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Old March 29th, 2017, 04:50 AM   #121
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I am quite impressed the number of old churches in Malaysia. It would be nice if anybody could share the interior of a beautifully furnished church. This is something I thought I only get to see in Europe or Manila, the very least.

Please enlighten me, why do many churches in the city area are on top of shoplots? I believe they have to pay the monthly rental as well. How do they generate revenue to sustain the church establishment in a premise that meant for commercial purpose? Are they exempted from paying city tax?
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Old March 29th, 2017, 12:45 PM   #122
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I am quite impressed the number of old churches in Malaysia. It would be nice if anybody could share the interior of a beautifully furnished church. This is something I thought I only get to see in Europe or Manila, the very least.

Please enlighten me, why do many churches in the city area are on top of shoplots? I believe they have to pay the monthly rental as well. How do they generate revenue to sustain the church establishment in a premise that meant for commercial purpose? Are they exempted from paying city tax?
I don't know for sure but I was told that no new permits for church buildings (or rather non-Muslim places of worship) are allowed any more. IINM you can register a new church but not a church building. So the loophole is renting a commercial premise. All the churches that look like churches here are old, and date back to at least the 70s.

There is a very famous case of the Church of the Divine Mercy in Shah Alam having to wait 20 years for approval after being rejected countless times. The reason given was that Shah Alam was a Muslim majority area which did not need a church. Even after approval, it was told that the building must not 'look like a church', but must look like a factory instead.


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Old March 29th, 2017, 02:22 PM   #123
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I am quite impressed the number of old churches in Malaysia. It would be nice if anybody could share the interior of a beautifully furnished church. This is something I thought I only get to see in Europe or Manila, the very least.

Please enlighten me, why do many churches in the city area are on top of shoplots? I believe they have to pay the monthly rental as well. How do they generate revenue to sustain the church establishment in a premise that meant for commercial purpose? Are they exempted from paying city tax?
My dad worked in a church and he basically said that it is basically next to impossible to build a new church in west malaysia. I mean, it still does happen, but it's obvious that they(the people in power) do not want to have to many church buildings in the country for obvious reasons.
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My dad worked in a church and he basically said that it is basically next to impossible to build a new church in west malaysia. I mean, it still does happen, but it's obvious that they(the people in power) do not want to have to many church buildings in the country for obvious reasons.

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Old April 10th, 2017, 12:50 PM   #125
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For a small town, Mantin N9 has an impressive Catholic church.
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Old April 10th, 2017, 08:43 PM   #126
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My dad worked in a church and he basically said that it is basically next to impossible to build a new church in west malaysia. I mean, it still does happen, but it's obvious that they(the people in power) do not want to have to many church buildings in the country for obvious reasons.
Back when I was a kid there was a church occupying a semi-D in my Taman. The church could not get a permit even though it owned a piece of land. Later the government shut it down and it moved to Singapore over at Woodlands. Malaysia, you know.
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Back when I was a kid there was a church occupying a semi-D in my Taman. The church could not get a permit even though it owned a piece of land. Later the government shut it down and it moved to Singapore over at Woodlands. Malaysia, you know.
Sometimes it's difficult to even get a permit to build a new church building on existing church land.
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Old April 11th, 2017, 02:52 PM   #129
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Fudge, I had no idea erecting even the simplest of churches would be such a hassle in Malaysia.Hope it'll get easier in the near future tho.

On a similar note, it has been quite a while since I've ever seen a church in person since I live in KB now.I guess the factor would be the considerably lower percentage of Christians in Kelantan.
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Fudge, I had no idea erecting even the simplest of churches would be such a hassle in Malaysia.Hope it'll get easier in the near future tho.

On a similar note, it has been quite a while since I've ever seen a church in person since I live in KB now.I guess the factor would be the considerably lower percentage of Christians in Kelantan.
That's strange. Every town which dates back to pre-independence times should at least have a church as the British 'promoted' it. Look closer, in the old quarters. My grandma used to teach in KB and she remembered attending a church there.
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That's strange. Every town which dates back to pre-independence times should at least have a church as the British 'promoted' it. Look closer, in the old quarters. My grandma used to teach in KB and she remembered attending a church there.
Well,I'm quite an introvert outside of my personal and educational life so gallivanting around even in KB itself if that explains anything.But now that you mentioned it, I remember seeing a neon cross hanging on the facade of a building next to a Hindu "temple"(it really isn't design wise, similar to the church, another shop house serving as a religious institution).I see it every time I drove on the elevated road....and that one time I went to Domino's pizza across the road.
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