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Old August 13th, 2014, 06:11 PM   #1381
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Brazil presidential candidate Campos 'in plane crash'

A plane reportedly carrying the Brazilian presidential candidate Eduardo Campos has crashed in a residential area of the port city of Santos, in Brazil's Sao Paulo state.

The plane was frequently used by Mr Campos who is running for president for the Brazilian Socialist Party (PSB).

Party members said he was on board at the time of the crash.

Firefighters said there were 10 "victims" but did not clarify if the 10 were injured or dead.

Friends and colleagues of Mr Campos said they were "very worried" by the fact they had not been able to make contact with Mr Santos since the crash.

PSB member Rodrigo Rollemberg said Eduardo Campos had been on board the plane along with his wife Renata, and his son Miguel.

According to Mr Rollemberg, two assistants and a film-maker were also travelling with Mr Campos.

A police spokeswoman told the AFP news agency that there were "fatalities but we still do not have a number confirmed".

Locals said the sky was cloudy and it was raining at the time of the crash.

Police and emergency workers are at the scene in Santos, which is located 70km (43 miles) south-east of Sao Paulo.

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Old August 19th, 2014, 06:40 PM   #1382
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Two Italian Tornado's have collided in the air and crashed. The fate of the pilots is unknown


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MH17: Russia tried to shoot an own Aeroflot aircraft for creating a CASUS BELLI against Ukraine:


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Old August 29th, 2014, 09:11 PM   #1385
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OMG!!! Thatīs evil if it is true.
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Old August 29th, 2014, 11:01 PM   #1386
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It's the sad reality of such conflicts, the propaganda machines of both sides working overtime to make the other side look bad. Which makes it even more difficult to find out what actually happened. A truly independent investigation is already almost impossible because the crash site is a war zone. With both sides spinning their truth around it will still be very difficult to find out what really happened when it does become safe enough to continue the investigation on site.

Which is very frustrating because it's pretty much clear that MH-17 was shot down by separatists without enough training to properly operate such a system and consequently mistook the Malaysian airliner for an Ukrainian military plane. It's much easier to shoot down any plane then to shoot down a specific plane. Even as a mistake it's still a crime, but it's not as political as both sides want to make it.

Hopefully time will tell what really happened, the families of the victims deserve to know the truth.
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