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Old April 25th, 2016, 11:40 PM   #21
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barely supertall status as per proposal submissions to the FAA.

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...87361358&row=7

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Proposed Case for NY: 2016-AEA-3684-OE

Status: Work In Progress

Notice Of: CONSTR

Received Date: 04/04/2016
Entered Date: 04/04/2016

Latitude (NAD 83): 40° 44' 53.00" N
Longitude (NAD 83): 73° 56' 40.06" W

City: Long Island City
State: NY
Nearest County: Queens

Structure Type: Building
Structure Name: Cityview Tower NW Corner

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Site Elevation:
16
Structure Height:
984

Total Height (AMSL):
1000
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Old April 25th, 2016, 11:47 PM   #22
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984' takes this one up a step!
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Old April 26th, 2016, 02:09 AM   #23
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Going to build a time machine and tell people ten years ago there'll be supertalls outside Manhattan. Just to see their reactions.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 03:28 AM   #24
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Manhattan will be flanked by supertalls... one in each cluster of skyscrapers immediately outside the island.

Brooklyn has 9 DeKalb
LiC has this tower
Jersey City will have 55 Hudson Street
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Old April 26th, 2016, 05:26 PM   #25
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Great to hear! Queens and Brooklyn by themselves would be 2 million plus sized cities so it's no surprise to see them finally building up their skyline. As for 55 Hudson, we know the FAA tried to limit 99 Hudson and its final height will be 900 ft, so hopefully we can get to at least 1,000 ft here, but it's no sure thing they won't try to keep it to 900 ft or less.
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Old April 27th, 2016, 03:15 AM   #26
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Going to build a time machine and tell people ten years ago there'll be supertalls outside Manhattan. Just to see their reactions.
There was a pre-recession proposal for a Renzo Piano supertall in Brooklyn but it died. I think it was proposed in 2007, so not that far off...
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Old April 27th, 2016, 03:28 AM   #27
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There was a pre-recession proposal for a Renzo Piano supertall in Brooklyn but it died. I think it was proposed in 2007, so not that far off...
yes, but was it approved? That is the key thing here. Dime tower has cleared the bureaucracy. Not its a matter of keeping the investors on board and actually getting the thing built.
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Old April 28th, 2016, 06:27 PM   #28
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http://newyorkyimby.com/2016/04/city...supertall.html

City View Tower in Long Island City Set to Become Queens’s First Supertall

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The 79-story tower headed for 23-15 44th Drive in Long Island City will likely become the first supertall building in Queens.

The developer, United Construction and Development, has filed a request with the Federal Aviation Administration to erect a 984-foot-tall high-rise. Known as City View Tower, the residential project promises to soar 330 feet beyond Citigroup’s One Court Square, which tops out at 658 feet and 50 stories across the street.

When plans for the building were filed in February, they called for a 963-foot-structure. The increase of 21 feet boosts the development to supertall status, which is 984 feet tall, according to the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat. With a bulkhead for mechanicals, the tower will reach 1,000 feet into the air, per the FAA request.

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This probably confirms that the 1,000 ft. FAA height is not just an elevation but an actual build out.
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Old April 28th, 2016, 06:44 PM   #29
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Thanks to the setbacks and its sleek shapes, this could become an elegant and quite timeless tower. Congrats to Queens/LIC!

Though I'd love to see more different kinds of facades there downtown, how about some classical architecture, stone facades, brick? That would be so New York.
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Stop spamming the same nonsensical message repeatedly. There's 30 park place and 290 central park south along with many many others.
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Old April 29th, 2016, 03:36 AM   #31
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Stop spamming the same nonsensical message repeatedly. There's 30 park place and 290 central park south along with many many others.
I think he was referring specific to LIC.
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Old April 29th, 2016, 09:58 AM   #32
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I was. And I won't let my posts get dictated by someone who obviously doesn't care about urban and architectural context - why else would you mention skyscrapers that are getting built in Midtown Manhattan, Barbaric?
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There's a reason prices at 220 CPS and 520 Park Ave are among the highest in the city, that kind of building takes a lot more to build than your average glass designs. I don't know enough about the market in Long Island City to know if it would work in its current state.

Then again I'm sure there are other ways to mix things up a bit and deviate from the omnipresent glass look and make erbse happy without going for starchitectured extravaganza.
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LIC has plenty of historic lowrises.
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That is very relevant information.
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Old April 29th, 2016, 10:57 PM   #36
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How does it actually feel to walk through LIC? It must feel like an entire new city is being build ifnront of your eyes, does it?
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LIC has plenty of historic lowrises.
define historic. by historic do you mean an old building or do you mean it actually has some historical significance. I mean if age is simply all that makes something historic than one should simply tell NIMBYs that all these new developments are historic, or at least their grandchildren will claim that in 80 years.
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To correct also the number of floors : 80.
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Old April 30th, 2016, 02:44 AM   #39
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How does it actually feel to walk through LIC? It must feel like an entire new city is being build ifnront of your eyes, does it?
Just as in Downtown Brooklyn.
I even heard from someone who went to NYC that there is some construction almost every other block in some places, Manhattan too.
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define historic. by historic do you mean an old building or do you mean it actually has some historical significance. I mean if age is simply all that makes something historic than one should simply tell NIMBYs that all these new developments are historic, or at least their grandchildren will claim that in 80 years.
I know there's the hunters point historic district which is a couple of blocks of brownstones right near Court Sq actually... Where this is going up. There is a lot of factories but walking around queensboro plaza you see more older buildings. And there's the Silvercup Studios building. Used to be a famous bakery factory or something, made Silvercup Bread.
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