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Old February 21st, 2008, 06:05 AM   #21
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^ Surrey and Burnaby are the most likely candidates. I doubt the Tri-Cities or any of the farm dominated cities would want it, nor would anyone propose it. And definitely not Richmond for the most obvious reasons.

My hope, however, is that it'll be in Vancouver.
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Old March 1st, 2008, 09:59 PM   #22
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^ Surrey and Burnaby are the most likely candidates. I doubt the Tri-Cities or any of the farm dominated cities would want it, nor would anyone propose it. And definitely not Richmond for the most obvious reasons.

My hope, however, is that it'll be in Vancouver.
I could see metrotown area getting a supertall at some point. Surrey too. but why not Richmond! With modern technology almost anything is possible! I'm not crazy about supertall cause they make anything else dwarfish but why not!
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Old March 1st, 2008, 10:07 PM   #23
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I could see metrotown area getting a supertall at some point. Surrey too. but why not Richmond! With modern technology almost anything is possible! I'm not crazy about supertall cause they make anything else dwarfish but why not!
How about the airport?
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How about the airport?
Good point! Still what would be the no build range!? Not the entire city!
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 03:57 AM   #25
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Good point! Still what would be the no build range!? Not the entire city!
No.3 Road/Richmond City Centre is basically Richmond's downtown, and all of that area has height restrictions due to the overhead air traffic from the airport. Build anything tall outside of that area, and it would be just bad planning.
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No.3 Road/Richmond City Centre is basically Richmond's downtown, and all of that area has height restrictions due to the overhead air traffic from the airport. Build anything tall outside of that area, and it would be just bad planning.
Yeah but what about that other thread stating that Richmond pop would triple over the next 25 years. Richmond is very likely to need another CBD probably further south outside the flight corridors. Although you're right, now it would just be terrible planning!
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 03:00 AM   #27
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Yeah but what about that other thread stating that Richmond pop would triple over the next 25 years. Richmond is very likely to need another CBD probably further south outside the flight corridors. Although you're right, now it would just be terrible planning!
The other article said that Richmond City Centre would triple its population, NOT the entire city. The population of Richmond City Centre today is 40,000....in 25 years, they estimate it will be 120,000.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 09:25 AM   #28
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how supertall are we talking here?
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Old March 4th, 2008, 10:09 PM   #29
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A typical commercial storey is around 3.9m while residential/hotel is 3m. Remember they proposed some 80 storey tower in Surrey? If it was half commercial half residential it would've been at least 272m tall, excluding any mechanical penthouses, tall lobbies, etc.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 11:27 PM   #30
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what is it with the obsession for supertalls ..
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Old March 27th, 2008, 12:01 AM   #31
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what is it with the obsession for supertalls ..
I suspect it may have something to do with the whole phallic-ness of the subject, at least for SSC.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 09:13 AM   #32
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Well if BC Place Stadium gets a Retractable Roof and it's the length of the Stadium which is 760 feet, lift that roof up vertically and you've got yourself a structure about 900 feet high!
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A supertall would wreck Vancouver's skyline. The entire skyline would instantly and permanently become less impressive.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 05:04 PM   #34
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LOL--What glasses would you be looking through???
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Old March 28th, 2008, 11:58 PM   #35
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He's talking about relative heights - Vancouver's skyline benefits from the illusion that they are taller than they are.
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Old March 29th, 2008, 07:21 AM   #36
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Love to see three more tall towers ( 800', 750', 700' ) in downtown.
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Old March 29th, 2008, 09:41 AM   #37
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So, assuming that the Metro Core Jobs study concludes with the relaxation of heights in the CBD, what sort of numbers do you all think could be realistically allowed by the City? And do you think it would be a uniformly applied limit across the CBD or roughly follow the current variations in view cones?
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Old March 29th, 2008, 09:48 AM   #38
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In my mind, to make increasing densities worthwhile it would make sense that at least some areas of the CBD would have to see a 100ft increase. This would potentially allow us to have a maximum limit of 700ft plus 70ft for the 10% extra mechanical etc allowance, making 770ft or about 235m. This sort of range would seem like a good fit for the current skyline, though a few taller than that in the long term would be ideal.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 08:32 AM   #39
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Totally agree! you should be the next chief city planner.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 09:07 AM   #40
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Currently the downtown cluster averages 450ft, with everything else around 300 ft.

1- Where 300 ft is currently allowed, it should become 400ft, (except for anywhere within 3 blocks from the perimeter of downtown, so to create a more layered skyline).
2- Where 450 ft is currently allowed, it should become 550ft, with allowances for taller skinnier buildings to peak at 650.
3- The north east waterfront should have no buildings taller than 450' (30 ft shorter than Shaw tower) for at least one block inland.
4-And until the West end and DTES fills up with 300-400 footers, and more 500+ footers are built, anything taller than shangri-la would dwarf the rest of the skyline.

With regards to 3, I think Fairmont Pacific Rim was a mistake. Too big, too fat on the waterfront.
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