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Old June 3rd, 2005, 08:19 AM   #61
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So I am guessing that the new highrise on the parkade site will have underground public parking for whatever ends up in the old Bay site?
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Old June 3rd, 2005, 05:12 PM   #62
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One would think they'd include more capacity than what the tower and the revamped Bay building will require. Excavation is bloody expensive but if they can get several thousand people to park there over the span of a month then it'll be worthwhile.

Although from a security point of view, underground parkades are meant to be "resident only" for a reason so as to keep potential theives out. Unless they somehow block access to residential parking I don't know if too many people will be keen on sharing their parkade (and for good reason).
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Old June 4th, 2005, 12:59 AM   #63
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Whatever happens at the Bay it would be nice to see something similar to the Astoria go in there. Nice large podium with some commercial and a tall narrow tower on top.

I am surprised that not too much has been announced in the area around the arena since it opened. Anybody know what is up with that narrow lot next to the Jack Davis Building, kiddy corner from the arena? Great location for a hotel with a sports bar downstairs.

A la arena - Read an article in the Vic News saying that things are much farther behind then they should be. Apparently the dressing rooms haven't even been painted yet, just drywall.
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Old June 5th, 2005, 04:28 PM   #64
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A la arena - Read an article in the Vic News saying that things are much farther behind then they should be. Apparently the dressing rooms haven't even been painted yet, just drywall.
I'm suprised Cher didn't go Apeshit! LOL
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Old June 6th, 2005, 03:31 AM   #65
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Any news on when the big Hilton Victoria Casino Complex opens?
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Old June 6th, 2005, 04:51 PM   #66
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Nope, John Asfar is still trying to work the system. Nothing happens until a casino license is granted and thus far the gaming commission isn't giddy about the idea of an independant casino on Great Canadian's turf.
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Old June 7th, 2005, 10:27 PM   #67
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Here's more on the arena parking issue, or non-issue, rather.

The parking crisis that wasn't

Jack Knox
Times Colonist


Tuesday, June 07, 2005

If you go by the theory that artists mirror their audiences, illegal street parking won't be a big issue when Sarah McLachlan plays the new arena tonight.

This is soulful Sarah we're talking about, not Guns 'N' Roses. You won't find a big outlaw element in a McLachlan crowd. Not like some of the wrasslin' fans at the May 29 big WWE show. Their cars were shoehorned along the surrounding roads, right under the "resident parking only" signs. Quick, declare martial law, the anarchists are loose.

"Every street -- Queens, Pembroke, Princess -- was jammed with cars," said resident David Roy. He wasn't happy about either the illegal parking or the constant cruising by arena patrons rubbernecking for an open space.

In the end, the city ticketed 24 cars that afternoon. Sorry, but it's hard to sympathize with anyone who forks out $45 for a WWE ticket, then tries to save a couple of bucks by playing commissionaire roulette.

It's not like there were no alternatives. The parkade at the old Bay building had more than 200 empty spaces that day. At the same time the wrestlers were testing the foundations of the new arena, the City of Victoria's parking boss, Victor Vandenboomen, was at a soccer game a block away at Royal Athletic Park. The fee was only a buck or two, but the Royal Athletic lot was half empty.

It's been the same story since the arena opened. The pay lots that everyone thought would be flooded have yet to fill. You can fit close to 700 cars into the old Bay parkade, but just 180 were there when Rod Stewart opened Save-On-Foods Memorial Centre on March 26. Only 262 parked there for Cher, and 450 for Stars On Ice. The fee depends on who's playing the arena; it's $7 for a top act like McLachlan.

The city tried charging $4 at its Fisgard Street parkade on Rod Stewart night, the idea being that the doubled fee would push customers to its other, more distant lots, easing congestion. But the idea proved too successful; only a handful of vehicles showed up, and the higher event-night fee was subsequently dropped, at least for now.

It's not as if residents of the North Park neighbourhood have been regularly muscled out of the parking spots in front of their homes, either. The complaints linked to the WWE show were an aberration. People have been obeying the parking signs. (This is, after all, Victoria, where laws governing everything from rainy-season lawn-watering to sales of balloon animals are adhered to with nary a bleat of complaint from the flock.)

