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Old February 22nd, 2008, 09:39 PM   #301
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how can they start construction before knowing the designs??
I believe the "construction" going on currently is just load testing not the actual construction per se.
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 04:54 AM   #302
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besides not being the first
at least that's what different sites suggest while googling for it. clicky

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I had read earlier that there will be a station design competition. This Hong Kong firm Townland was the winner in this competition?
possibly but lets wait till we get some confirmation.

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http://www.townland.com/index.htm
I checked the Townland website and there was no information available on Mumbai Metro railway
Design firms don't just release their designs after they're designed. Give it some time. Most of firms upload info+designs only after they're selected.

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I believe the "construction" going on currently is just load testing not the actual construction per se.
^ yeah plus constructing the stations isn't that time intensive as constructing the piers+viaduct are. Take the Bangalore metro for example. Civil work started in Apr 07 while work on the stations still has to begin.
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 05:31 AM   #303
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at least that's what different sites suggest while googling for it. clicky
first metro in nyc. not first in the world
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 07:50 AM   #304
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first metro in nyc. not first in the world
My bad. I didn't read the word 'world'.
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 04:53 PM   #305
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Old February 24th, 2008, 07:14 AM   #306
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as if anyone cares the first metro was in ldn not decades but more than a century ago.The metropolitnl line(as it is known) is still creaking & whining away.I (being realy ancient) can still remember it when it had wooden interiors, decades ago.Grand it were.great news about mumbai.Its all hapenning..
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Old February 24th, 2008, 02:04 PM   #307
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Maharashtra may seek Japanese financial aid for Mumbai Metro

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MUMBAI: With work on the second and third line of the Mumbai Metro project expected to begin later this year, the Maharashtra Government may turn to the Japan Bank for International Co-operation (JBIC) for financial assistance, officials said here.

The 32-km-long second line is expected to link the western suburb Charkop to eastern suburb Mankhurd at a cost of about Rs 6,000 crore, while the 20-km-long third line from Colaba in South Mumbai to suburban Bandra is likely to cost Rs 12,000 crore approximately.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 01:20 AM   #308
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If the second and third line construction begins this year, should we expect all the construction to be completed by 2013?????
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Old February 25th, 2008, 02:16 AM   #309
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first of all they are searching for money... so unless that is ensured, i dont think construction will start...it is just something politicians mouth.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 02:45 AM   #310
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alright..there have been some very interesting developments regarding line 2 and 3. Mr Sreedharan was in Mumbai last week and he advised the MH govt+MMRDA to go the DMRC/BMRC way by not developing the metro (L2,L3) on a private-public-partnership (PPP) model due to different issues. (Read about them here)

Since Line 2 is already in the bidding stage (developer is supposed to be announced in a couple of months), I believe the tendering process will be scrapped. Line 3 was always going to be developed on a non-PPP basis.

BUT the most interesting news is that MMRDA has also reverted back it's original plan by having ONE long line 3 all the way from Colaba (south Mumbai) to Charkop (North Mumbai) instead of having it from Colaba to Bandra where an interchange station is planned. This was due to the obvious connectivity issues at the Bandra station.


So instead of this-
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This is how line 2 and line 3 will look-
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Regarding the choice of JBIC over WB (which was the MH govt's choice), this should should explain it-

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The government has been advised (by Sreedharan) to obtain 50 per cent loan from the Japanese bank and to fund the remaining on its own. The Japanese bank offers loan at 1 per cent interest as opposed to the World Bank’s 8 percent.

So that is the reason why the MH govt is now suddenly looking towards JBIC to fund 50% of the lines. I wonder why the govt can't simply finance the lines by using our forex reserves which stood at $292.86Bn for the week that ended Feb 15?
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Old February 25th, 2008, 03:45 AM   #311
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Is Line 2 anyways going to be connected to Line 1? so that it would be convenient for the people to just change trains for going towards Colaba?
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Old February 25th, 2008, 04:12 PM   #312
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how the hell can china construct metros in like 2 years, but it takes our govt 6 years or more. Why can't it just be like "here is the money, now build metro"?
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You need to ask these questions to the government. You won't find answers for those from us
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Old February 25th, 2008, 05:56 PM   #314
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how the hell can china construct metros in like 2 years, but it takes our govt 6 years or more. Why can't it just be like "here is the money, now build metro"?

we spend a life time in "planning" and making everyone happy..

project management is not our thingy..
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Old February 25th, 2008, 10:24 PM   #315
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A video by IndiansUnite. I am not sure if this has been added.
If it has been, please delete it.
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Old February 26th, 2008, 05:47 AM   #316
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Mumbai Metro: First train to run by July 2010

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Mumbai, February 25: Mumbaiites will finally be able to board their first Metro Rail train by July 2010, according to Mumbai Metro One Private Ltd (MMOPL) Director K P Maheshwari who made a presentation before Chief Secretary Johny Joseph last week.

