The roadside rest area

[italystf]

Originally Posted by Verso

Why will Andorra have the old EU15 on their coins?

They will have the new (post 2007) map. Images above are just drawings, not real pics.
Also Latvia will issue its eurocoins since 2014.
Unfortunately I think they will be very difficult to find here in Italy. I only found two Sammarinese coins in 11 years, none from Monaco and none from Estonia. Vatican 50-cents dated 2010-11-12 appear in circulation relatively often and they aren't particularily rare.

[italystf]

Originally Posted by keber

Ads are not so profitable as many think. Also, it is their choice, not yours, you have also other options for uploading pictures.

Facebook, Google, Twitter, Youtube and such are still free for users and they make a shitload of money with ads.

[g.spinoza]

Just received with the mail a speeding ticket

Spot is most likely this:
http://goo.gl/maps/BjIZ8

54 euro for going 85 where 70 is the limit.

[Road_UK]

That's not so bad. You'd pay three times as much in Holland.

[ChrisZwolle]

The fine would be € 85 in the Netherlands for driving 15 km/h over the limit on non-urban roads.

[Attus]

The fine would be 0 euro in Hungary for the same action. However, for breaking the limit by 16 km/h, the fine is 30,000 forint, approx. 100 euro.

[g.spinoza]

Originally Posted by Road_UK

That's not so bad. You'd pay three times as much in Holland.

Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle

The fine would be € 85 in the Netherlands for driving 15 km/h over the limit on non-urban roads.

Considering tolerances and other factors, I was sanctioned for going 80 (just 10 km/h over the limit), although recorded speed was 85.

That section of the road (SS11 Padana Superiore) is really tricky, because general limit is 90 but just before the tunnel it is reduced to 70 (where the trap is placed) and then 50 in the tunnel. I just couldn't brake fast enough.

[bogdymol]

In Romania the fine would be ~18 € (if you pay in max. 48 hours), or 37-55 € if you pay later.

Originally Posted by Attus

The fine would be 0 euro in Hungary for the same action. However, for breaking the limit by 16 km/h, the fine is 30,000 forint, approx. 100 euro.

Isn't in Hungary allowed +10% of the speed limit? So at speed limit of 70 km/h, you get a fine only after you pass 77 km/h.

[Attus]

Originally Posted by bogdymol

Isn't in Hungary allowed +10% of the speed limit? So at speed limit of 70 km/h, you get a fine only after you pass 77 km/h.

No, it is not defined in percent but in km/h. Tolerance is 15 km/h up to 100, and 20 km/h over 100 km/h. It means that at a speed limit of 30 km/h (e.g. in front of a school) you can drive at 44.5 km/h and you won't be fined.

[bogdymol]

And I was scared and drove with max 54 km/h inside villages near the Romanian border, while I could have done 64 km/h.

Are you sure it's like that? Because in the past I heard it's 10%.

[Attus]

Originally Posted by bogdymol

Are you sure it's like that?

Absolutely.
However, if police stops you in the field (which may only happen if you have some other problem as well, e.g. you drive without lights in the night), then you may be fined even for a very slight speeding (limit + 4 km/h).

[Rebasepoiss]

Originally Posted by g.spinoza

Just received with the mail a speeding ticket

Spot is most likely this:
http://goo.gl/maps/BjIZ8

54 euro for going 85 where 70 is the limit.

In Estonia that would be a fine of €33. If you get caught in a speed-trap, the fine is €3 for every km/h over the speed limit and 4km/h is detracted from the recorded speed due to tolerances. Anything below 7km/h over the limit isn't even recorded.

[Wilhem275]

In Italy it's -5 km/h up to 100, then 5%.

Those machines today are precise, so if one gets a ticket for doing 85, he was doing 85; then he'll be fined for doing 80.

Given the -5 rule, plus the error of cars' speedometer, you can keep slightly under 10 km/h over the limit with no worries, at least outside town. Let's say the needle should not touch the next step.

To be fined in a 50 zone with my Passat, I should do at least 61 according to the speedometer.

[keber]

Car speedometers are mostly quite precise in the region around 50 km/h and less. Above 100 km/h however precision varies quite a lot. I was fined once for going 99 in 80 km/h zone, my speedometer was targeted exactly on 100 with cruise control.

[Suburbanist]

Speedometer visual precision varies among models/makers as well. At least that is what I got from checking speed info from GPS readings (using different cars with cruise control)

[Rebasepoiss]

It also depends on the size of the wheel and the tyre profile etc.

When I was in Italy we drove a Fiant Grande Punto and when we were doing 130km/h according to the GPS, the speedometer showed 140+km/h.