft tall, not a supertall
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Old September 1st, 2015, 08:37 PM   #24
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FINALLY!

A supertall for Tokyo that's not just a tower!

I don't understand how it's taken so long with how dense Tokyo currently is but let's hope this is the first of many!
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Old September 1st, 2015, 11:30 PM   #25
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I don't understand how it's taken so long with how dense Tokyo currently is but let's hope this is the first of many!
People perceive Tokyo to have the density of Manhattan on steroids, when it's actually overall more comparable to Brooklyn. It doesn't have so many tall buildings because of its sprawling polycentic nature. Also, European-style height restrictions are enforced in many areas, which have only recently been relaxed. Still, the proximity to Haneda Airport doesn't allow buildings to go very tall. The area this tower is proposed happens to be right outside the flight paths.
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Old September 1st, 2015, 11:37 PM   #26
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People perceive Tokyo to have the density of Manhattan on steroids, when it's actually overall more comparable to Brooklyn. It doesn't have so many tall buildings because of its sprawling polycentic nature. Also, European-style height restrictions are enforced in many areas, which have only relatively recently been relaxed. Still, the proximity to Haneda Airport doesn't allow buildings to go too tall. The area this tower is proposed happened to be outside the flightpaths.
Maybe because Tokyo is located in a seismic zone ? This massive new tower can face it !
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 01:25 AM   #27
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FINALLY! it was time that tokyo gets a supertall!
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 01:26 AM   #28
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People perceive Tokyo to have the density of Manhattan on steroids, when it's actually overall more comparable to Brooklyn. It doesn't have so many tall buildings because of its sprawling polycentic nature. Also, European-style height restrictions are enforced in many areas, which have only recently been relaxed. Still, the proximity to Haneda Airport doesn't allow buildings to go very tall. The area this tower is proposed happens to be right outside the flight paths.
your kidding right? tokyo's density comparable to Brooklyn's? LOL JOKE OF THE DAY!

Tokyo's actually one of the most densest cities on the planet
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 02:12 AM   #29
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Great news, this city needs a supertall, aside of the Skytree. And Marunouchi seems like the perfect place, it will be an amazing sight from the Imperial Gardens.
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 02:28 AM   #30
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your kidding right? tokyo's density comparable to Brooklyn's? LOL JOKE OF THE DAY!

Tokyo's actually one of the most densest cities on the planet
The joke's on you because you prove my point. In Tokyo's principle wards (Shinjuku, Shibuya, Toshima, etc.), you literally have single-family home communities within walking distance from skyscrapers because of the reasons I said. Yes there are very high density areas, but the low density areas skew them out.

It's clear everything (which is most likely very little) you learned about Tokyo, you learned from Fast & Furious.
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 02:55 PM   #31
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Please change the thread title. The name is wrong and the height is wrong. Thanks.
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 07:17 PM   #32
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not only the name is wrong, but it is also misspelled
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 08:17 PM   #33
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your kidding right? tokyo's density comparable to Brooklyn's? LOL JOKE OF THE DAY!

Tokyo's actually one of the most densest cities on the planet
Brooklyn Density: 14,182/km2
Tokyo (Special wards) Density: 14,818/km2

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Greater Tokyo ≠ Shibuya/Shinjuku

Some parts of Tokyo are extremely dense, but most people live in places like this:





Although maybe in the far future...



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Old September 2nd, 2015, 09:50 PM   #34
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I understand the comparison with Brooklyn but I don't think it comes across the way it's intended, especially in relation to the initial question that sparked this discussion.

New York and Tokyo are 2 different cities with 2 different urban fabrics & urban layouts. New York got a different kind of density then New York.

For high rises it's the compactness of New York high rise districts which made it go higher and higher. In Tokyo, with already had several clear urban centers within the larger central areas, there were more location that saw construction of towers. Making the skyline less compact, reducing the need to go taller and taller.

And because the city has several central areas, there are also more noticeable low rise areas with small houses between these centers. You also got those areas in New York, but as the city has a more traditional urban fabric you see those mainly further away from central New York.
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Old September 4th, 2015, 01:09 PM   #35
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Great news if Tokyo would get a supertall.

For people who think there is no density in Tokyo. Walk trough some areas in streetview and you will know better.

another example


Ans totally agree with the statement from momo
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Old September 4th, 2015, 11:02 PM   #36
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Another blue glass tower. I expected much more from Tokyo. This building is too generic.
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Old September 6th, 2015, 09:10 PM   #37
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Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. It's a bit anonymous. One thing I think might set it apart is what appears to be its massiveness. It's 390m, but it looks like it's only about 2/3's that.

Also, when people talk about Tokyo, you need to clarify between "Tokyo City" and its 23 wards and Greater Tokyo, which is more or less its own prefecture.
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Old September 7th, 2015, 08:54 AM   #38
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I don't love it.
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Old September 7th, 2015, 10:10 AM   #39
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Good to see Japan's capital getting a proposed supertall, but the design looks disappointing, it reminds me of London's overwrought bulkscraper, 22 Bishopsgate.
As for the suggestion that Tokyo is like Brooklyn, as someone who knows Tokyo well, it's nonsense. The tokubetsu-ku (23 wards) have a diversity that's hard to quantify - from tightly built office buildings to suburban apartments and houses. Re New York, a city I also know and love, is the OP talking about the Financial District, Midtown, the Lower East Side, Chelsea, or Greenwich Village? Moreover unlike Gotham, Tokyo has a large number of 'downtowns' - take your pick - Ueno, Marunouchi, Shibuya, Shinjuku, Ikebukoro, Shinagawa, Ginza etc.
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Old September 8th, 2015, 06:18 PM   #40
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The whole area outside of Tokyo station is is really nice. There are some beautiful looking scrappers in the area, im sure this one will fit in nicely. (Its quite light for the area though, all the other scrapper there are a darker glass facade)

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