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Old January 16th, 2008, 10:53 PM   #1
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[Croatia] - Javni prijevoz | Public transportation

For all the discussions about Zagreb Public transport - Railway, Trams, future Metro/Light Rail, Buses, Funicular, Cable car etc.





For the first post, a C/P from the Infrastructure and Mobility/Subways and Urban Transport Forum. If Ivan is still here, he might post the bus part.

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Zagreb PT consists of:

a) Trams
b) Buses
c) Suburban rail
d) A funicular
e) A gondola

Trams, the funicular and the gondola to the Sljeme mtn. above Zagreb are operated by ZET (Zagrebački električni tramvaj; Zagreb Electric Tram; www.zet.hr), suburban rail is operated by HŽ (Hrvatske željeznice; Croatian Railways; www.hznet.hr). all city buses are operated by ZET, while suburban buses can be operated by some private companies, too.

First part of this report will be rail vehicles: suburban rail, trams and the funicular.

Suburban rail

Suburban rail is operated by the 6 111 series of the HŽ EMU's. Currently, there are 21 of them, and they usually drive solo, rarely can they be seen coupled (because not all the stations are long enough, yet). They run mostly E-W through the city.















Not all stations and trains are so nice (infact, few are), but the situation is improving, with rebuilding (and prolonging) the stations, and modernizing the trains. Lately a lot has been said about buying new trains (which is an urgent need), but nothing specific yet.

Among the railfans, the trains are called "Mađar" (The Hungarian), because they've been produced by Ganz Mavag in Budapest.


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First electric tram was inaugurated 18.8.1910. Currently there are 8 types of trams in operation.

1. Type 101 ("Stojadin"). Produced by ZET/ĐĐ Đuro Đaković, Slavonski Brod, Croatia







In service from 1957 (first prototype 30.4.1951). 31 left, disappearing.

2. Type 201 ("Bik"). Produced by Đuro Đaković, Slavonski Brod, Croatia







In service from 22.1.1974. 18 left.

3. Type 301 - ČKD KT4 ("Katica"). Produced by ČKD Praha, Czech Republic







3a. 351 - ČKD KT4, thyristorized



In service from 1985. 51 in operation.

4. Type 401 - ČKD T4 ("Čeh")

Old livery:



New livery:



Often with commercials:



In service from 31.1.1977. 87 in operation.

5. Type 900. Produced by ĐĐ in the 80's. In service from 23.3.1993. There's only one, the prototype. Mass production never happened.



6. Type 901 - Düwag GT6 ("Genšer"). Came from Mannheim (Germany) in the 90's. There are two types. 5 trams called GT6 "Mannheimer" are slightly different (and include airconditioning ) - second picture








15 + 5 left. Disappearing.

7. Type 2100 ("Nova 17"). Produced by Končar (Zagreb, Croatia) from 1994, prototype 2101 (1994.) slightly differs from the rest of the series. These trams derived from the Type 201.











In service from 1994. 16 in operation.

8. Type 2200. Produced by Crotram consortium (Končar + TŽV Gredelj, Zagreb, Croatia).

















( Picture by NT2200 - http://www.zeljeznice.net/forum/view...ghlight=#79617 )

In service from 2005. Currently 71 in operation (of 140 ordered)

These have been ALL the types used in Zagreb. I haven't mentioned the museum trams and the scrapped prototypes (if there will be an interest, tell me )

The typical tram station in Zagreb looks like this:





Some misc photos:

Two Czechs:



Usual traffic in the city (cars everywhere, disturbing the tram traffic )




95% of the tracks in the streets look like this:





Mostly in a good condition, some parts need repairing, though.

The funicular

It is the shortest funicular in the world, connecting the Gornji grad (Upper town) with Ilica St.







edit. picture DSC_3104.jpg is not from 2007, but from 2006, my bad

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The Ex-Sljeme gondola! - Nekadašnja žičara Sljeme

Built in 1963. Napravljena 1963.





Nice views to the city:




Gradnja nove bi trebala početi ove godine, i to bi trebalo izgledati nekako ovako:





Photos: Leitner

S tim da mi "miriši" da bi posao mogao dobiti austrijski Doppelmayr.

