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Old February 14th, 2009, 01:48 AM   #41
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Some disadvantages to me is that I have to walk down a stair, and like 100m to dump my garbage. It's more convenient when it's closer to my apartment, though not that bad.
I guess one of the advantages of highrise living is that this isn't a problem. Each floor in our building has a garbage shute, and mine is just outside our door, so it's so easy to empty the rubbish.

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I think it also depends on what kind of apartment building you're living. In Europe, they're mostly either social housing or really upscale apartments, not much in between. Another disadvantage of apartments is that if you're buying one, they're almost as expensive as a suburban home, yet you have much fewer square meters living area. If you can choose between a 190.000 80m2 apartment, or a 230.000 150 m2+garden rowhouse, the choice is quite easy if you are able to afford both.
Well, I don't know here. If I were to choose a 200,000 80m apartment in the central part of the city, or a 200,000 150m+garden house in the suburbs I would still go for the apartment in the city. The lower space would be offset by the advantage of walking downstairs to bars, cafe's, shopping and transport, plus the other advantages of being able to walk or ride a bike to downtown. Although I do like the idea of a larger house, I personally take location as a more important quality. A short commute to work and having theatre's and galleries at hand is a lovely thing.

That said, I don't have kids. And this could change everything. That 150m with garden is nicer when you have kids. But I guess then your lifestyle changes as well. There is less time for bars and less time to sit in cafe's reading the paper over a good coffee. Shopping becomes more of a chore than a past time etc. So I guess this is why many people move out of the denser apartment living when they have children.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 04:12 PM   #42
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its good is you live in the Trump World Tower, on the top floor! but bad if you live in Sheffield's Park Hill Flats!
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Old February 16th, 2009, 09:45 AM   #43
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christopher alexander bases his theories on the development of medieval cities. the constraints of that period resulted in consistently pleasing aesthetics. now he wants modern cities to follow in that path.

yet he hasn't factored in the size of cities, and the impact of the car. you could build a hamlet conforming to christopher alexander's guidelines in suburban atlanta, but it would still function like the neighborhoods around it. yet, the development industry selectively picks up bits and pieces of his theories, and adapts them to its marketing efforts.
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Old February 16th, 2009, 12:48 PM   #44
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I would love to live in a high rise, having thus far only lived in a normal house terraced house in a village and a slightly larger town. It annoys me that tower blocks in the UK are either council housing (waiting list= forever, priority to more needy people: fair enough I say) or are gentrified and incredibly expensive.
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i lived in a tower block when i was young and i liked it very much i would go back if i could as know i live in cumbria and i use to live in liverpool
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actually, it gets tired of godd view in three days. it is enough
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Old September 16th, 2015, 07:05 AM   #47
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I prefer the best of both worlds, a house on a hill. I like the privacy of a house, the garage for tinkering and having your car near by, and the green outdoor space, while I also crave views. Los Angeles has tons of these hillside houses, with great gardens and amazing views, but they're so expensive. So I just got to get more money to get my dream house.



That house has this view when looking west...



...and this looking north.

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Old September 16th, 2015, 03:51 PM   #48
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^ great shout. Hilly cities are fantastic. It's one of several reasons why I fell in love with Thessaloniki when I lived there.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 09:47 PM   #49
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Old January 24th, 2016, 06:39 PM   #50
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I have lived in modest high-rises (around 20th floor), medium high (5th-8th floor), and low-rises. They all have their advantages and disadvantages. A high-rise is very contemplative, the view from the window let you see a good part of the landscape. In China during Spring Festival it's a bit special as you can see the fireworks launched from the ground explode right in front of your window. If you are higher up, you will look down on the fireworks instead. You depend on elevators working as intended, it's too far to walk up/down.

If the neighbourhood is nice there is something to be said about medium height as well, you don't get the far-away view, but you get an overview of your neighbourhood. You might take the stairs, but you'd probably be lazy and take the elevator.

Down at the lowest floors you have little view, but if there is an attractive street, square or garden outside, it is right outside.

All in all, given the choice, I would pick a low-rise in a dense neighbourhood. But there is more than floors to consider, like the number of doors and window directions. The number of flats sharing a floor is an indication of how much privacy you'll get, but also to some extent the community spirit. In general less is better. Luxury high-rises have one apartment per building floor, slightly less luxurious ones one apartment per stairwell.

