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Old March 29th, 2005, 11:02 AM   #1
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Northern BC Developments

Prince Rupert is a tiny city on the North Coast of British Columbia. Located near the mouth of the Skeena River, it is the closest port to Asia in North America. Added to the fact that the natural port is North America's deepest and northermost ice-free port, it is expanding to be able to capacitate shipping containers.

The city was known for the abundant amount of halibut caught back in the 50s and 60s, I believe, but now, it is known as Canada's wettest city, with more precipitation and least chance of lightning striking the ground than any other weather station in Canada.

Prince Rupert's tallest building is the Highliner Inn, with 17 floors. It used to be the tallest building in BC north of Greater Vancouver before taller buildings were erected in Kelowna. The Coast Prince Rupert Hotel boasts 6 levels. The other tall building (for a city its size) is an eleven-storey apartment building, not in the downtown core.

City population (2001): 14 000
CA population (2001): 16 000
Regional population (including Queen Charlottes): upwards 30 000











For the past few decades, the economy of Prince Rupert has been on a downturn, but new projects, including the creation and expansion of the port to become a container port to help ease the load of Vancouver's port, and a stopover for cruise ship, is expected to turn around the depression.

The container port is expected to handle over 1.2 million TEUs per annum when fully completed. The location of the port is strategic: it is the shortest route from the US Midwest to Asia. This will benefit cities along the route of the railroad, such as Prince George, Edmonton, and Winnipeg.

Here's an image for the approximate location of the new container port:



Some of you may be wondering why I'm posting pictures of such a tiny city that is probably not known to anyone. I just wanted to portray some of the scenery that is not found in larger cities, and just give info on the city that I have resided in for over 9 years. Take note that none of the pictures taken are mine, however, if I do get time (and providing it ever clears out of the clouds here), I will try to take and post up pictures of the city.

So, what think of this small and peaceful city?
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Old March 29th, 2005, 10:23 PM   #2
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I think that Prince Rupurt is poised for some significant growth. However I think most of the distribution will be handled out of Edmonton.
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Old March 29th, 2005, 11:47 PM   #3
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Prince Rupert makes Vancouver look dry - its gets sooo much rain. I'd rather live in Prince George and take my chances with the cold. lol
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Old March 30th, 2005, 12:17 AM   #4
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there's a lot of potential in this town.
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Old March 30th, 2005, 12:17 AM   #5
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Is the population finally growing again?
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Old March 30th, 2005, 12:34 AM   #6
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Is the population finally growing again?
I think it is still decreasing but hopefully it will turn around soon. Wouldn't it be cool for Canada to finally have more than one significant west coast city?
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Old March 30th, 2005, 02:40 AM   #7
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I don't think its silly at all posting a forum on a smaller city. Cities come in all shapes and sizes, that what makes them so interesting.
I hear the downtown is quite cute. I think things are finally turning around for Prince Rupert but I could never live there, way too much rain.
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Old March 30th, 2005, 04:22 AM   #8
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very nice. i've never been there but have been elsewhere on that coast, very interesting. I think it is in canada's best interests to have a second west coast city, and charles hayes (i think that's his name) probably would have had it this way if he hadn't gone down with the titanic (CN/at the time GNR i think vs. gov't funded CP)
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Old March 30th, 2005, 06:21 AM   #9
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Bergen, Norway gets an average of 1,930mm of precipitation each year.

Prince Rupert gets an average of 2,593mm of precip each year.

So it's only a little worse than Bergen, Norway.
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Old March 30th, 2005, 06:56 AM   #10
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I think it is still decreasing but hopefully it will turn around soon. Wouldn't it be cool for Canada to finally have more than one significant west coast city?
Heh, hopefully. Prince Rupert's gone nowhere but down the past few years, with Skeena Cellulose shutting its operations and all.

However, besides the Port expansion, I'm doubting VERY FEW businesses will relocate in Prince Rupert. There used to be franchises of A & W, Pizza Hut, Dairy Queen, and KFC here. They all left, leaving behind McDonald's and Subway.

As well, City Councillors who think of nothing but their own interests, stopped the growth of large chain stores like Canadian Tire from moving into the city. Instead, Home Hardware and Rona gets to stay as it is considered "local business".

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I don't think its silly at all posting a forum on a smaller city. Cities come in all shapes and sizes, that what makes them so interesting.
I hear the downtown is quite cute. I think things are finally turning around for Prince Rupert but I could never live there, way too much rain.
Besides the downtown, Cow Bay is quite neat as well. I mean, where else can you find holstein-pattern dumpsters!
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Old March 30th, 2005, 10:18 AM   #11
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hi all! i'm originally from rupert! wow, looking at those pictures brings back...special times? yeah, i lived there for about 16 yrs and i'm 17 now...wow...
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Old March 30th, 2005, 10:28 AM   #12
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I think the port expansion will be a great thing. Remember they are talking about an expansion that will see the Port of PR handle more than Van currently handles.
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Old March 30th, 2005, 10:20 PM   #13
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I think the future expansion of the container port will not only benefit Prince George and Edmonton, but also Grande Prairie as well. I already know that it's a bitch having to send grain and other agricultural products from the Peace Region to Vancouver to be shipped across the Pacific. Same goes for oil and natural gas, both of which are being widely exploited (it's actually going nuts out there right now) in the Peace.