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Parada povodom 70 isporučenih tramvaja, lipanj 2007:

























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Odlicno Snupix
Osobno nisam neki preveliki ljubitelj ZGB prevoznih sredstava ,al lijepo ih je sve vidjeti na jednom okupu !
Odlican pocetak dretve ,...moram priznati da nisam ni znao koliko vrsta tramvaja imamo u gradu
Ko klinac sam se najvise volio voziti u Biku
Nadam se da ce ova dretva obuhvatiti i sve vijesti koje se ticu naseg zmaja iz Helsinkija



Jedna moja prigodna ...neznam kak se zove ovaj model??
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Photos from the installed Atron - Motorola Dimetra-IP system for passenger informing:






















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Jedna moja prigodna ...neznam kak se zove ovaj model??
THX... Ova tvoja prigodna je fenomenalna

Na tvojoj slici je stari M-24.
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Na ovom linku možete naći baš sve što bi Vas moglo zanimati o ZG tramvaju, pa čak i koji ima koju reklamu i je li plavi ili krem-plavi:

http://www.zeljeznice.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5317


Samo ću (s tog linka) prenijeti jednu sliku tramvaja kojeg više nema:


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Sad bash malo gledam i nije mi jasno ,kaj nije bik imao neke zute crte naprijed u obliku nekog slova? Koliko se cesto farbaju nasi tramvaji ,posto vidim na fotkama da im se boja presijava?
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Živjela nam nova dretva!

Odlično... vidim snupix sumiral si stvari s dretve u Subways and Urban Transport sekciji .
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Gore piše da je ostao 31 stojadin, međutim sad ih je još samo desetak.

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Sad bash malo gledam i nije mi jasno ,kaj nije bik imao neke zute crte naprijed u obliku nekog slova? Koliko se cesto farbaju nasi tramvaji ,posto vidim na fotkama da im se boja presijava?
Da, prije rekonstrukcije križanja Ilica - Frankopanska (i još nekih križanja ja mislim) je postojao problem s mimoilaženjem dvaju tramvaja i brkovi su služili tome da se označi da se ta dva tramvaja ne mogu mimoići. Česi su još imali trokutić unutra. Jedno je značilo da su krajevi previše izbočeni, drugo da je trbuh previše izbočen, ali ne znam točno što je bilo što.
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Živjela nam nova dretva!

Odlično... vidim snupix sumiral si stvari s dretve u Subways and Urban Transport sekciji .



Evo jednog Bika s brkovima:

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Ne znam porijeklo ovih fotki.

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Moram priznati da sam zatecen ovako opsirnim informacijama i hrpom fotki
Zbilja nisam uopce pratio povijest ZET-a i njegov razvoj i nemam pojma da imamo toliko vrsta tramvaja ??
Razvoj mreze i tramvaja je zbilja zadivljujuci !
Steta sto i neki drugi segmenti ovog grada nisu pratili takav nivo razvoja...vjerovatno bi danas bili prava metropola !
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Evo jednog Bika s brkovima:

Njega se sjecam..kad sam bio klinac isao sam kod bake iz Dubrave u Rudeš i uvijek sam se furao sa takvim tramvajem ..obavezno je imao 3 vagona
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Not really Zagreb transport, but anyway: Zagreb lent one tram to Helsinki for testing, the Finns are said to be very interested in the Crotram, and so far they are satisfied with the test results which showed better than the current (built by former ADtranz, later Bombardier Transportation, now Stadler Rail AG) Variotrams. So far. So I wish a lot of luck to Crotram, these days it'll start passenger operation on lines 6 and 8.

Photos by Simo Toikkanen

http://sim.1g.fi/kuvat/Raitiovaunuja/080112+Crotram/





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Moram priznati da sam zatecen ovako opsirnim informacijama i hrpom fotki
Zbilja nisam uopce pratio povijest ZET-a i njegov razvoj i nemam pojma da imamo toliko vrsta tramvaja ??
Razvoj mreze i tramvaja je zbilja zadivljujuci !
Steta sto i neki drugi segmenti ovog grada nisu pratili takav nivo razvoja...vjerovatno bi danas bili prava metropola !
Definitivno, ZET se ima čime dičiti...

Bik je sve do nedavno (mjesec, dva) imao dvije prikolice.
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Excellent thread Supix. Highly informative and very visual.
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Jos jedno pitanje
Zasto su crotramu u Helsinkiju skinuli onaj dio kod kotaca (ukrasna ili sto plastika) ...malo mi je na tom dijelu celav??
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Jos jedno pitanje
Zasto su crotramu u Helsinkiju skinuli onaj dio kod kotaca (ukrasna ili sto plastika) ...malo mi je na tom dijelu celav??
To je samo prilikom testiranja. Evo ga s pokrovima, u Helsinkiju:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21353927@N07/2192449947/
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