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Old October 20th, 2007, 02:01 PM   #61
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It's interesting though that Denmark's tallest peak is lower than that of the Netherlands.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 03:18 PM   #62
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While we're at the maps, I've made one, with possible new parts. Some are more realistic than others, and the possible location of these roads are not decided, so it's just my guess of where they could be if build. These possible new ones are all RED:

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Old October 20th, 2007, 05:26 PM   #63
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Ring 5 seems to be the most needed to me. It can divert through traffic around the city of København. A second north-south motorvej on Jylland seems unnessesary to me. I know the part is full of trucks, but it will be much cheaper to widen the existing E45 to 2x3 lanes.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 06:04 PM   #64
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It's interesting though that Denmark's tallest peak is lower than that of the Netherlands.
172,54 meters to be excact. The air up there is so thin that I can hardly breathe!

I wonder if there are countries in Europe or in the world with a lower highest peak than Denmark?
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Old October 20th, 2007, 06:06 PM   #65
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@ Chriszwolle

There are plans to expand the E45 from Århus/Randers to Kolding to 6 lanes too, but I doubt that's enough on the long run (like some of the so called "experts" do). The Vejlefjord Bridge can be expanded to 6 lanes by removing the emergency lane, but no more than that. Building a new bridge, or expanding the excisting one further will be very hard. BTW, there have also been talk about a 3rd Lillebelt connection, though the Vejlefjord Bridge is the biggest problem at the moment. I'm not too sure about the 2nd connection down through Jutland either, and also doubt we'll see that in many years. The Holstebromotorway doesn't seem to be that needed either. Not too much trafic, though a lot of it are trucks. Some 2+1 ways could probably do the trick.

The planners have made a big mistake about the new Herning-Vejle motorway. It will be connected to E45 just north of Vejlefjorbroen, which is very stupid. They should have connected it south of Vejle instead, and still made it include the trafic from road 13 (from Viborg). That's some 20.000 extra cars a day thay will have to cross the bridge now, compared to if they had connected it south of Vejle.

The 3rd connection over "Limfjorden" (around Aaalborg) is also much needed, since there are many trafic jams.

There are also plans to expand the E20 over Funen between Lillebelt and Odense to 6 lanes. I didn't include expansions of excisting road on my map though.

I agree the biggest problem is in the Copenhagen area, and there has also been talk about a long harbourtunnel, to lead a lot of the trafic through, instad of through the city. They're currrently expanding "Ring 3" to 6 lanes, and E20 between Greve Syd-Hundige to 8 lanes and between Hundige-Ishøj to 10 lanes. They are also the 2 motorways with most trafic. Other parts needs to be expanded too though.

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Old October 20th, 2007, 06:17 PM   #66
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While we're at the maps, I've made one, with possible new parts. Some are more realistic than others, and the possible location of these roads are not decided, so it's just my guess of where they could be if build. These possible new ones are all RED:

Nice map! What would the total motorway length be if all these stretches are going to be build?

I dont like the idea of the Hærvejen motorway - better to expand the existing north-south with a couple of extra lanes. They should rather concentrate about getting the Kattegat bridge finished ASAP, and forget about that Fehmarn bridge crap.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 06:24 PM   #67
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Heh no idea, but it would surely be a lot longer than today.

If we can only have one big bridge in the next many years, I'll also much rather have the Kattegat Bridge, than the Fehmern Bridge. But hey, "We're soon rich enough to buy the whole world" so let's just build both right away.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 06:36 PM   #68
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It's interesting though that Denmark's tallest peak is lower than that of the Netherlands.
In Holland there are just a few areas with have quite some hills but around 90-95% is real flat. The city I live in is about the only city in Holland with real hills. The highest points are in the South of the province Limburg, sort of 'Dutch Ardennes'. Only up to 321 metres above sea level though.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 08:53 PM   #69
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Video: Route 161 Small little Belt Bridge >Middelfart - Fredericia<

Another video! This time the extremely narrow Small Little Belt Bridge in Middelfart. Until the Little Belt bridge was completed, all traffic to the Fyn island had to cross this bridge, which contains 2 very narrow lanes & a double-track railwayline. Enjoy!
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Old October 20th, 2007, 09:05 PM   #70
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/\ It is indeed very narrow. Here's a panorama with it and the new one. The old narrow bridge is the one to the left, should anyone not know. Click for a larger version:



And a few ones of the new one:



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Old October 20th, 2007, 09:09 PM   #71
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I tried to make a panorama there too.

[img]http://i23.************/1zmph5f.jpg[/img]

Click on it for it's original size.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 09:12 PM   #72
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E20 Little Belt Bridge

Another video, it doesn't stop
This one is of the larger little belt bridge, still a lot smaller as the great belt bridge, but still impressive. It is the bridge as shown in the pano's above.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 09:18 PM   #73
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And while we're at it, here are two photos of their greather big brother some 60-70 km to the east:



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Old October 21st, 2007, 03:33 PM   #74
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A few photos from today of the new part of Road 18:

At exit Arnborg towards Herning:


At exit Brande towards Herning:


At exit Brande towards Brande. This is where this new parts ends for now.


And finally a closer look at the road and it's equipment:

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Old October 21st, 2007, 04:02 PM   #75
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The emergency lanes look like sand. Danish Desert?

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Old October 21st, 2007, 06:11 PM   #76
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/\ LOL surely not. But the sand you see next to the emergency lane will most like soon be grass. The road was opend less than 2 weeks ago.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 09:06 AM   #77
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Danish Desert?
Danish desert!

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Old October 24th, 2007, 03:24 PM   #78
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Do you ever stop that propaganda ?
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Old October 25th, 2007, 02:20 AM   #79
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That's interesting, reminds me of Lithuania and Poland, but I didn't know Denmark had it as well! Must have sth to do with the Baltic Sea.
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^Most of Denmark's sand dunes are located in north western Jutland facing the North Sea

But we do have something even better facing the Baltic Sea - the Møns Klint located in eastern Zealand



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