It's not just the forestry industry being in the dodrums that's causing PR to go down economically. There is a moratorium against offshore oil drilling in the North Coast region. I believe it's due to environmental concerns, which is understandable. However, technology, high oil prices and other economic pressures will eventually end this moratorium within 10-15 years, maybe sooner. The fishing industry's also been hard hit, too.

Now...if the late Charles Melville Hays, president of the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway from 1910-1912, hadn't gone on board the Titanic, Prince Rupert would very likely be much bigger than it is today. PR might have been probably at least the size of Prince George by now, which has about 77,000 people. Or as many as over 100,000.

Hays was proposing a hotel in PR even bigger than the CP Empress Hotel in Victoria, BC. It was to have been a 12-storey hotel, but with the massive roof on top, as tall as a 14-15-storey building. It was to have 450 rooms.

The Chateau Prince Rupert as sketched by the architect Francis Rattenbury.


Holy cow...!


Unfortunately, all that's in the place of the proposed hotel is a mall built in the 1970s, or so I read.

I read that there was a huge fire on the waterfront in 1972 and that it never recovered. Is this the very same waterfront?

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Old March 31st, 2005, 04:22 AM   #14
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Something that honestly bugs me about Prince Rupert is the name; I don't hate it but I maybe a different name would attract more attention? Even Prince George is a better name. Just IMHO.
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Old March 31st, 2005, 04:32 AM   #15
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Unfortunately, all that's in the place of the proposed hotel is a mall built in the 1970s, or so I read.

I read that there was a huge fire on the waterfront in 1972 and that it never recovered. Is this the very same waterfront?
yeah, there is a ugly ugly mall where the hotel was supposed to go. but there used to be a huge park, i think it was called CN Park (way before my time) and it got run down, but then people tried to save it, clean it up, restore some of the attractions in the park, but it couldn't be saved. the mall is about 30yrs old and it has no windows and it's grey. and just down the hill is where the fire was. it was massive.

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http://www.princerupert.ca/tourism/gfx/mall4_t.jpg
http://www.princerupert.ca/tourism/gfx/mall2_t.jpg
http://www.princerupert.ca/tourism/gfx/mall1_t.jpg
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Old March 31st, 2005, 06:45 AM   #16
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Well welcome to the forums, it is good to have another northern BC'er representing the forums. I lived in Prince George for about 14 years and just recently moved to do an engineering degree on the east coast. Prince Rupert has great potential if the port is marketed properly. I know that CN is upgrading there mainline this year to accomidate the double stacked container cars, and I believe that edmonton will be building or has built a new intermodal facility in edmonton, so this will benifit not only rupert but northern BC and Alberta. I am optimistic, the economy in northern BC is picking up, tonnes of new mining projects and an optimistic business community, Prince George actually saw 134 houses built last year and people are moving back, not to mention that the unemployment rate went from 16.8% in 98 to 6.5% today. Lets pray that the BC liberals can win another term so that they can build on this momentum that was created.
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Old March 31st, 2005, 09:18 AM   #17
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Well welcome to the forums, it is good to have another northern BC'er representing the forums. I lived in Prince George for about 14 years and just recently moved to do an engineering degree on the east coast. Prince Rupert has great potential if the port is marketed properly. I know that CN is upgrading there mainline this year to accomidate the double stacked container cars, and I believe that edmonton will be building or has built a new intermodal facility in edmonton, so this will benifit not only rupert but northern BC and Alberta. I am optimistic, the economy in northern BC is picking up, tonnes of new mining projects and an optimistic business community, Prince George actually saw 134 houses built last year and people are moving back, not to mention that the unemployment rate went from 16.8% in 98 to 6.5% today. Lets pray that the BC liberals can win another term so that they can build on this momentum that was created.
PR will become a major shipping port/gateway to Asia. The purchase of BC Rail by CN was the first step in having a major railway 'connect' the future port. The CN main will transport containers from the port directly to the new intermodal facility constructed in Edmonton. From there, the cargo will continue on the mainline to Chicago and US markets.

The port is currently, or is soon to, being upgraded. The majority of the funding is from a US-based company.

A Liquified Natural Gas facility will also be constructed at Prince Rupert.
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Old March 31st, 2005, 10:08 AM   #18
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MicMiko, can I be greedy and put in a request for a picture of the grain elevator/terminal??

Thanks in advance for anything you can do.
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Old April 1st, 2005, 03:05 AM   #19
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i'll find one for you! i think i might have a picture of it somewhere in this house!


^this is of a ship getting filled. it's actually pretty cool to see them getting loaded up

^the coal port. beside it was a liquid sulpher plant, but it never went into operation, the company went bankrupt. and in the background you can see the district of port edward, it's pretty much a suberb of rupert.

^the grain elevator


^this is the whole area.
okay...well, this is all that i could find online...
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Old April 2nd, 2005, 03:58 AM   #20
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Very cool location. Guess I'll be stopping there for a little while if I take the ferry up to Ketchikan this summer; how far a ride is it from PR?
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