“In the presentation, Maheshwari said that by November-December 2009, the tests and trials of the trains will begin and in July 2010 Mumbaiites will see a Metro train running,” said a senior government official unwilling to be named.

In an interview to Newsline last week, Maheshwari had said: “Mumbaiites will see a Metro train running in July 2010, we hope.”

Some senior officials of the MMRDA, which is 26 per cent stake holder in MMOPL, are, however, not so sure. “I don’t think it (Metro) will start by July 2010, but October 2010 cannot be ruled out,” an MMRDA official said.

MMOPL is building the first corridor—Versova-Andheri-Ghatkopar—work on which has just started and is scheduled to get over by December 2010.

The state government is planning to redesign the second and third Metro Rail corridors and is also discussing the possibility of dropping the public-private partnership (PPP) model and going for the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) model.

“Since the third corridor (Colaba-Bandra) has huge Viability Gap Funding (VGF) involved, only the DMRC model can be opted for. There was an opinion that after all nine corridors for the Mumbai region are constructed there will be operational issues as there will be different private players who would’ve built a particular corridor. Therefore it’s being discussed that the DMRC model should be opted for,” a senior official said.

About the plans to redesign the second and third corridors, the official said: “The Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd corridor is not viable for commuters. Instead it’s being considered that an uninterrupted Charkop-Colaba route should be constructed while Bandra-Mankhurd should be a separate one.”

The decision on all these “options” is likely in a few days, he said.

On the funding issue, the official confirmed that the nodal agency (MMRDA) may turn to Japan Bank for International Co-operation (JBIC) for financial assistance. “JBIC in principle has agreed to fund the Bandra-Colaba corridor. As the redesigning of the route is being considered, we may ask them to fund other corridors too,” the official said.

JBIC had provided financial assistance for the construction of the Delhi Metro project. The DMRC is acting as a consultant for the Mumbai Metro.

Railway budget today
Wishlist: MUTP phase 2, enhanced passenger safety
* PC Sehgal, managing director, Mumbai Rail Vikas Corporation, said: “I don’t know much about the budget, but I know that in this budget MUTP phase 2 will be sanctioned — hundred per cent. And after this sanction, the suburban train scenario will change totally.”
* Deepak Gandhi, president of Mumbai Suburban Passengers’ Association, has said that the commuters do not expect new rakes or world-class stations, but want safety. “They only want a safe journey — 6-7 passengers die in accidents every day. Our requirements are very limited. At present, in both WR and CR, there are around 2500 suburban services, we want them increased to around 4000. And the time table should be more traffic oriented,” he said.
* Chitrasen Singh, president of Paschhim Railway and Madhya Railway Yatri Sangarsh Samiti, said, “This is our long-pending demand that there should be super-fast trains from Mumbai to Varanasi. Also, there should be a separate fund for the suburban section.”
Source: http://www.expressindia.com/latest-n...y-2010/277114/
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Old February 26th, 2008, 06:05 AM   #317
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^

COOL!!!

But some MMRDA officials say that they are not "sure" about July 2010!!!

If that happens,we can see both BWSL and Metro running at the same time which should definitely loosen some traffic in the suburbs.
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Old February 26th, 2008, 07:35 AM   #318
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Any news on MUTP phase 2 sanctioning in the rail budget????
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Old February 26th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #320
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Metro rail’s road plan irks residents

Tuesday, February 26, 2008

A notice was issued that the acquisition limit was being extended to 120 feet
The on going construction work on the metro railway between Versova-
Andheri-Ghatkopar received a major jolt on Monday, with residents objecting to the administration’s move to extend the acquisition limits from 90 feet to 120 feet.

“We had earlier received letters intimating us about the property acquisition up to 27.45 meters (90 feet). But, today, we were issued a notice to extend the acquisition limit up to 36.60 meters (120 feet),” said Arvind Patil who is one of the 250 metro-affected residents on JP Road.

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