"Cher, Rod Stewart, even the curling was pretty good," said Roy. "I was surprised." David Brocklesby, chairman of the North Park Neighbourhood Association, said the much-anticipated parking problems have yet to emerge. With transit, car-pooling and free evening parking on downtown streets, people have choices. "It's a non-issue."

Well, not a total non-issue. Some cars were towed during the World Curling Championship, when arena patrons competed for parking with downtown workers and shoppers during the day. But most arena events are at night.

Enforcement of residents-only parking is complaint-driven. A parking-management plan mailed to North Park homes includes a hotline number. Phone it during arena events and the parking police will come calling, ticket pads in hand. So far, residents haven't felt much need to do so. Maybe things will change as different events draw different crowds to the arena. Vandenboomen is keen to see how hockey fans will handle the parking puzzle night after night.

But so far, with one WWE exception, the issue has been Victoria's version of Y2K, the crisis that never happened.

© Times Colonist (Victoria) 2005
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Old June 7th, 2005, 11:24 PM   #68
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I live on North Park Street which does allow parking after 6:00pm and if there is an event at the arena the block is totally tied up. Unfortuantely our building doesn't have a loading zone for dropping off groceries so you have to carry them from the parking garage but apart from that it has been excellent. More foot traffic in to the evening has definitely pushed down the amount of undesirables around the hood. There used to be a couple of cars broken into every night but I havn't seen one in a couple of weeks. So I say let the parking turmoil continue.
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Old June 8th, 2005, 02:34 AM   #69
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You live on north park street? I know of two other forumers who live on north park street.
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Old June 8th, 2005, 06:14 AM   #70
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North Park, guerrero? You don't say...
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Old June 8th, 2005, 04:41 PM   #71
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Yup! In that building that just got remediated next to Flynn Printing. Not too bad an area now. And a ten minute walk towork each day. Got to love it.
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Old June 8th, 2005, 06:18 PM   #72
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i'm not too sure what area that is in. is it near hillside ave? ...
oh, i'm moving to burton avenue beside sears at the end of the month. cool eh?
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Old June 9th, 2005, 04:35 AM   #73
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So Guerrero it sounds to me like you live exactly in the same building as the two other Victoria forumers that live on your street. Thats incredibly weird.. I think that your building must have the densest concentration of forumers in the world.

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OK, I've tracked you down...... actually, he lives one block up from us, but I have several friends in his building (and one ex-girlfriend living there temporarily, you know her Koz), and it was built by one of the same developers as my building......

Guerrero, are you in the townhouses or the condo tower?
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Old June 9th, 2005, 05:13 AM   #75
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is there a main street around there because i have no idea where it is unless there is a main street involved. i'm guessing around hillside???
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Old June 9th, 2005, 05:26 AM   #76
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Jarrod, think Quadra Street and Johnson, northeastern downtown. North Park is the neighbourhood where the arena sits. Hillside is about 2km north from there.

VHF: ok gotcha.
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In the townhouses. Just moved in a year ago. I think the building looks pretty cool now. Better then before. So you guys are down in that building with the perpetual fence around it eh?

North Park Neighbourhood Association I beleive defines itself as bordered by Blanshard, Bay, Cook and Pandora. I guess the town part would be cook street. There was word last year that it would get a face lift like Quadra village but I haven't heard anything in awhile.
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Old June 9th, 2005, 07:08 AM   #78
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Cool, thanks for the clear-up VHF. Its good to know where my forumers are.
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ahhh, okay! i know where that is now.
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In the townhouses. Just moved in a year ago. I think the building looks pretty cool now. Better then before. So you guys are down in that building with the perpetual fence around it eh?

North Park Neighbourhood Association I beleive defines itself as bordered by Blanshard, Bay, Cook and Pandora. I guess the town part would be cook street. There was word last year that it would get a face lift like Quadra village but I haven't heard anything in awhile.
Ya, our remediation took forever, still ongoing. My meter is still running at $31k.

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A good friend of mine used to own the (highest-ceiling) penthouse up at 930, P1, he got out just in time, made some kind of good $ on the transaction......and bought a nice house up on Grant.....another good friend owns on the 3rd floor.
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