Which leads to windows. Apartments with windows in two directions, especially opposite (ideally north/south), are better than those with windows in just one. Three or four directions is even better.
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Old January 27th, 2016, 12:58 PM   #51
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I grew up in suburbia and it was pretty awesome as a kid since I could play with my toys in the backyard, swing from the hills hoist, grow vegetables and flowers and so on.

I think apartments have their own pros though, mostly not consuming as much land as sprawl and thus not having to demolish greenery/forests/bushland and so on.
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Old January 29th, 2016, 06:02 PM   #52
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I love living in a highrise.

I'm actually on the 6th floor. It's low enough that I never use the elevator. But high enough that a conversation at street level fades into the background noise.

A large building means a couple "hotel" rooms for guests, a party room, an a decent exercise room, all of which save tons of money. And it's nice being at the gym in one minute.

I'm just high enough to see over part of the neighboring building and see water.

Best of all is being close to everything. Groceries and coffee are a block away. Work is a seven-minute walk. Saving an hour per day on commuting (vs. a typical co-worker) is incredibly awesome.
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High rise living isn't great if you have kids. They really miss out. It's great for adults, but like most things, it comes down to design.
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^what are kids missing out, exactly?
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^what are kids missing out, exactly?
Makes me wonder as well. Many highrises have playing grounds or are close to parks and if necessary they boast large enough appartements for families. Sound proofing could be a problem though, especially the floors. Kids like to run around a lot.
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^what are kids missing out, exactly?
Space to do stuff. No garden and generally apartments are smaller than the suburban family home. They combined with urban areas which by default have higher crime - just because there are more people. We left our 2 bedroom apartment in London and for same money got a 4 bedroom detached home with an acre of land in the exurbs of South Manchester.
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^but all that is not specific to the highrise, it applies to the vast majority of types of urban collective housing. When I grew up in a P+4 lowrise (ground floor + four more floors) I wasn't having a garden, a nearby forest (or other sorts of nature), protection from crime etc. either. There's a huge lot of stuff between the highrise and the detached house with a garden.
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^but all that is not specific to the highrise, it applies to the vast majority of types of urban collective housing. When I grew up in a P+4 lowrise (ground floor + four more floors) I wasn't having a garden, a nearby forest (or other sorts of nature), protection from crime etc. either. There's a huge lot of stuff between the highrise and the detached house with a garden.
I've lived in apartments also. A luxury 2 bedroom apartment in Kensington, London, a huge 4 bedroom 4 bathroom apartment in Moscow and a nice refurbished industrial building in Sheffield... So I've seen the good side of highrise / apartment living.

I would like a super luxury apartment on the 122nd floor, but you get an epic view and marble bathrooms...But if I had a limited budget I'd rather avoid the cheap apartments and have a house somewhere even if its a terrace house. A small cheap apartment is such a cage to exist in.
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I like having a garden and greenery around me so no. I think most people do.
I always lived in such a neighborhood and one question always bothered me: how do people live with cats and dogs in high rises? For dogs I can somehow understand ,you can walk them out. But I got used to my cats going freely around the hood, socialising with other cats and something like that doesn't seem possible in a large building. Such view is further strengthened by the example of my highrise living friend whose cat never met another cat. That must be horrible.
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I recently moved in to a high rise building in downtown Kansas City, MO. The building is 14 floors and I live on the 4th floor. It has some neat amenities such as a secure garage, gym, rooftop indoor pool with lounge area, security, concierge service and so on. My particular unit is a 450 square foot studio. I moved from a 2 bedroom house with a yard and garage. I will say that the studio is designed fairly smart and uses that 450 square foot efficiently as to not waste space. I have lived here 4 months now and I have to say I love it!

The good:
-Convenient amenities
-The view
-No yard to keep up
-Virtually no maintenance
-Low utilities/efficient
-Close to a lot of great restaurants/shops/entertainment in downtown
-Just a few blocks from the new KC street car and there is a bus stop behind my building.

The bad:
-Less space for the same amount of money in my case-I had to downsize and get rid of some furniture.
-No private garage to keep tools or work on my car.
-My building does not have the best outdoor space, I miss my little patio and quiet back yard at times but I suppose now the city is my back yard!

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My view:

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