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Old October 18th, 2017, 01:39 PM   #421
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There's still no culture in Parramatta (art events/galleries, warehouse parties, decent clubs...)
True. These things happen organically with a little help from government. A bit of investment wont go astray, but if they really want to help, they will cut red tape and get out of the way.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 01:53 PM   #422
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cut red tape and get out of the way.
Liquor licencing is the killer, both State and Council
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Old October 18th, 2017, 04:44 PM   #423
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Minister wanted to dump light rail

The Australian has learnt two big Australian infrastructure construction companies will not bid for work for the Parramatta light rail project, which the government reannounced yesterday, partly because of dramas associated with the CBD light rail. Lend Lease and John Holland have decided not to bid for the design and construct part of the plan. A combination of difficulties the Spanish contractors Acciona have had removing and replacing utilities in the CBD and the way the Parramatta deal has been structured has put them off, sources at the companies confirmed.
What companies are most likely to bid for it?
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Old October 19th, 2017, 05:13 AM   #424
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Foreign ones, it sounds like.

Why don't they separate the utility rectification from the rest. The conversion of the Carlo Heavy Rail to light ought to be a straight out easy job, no different from work done at Dulwich Hill, St Kilda and other places.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 05:33 AM   #425
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That's quite unusual to have those sort of rumours come out whilst we're in procurement phase

I don't think foreign companies will be able to handle it. The key risks in it will be handling the interface with RMS and handling the interface with utility providers - you have to have experience of those interfaces or you are guaranteed to fail
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Old October 19th, 2017, 07:25 AM   #426
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Do you think it might be JH and LL campaigning publicly for a better deal?
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Old October 19th, 2017, 07:44 AM   #427
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I don't think so. All construction companies have already given their opinions several times in 1-2-1 soundings on a number of occasions

They all also have plenty of other opportunities to chase, so are picking and choosing. Some of the less appetising jobs (from a risk profile perspective) are already struggling to attract sufficient bidders. This is one, there are a couple of others I know of

Having said that, if TfNSW only get 1 or 2 EOI responses then they might have to rethink the whole procurement strategy, or maybe the treatment of the risks that are particularly unappetising. See the recent reports on Rozelle Interchange
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Old October 26th, 2017, 07:23 AM   #428
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There's still no culture in Parramatta (art events/galleries, warehouse parties, decent clubs...)
"MUH DEFINITION OF CULTURE IS GETTING DRUNK IN A WAREHOUSE"
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Old October 26th, 2017, 08:23 AM   #429
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Well, the EOIs closed on Tuesday. Word on the street is limited interest in the infrastructure package
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Old October 30th, 2017, 09:57 AM   #430
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https://amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...233e4299803333

The Telegragh reports on the proposed light rail route from Parramatta
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Old October 30th, 2017, 12:29 PM   #431
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"MUH DEFINITION OF CULTURE IS GETTING DRUNK IN A WAREHOUSE"
My definition of culture is escaping the 'everyday' and yes this usually happens at night in a warehouse with art, dancers, food etc.

I think you'll find Gen Y is drinking a lot less now, events have become so much more diverse.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 01:21 PM   #432
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The Telegragh reports on the proposed light rail route from Parramatta
Ugh. What shit reporting, but I'd blame TfNSW for that one for not making it clearer what the end game is.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 09:23 AM   #433
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/eat-street...20-gwv8o1.html

Issues raised by local businesses anticipating construction of the Western Light Rail.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 02:33 PM   #434
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My definition of culture is escaping the 'everyday' and yes this usually happens at night in a warehouse with art, dancers, food etc.

I think you'll find Gen Y is drinking a lot less now, events have become so much more diverse.
The definition of 'culture' is the way a group of people do things. It can relate to traditions, costumes, language, foods, music, religion etc. It has nothing to with escaping the 'everyday'.
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2 of 3 shortlisted bidders for Parramatta light rail project in Australia incl Chinese companies: John Holland (CCCC International); and CRRC (China's biggest rolling stock maker)
https://mobile.twitter.com/KirstyLNe...28226469445633
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Pretty sure there is no shortlisting public yet. TfNSW won’t be happy
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The definition of 'culture' is the way a group of people do things. It can relate to traditions, costumes, language, foods, music, religion etc. It has nothing to with escaping the 'everyday'.
That's a dictionary definition unrelated to an urban planning discussion.
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Well it's definitely related to food, if that food happens to be yoghurt.
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Shortlisting announcement tomorrow we are told
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World's best to build and operate Parramatta Light Rail
Published 22 Nov 2017

Five consortia consisting of the world’s best light rail builders and operators have been shortlisted for two contracts to deliver Stage 1 of the Parramatta Light Rail project.

Minister for Transport and Infrastructure Andrew Constance today announced the shortlists for the two major contracts for the project, including Australian and international light rail companies.

“This project will create thousands of jobs for the local community, and light rail will revolutionise the way people move around the Parramatta region,” Mr Constance said.

“The world’s best light rail organisations are lining up to be part of this major infrastructure project, and we are moving as fast as possible with procurement of these contracts to ensure they are both awarded before the end of 2018.”

The shortlists for the two major contracts for Stage 1 are:
  • Infrastructure Works (major construction including urban design):
    • CPB Contractors and Downer EDI Works Joint Venture
    • John Holland Pty Ltd
  • Supply, Operate and Maintain (supply vehicles, design and construct stabling and maintenance facility, systems, and operations and maintenance):
    • Connecting Parramatta Consortium: consisting of John Holland Pty Ltd, ALSTOM Transport Australia Pty Ltd, and Deutsche Bahn Pty Ltd
    • Greater Parramatta: Downer EDI Rail Pty Ltd, with Keolis Downer Pty Ltd, Downer EDI Works Pty Ltd, Ansaldo STS Australia Pty Ltd and CRRC Changchun Australia Pty Ltd
    • Great River City Light Rail: consisting of Transdev Australasia Pty Ltd, Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles (CAF) and Laing O’Rourke Pty Ltd.
Shortlisted bidders will now be asked to submit a formal proposal, with both contracts to be awarded in 2018.

Stage 1 of Parramatta Light Rail will connect Westmead to Carlingford via Parramatta CBD with a two-way track spanning 12 kilometres.

Community members and local stakeholders have recently been able to provide feedback on the project. The Environmental Impact Statement was on public exhibition for eight weeks from August 23 - October 23, 2017.

“I’m really pleased local residents and businesses took the time to read more about the project and make a submission.

“This is the next major step in delivering world class public transport to Sydney’s second CBD. The NSW Government is committed to getting on with the job of building major infrastructure across the state.”

Transport for NSW will prepare and release an EIS submissions report to respond to issues raised during the consultation. Approval from the NSW Minister for Planning is required before Transport for NSW can proceed with construction.

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