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Old March 31st, 2008, 04:25 PM   #41
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I agree with points 1,2, and 3 and point 4 partially. I think there should be some gradation but I don't necessarily think it has to be done first until we build a supertall. i think building a supertall can bring about points 1,2,3 even earlier.

In terms of Pacific Rim, I highly disagree, while the design is nothing special, I am excited about the light installation along the building and the fact that its width breaks up the narrow glass condos on the waterfront.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 12:12 AM   #42
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Without Fairmont


With Fairmont


At any rate, we definitely need taller buildings away from the waterfront to restore the layered look.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 01:43 AM   #43
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The podium for the Fairmont will come up to the height of the crane span in that picture and go until ~50ft of Shaw Tower.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 02:40 AM   #44
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There goes the view of the Marine Building, but more nice towers is always good.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 03:05 AM   #45
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Thar's what I thought when the Fairmont was proposed. Too bad, the Marine Building always added a nice touch to the waterfront.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 10:50 AM   #46
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There goes the view of the Marine Building, but more nice towers is always good.
You think the Fairmont Pacific Rim is a nice tower?

Blocking the view of a classic tower like the Marine Building is unconscionable, especially since it was one of Vancouver's first symbols of commerce and economic influence. Fairmont Pacific Rim is nothing but a symbol of mediocrity. It's even uglier than then new convention centre. But that's what you get when you let greedy, philistine developers cannibalise the city. Oh well. At least we have chai lattes, yoga mats, and world-famous Robson Street.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 01:05 PM   #47
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great shot, dleung. vancouver's beautiful, simply beautiful.....
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Old July 12th, 2008, 10:35 PM   #48
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The Marine Tower should have been 50 stories...that would be cool!
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Old July 13th, 2008, 05:08 AM   #49
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Yes it would be nice and would make somebody happy that it wouldn't be blocked by the "ugliest" fairmont tower!

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Old July 13th, 2008, 05:14 AM   #50
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I hate the fairmont too. The scale doesn't match Vancouver, and it's quite fat for residential. Either make it 100 feet taller, or 100 feet shorter... having it almost the same height as Shaw tower looks obscene. The city needs to loosen up with the planning regulations and use a bit of athestic judgement. And I have to agree that architecture is quite absent in this building... you just have to look at all the yellow building paper wrapping around the 5 storey podium (that means those areas are not glazed but solid).

Fairmont's fatness will make our skyline look smaller in the same way Toronto's harbourfront commie blocks obscure the true size of their downtown... I actually won't mind if a small astroid destroyed the thing, and we have to wait another 3 years for a better building to come up on the site, that's how much I don't like it.

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Old July 13th, 2008, 05:36 AM   #51
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I don't particularly like it but I don't hate it either. It is just another not so tall building to me. I thought fairmont is more of a hotel than a condo, am I wrong?
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Old July 14th, 2008, 12:42 AM   #52
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the fairmont under construction is a luxury condo - prices are in the millions

heavily marketed outside of vancouver - have seen ads in some US magazines
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Old July 14th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #53
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I think the view of the Marine Building is preserved from Brockton Point (or somewhere else along the Stanley Park seawall) to the Marine Building (as opposed to the seabus or wherever the above pic was taken from).
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great shot, dleung. vancouver's beautiful, simply beautiful.....
Not for too long.
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I hate the fairmont too. The scale doesn't match Vancouver, and it's quite fat for residential. Either make it 100 feet taller, or 100 feet shorter... having it almost the same height as Shaw tower looks obscene. The city needs to loosen up with the planning regulations and use a bit of athestic judgement. And I have to agree that architecture is quite absent in this building... you just have to look at all the yellow building paper wrapping around the 5 storey podium (that means those areas are not glazed but solid).

Fairmont's fatness will make our skyline look smaller in the same way Toronto's harbourfront commie blocks obscure the true size of their downtown... I actually won't mind if a small astroid destroyed the thing, and we have to wait another 3 years for a better building to come up on the site, that's how much I don't like it.
I'll join you in saying a prayer for an asteroid. One of the last, and most visible, areas on the waterfront is now permanently scarred. I wonder how many women they have on the Urban Design Panel. If it's all, or mostly men, then I can understand why this is happening. We need some women on there with some keen design sense to counteract all this gaudiness.

Will there be any redeeming qualities on street level? I think I read somewhere that there will be some kind of electronic billboard? There needs to be something down there to compensate not only for the hideous design overall, but for blocking some of the nicest views from the street.

This project, and many like it, give nothing back to Vancouverites. And can you imagine people coming to Vancouver, thinking how beautiful it is, only to walk around downtown and see this thing, and the convention centre, blocking everything at street level? Never again can we just walk along Hastings and catch a quick glimpse of the water and mountains, a view that reminds us just what makes (or made) Vancouver different from other cities.

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Old July 15th, 2008, 10:27 AM   #56
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Not for too long.
Cheer up! the natural beauty of Vancouver won't get destroyed by just one "not so tall" builing!
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Old July 15th, 2008, 09:01 PM   #57
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I don't mind the Fairmont and yer all right, the marine is a beautiful building.

If they ever built a supertall I would want it at the entrance of Stanly Park and the causeway. Would it be out of place?..yes. Would it add anything to the area?.............no. Would it look horrible?..yes. So would it have an endearing qualities?...........only one. It would hid that god awful piece of crap {and I can think of much better words} that they allowed to be built. Yes I'm talking about that ugly bunkerr house with that dreadful mural...........anyone have a spare nuke?
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Old July 16th, 2008, 04:14 AM   #58
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That's been taken care of already:

Laguna Parkside

In the owner's defense, he built his little tower assuming future buildings will butt against it, hence the blank wall that needed the ugly mural.
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Old July 16th, 2008, 05:42 AM   #59
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that mural wasn't too bad

i didn't know it was one single dwelling for a long time - the wedding chapel threw me off i guess - lol
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Old July 16th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #60
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I think it was built by Macau casino mogul Stanley Ho. Clearly it intended for something to be built against it tho. It doesn't look out of place now beside those luxury condos.
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