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Old October 6th, 2017, 03:31 PM   #521
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Yeah that's an official project. Still in planning: https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/pro...-ferry-wharves
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Old October 8th, 2017, 09:30 AM   #522
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Jamie Durie has been selected to clean up and rejuvenate the George's River area around the Paper Mill apartments. Will involve a lot of work, but I suppose it is worth a try.

http://www.greenhouseonline.com.au/j...er-a-new-look/
I think the main reason there isnít a ferry service along the Georges is that thereís simply very few useful locations for stops. In general, it is a bit odd that there arenít any direct services of any kind between the Shire and Liverpool of any kind. I think itís largely due to the fact that the road network isnít suited to the task. The river really isnít either. Itís indirect, doesnít have any useful mid-trip destinations,and development is too low density for it to be worthwhile. I do think longer term though that a road from Menai that runs from the Bangor Bypass to Heathcote Road that heads toward Liverpool slightly wouldnít be a terrible idea. Itíd be a rat run certainly, but travel times along there would actually compete pretty well with using the M5 between the Shire and Liverpool.Heathcote Road is pretty quick once you get past the Woronora River.Itís another reason I personally favour the A6 route for a through sydney route. Itís perfectly aligned more or less for the task, passes pretty close to several key centres and frankly is probably a cheaper option to get going than the old F6 reservation at least south of the M5. Most of the corridor south of the M5 really only needs a division of the carriageways to be up to standard.

But yes, I doubt a Geroges River ferry makes any financial sense. A Kurnell to La Perouse ferry, on the other hand, if the tram is extended, does make some sense. Iíd personally add a wharf (or consider adding one) near the Sharks ground, seeing as itís right near the water, but things might be too shallow there, Iím not sure how feasible that might be.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 05:18 AM   #523
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https://architectureau.com/articles/...edium=facebook

Proposal to finance CQ ferry wharves with lease of a government building.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 06:17 AM   #524
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Used the Ferries for the first time not on a funday sunday - Milsons Pt (Jeffrey St) to Barangaroo at $5.88. Jesus, steep. But Barangaroo wharves are looking bangin'. Was also surprised to find an Opal top-up machine at Jeffrey Street.
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Old October 24th, 2017, 10:26 AM   #525
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OCTOBER 24 2017 - 4:35PM

Fate of Sydney's last ladies of the harbour finally sealed


Matt O'Sullivan

The fate of Sydney's last two Lady-class ferries has been sealed, after about four decades plying the city's harbour.

Despite a campaign by locals and a petition, the Lady Northcott made her final regular service on Tuesday from Manly to Circular Quay, before sailing under the Harbour Bridge at about 1pm to be tied up at the Balmain Shipyard.

The other Lady-class ferry, the Herron, was berthed at the shipyard a week ago, marking the end of an era for crews and passengers alike.

Transport for NSW confirmed that both Lady-class ferries had completed their "final regular services" and would now be retired, following the entry into service of five of Sydney's six new Emerald-class ferries built in Hobart.

Lavender Bay artist Peter Kingston, who is part of a group campaigning to save the ferries, said Sydney was losing the last two heritage forms of transport, which had been a major drawcard for tourists travelling to Taronga Zoo from Circular Quay.

"It is a tragedy for Sydney Ė the city has lost a connection with its glorious past," he said. "They were built at a time when people took a real pride in building traditional double-ended Lady-class ferries."

Mr Kingston, who has painted the Lady-class ferries for decades from his harbourside home, said locals would continue to fight for the ferries to be returned to regular runs.

"The government doesn't answer any questions that we ask them. They seem determined to get rid of the Lady-class ferries for no good reason," he said. "We are not giving up."

Sydney's Lady-class ferries were named after the wives of NSW governors, and the oldest Ė which have long since retired from ferry services Ė date to the 19th century. Some have ended up as party boats and one as a fish factory in Tasmania.

Built in Newcastle, the Lady Northcott entered service in 1975, and the Lady Herron began regular runs on the inner harbour four years later.

Crews on the Northcott have been told they will begin "consolidation training" this week on Sydney's new replacement ferries.

Transport for NSW said the Lady-class ferries were retired because maintaining the two oldest vessels in the government-owned fleet was costly.

"Their daily operating costs are double that of the newer boats, while maintenance costs are around five times more than other vessels," it said.

"It is very difficult to find spare parts and last year this saw the Lady Northcott spend two months out of service while replacement components were either sourced, or custom made."

The lead transport agency will be calling for expressions of interest to run the two oldest ferries in the fleet as a "heritage operation".

The last of the six new Emerald-class ferries arrived in Sydney from Hobart on Tuesday, and crew training has begun for a new timetable next month.

The new 35-metre catamaran ferries have cost the government almost $52 million, and will be run by the city's main private operator, Sydney Harbour Ferries.
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Old October 24th, 2017, 11:05 AM   #526
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I get that the new ferries are easier and cheaper to maintain because you only need one set of engines, etc.

However the requirement for them to turn around at the Quay is increasing the chances of some fairly serious collisions in the future.

It seems that each generation of ferries can look forward to a shorter career than their predecessors.

For example, Lady Edeline was still working on the Harbour when she was 70+ years old, only paying off around 1984.
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Old October 28th, 2017, 11:22 AM   #527
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The new ferries are much more comfortable and stable in rough waters as well as fuel efficient


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Old October 29th, 2017, 05:30 AM   #528
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Possibly more fuel efficient and perhaps more comfortable than earlier twin hulls, but more comfortable than a monohull? That sounds like a state government blurb being served up as fact.

There are reasons you don’t see low-speed twin hulls on the Manly run. And high speed ones aren’t comfortable when they encounter any sort of sea state - they have to slow down.
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Old October 29th, 2017, 05:37 AM   #529
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that's my blurb you armchair critic

I've been on them and their are a shitload better than the old ones they scrapped
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Old October 29th, 2017, 05:42 AM   #530
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Didn’t take long, did it.
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Old November 14th, 2017, 11:02 AM   #531
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No discussion of Ferry McFerryface?
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Old November 15th, 2017, 02:34 AM   #532
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Sydney GPT thread.

I am bantering with Peter and Bastard Squad over there.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 04:03 PM   #533
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No discussion of Ferry McFerryface?
Nothing other than get rid of the unions and sack any staff that refuse to work on the craft. What a embarrassment to their trade, carrying on over the name of a vessel. Regardless of the merit of the name or not, their arguments are as flimsy as tissue paper - grow the F up.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 04:11 PM   #534
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I'm angry they went with a nostalgic look to satisfy the 4 whiney ferry historians that made such a song and dance over the new ferries. The new craft would have looked far better in a more up to date aesthetic IMO, while they do look ok I really don't see why they wanted to recreate something that's was average looking and hardly historical to begin with. These are not really even retro-futuristic, they are simply trying to copy the old design and apply it to a much larger design. We rarely build cars, buses, planes, trains in heritage styles, maybe a few trams but really what we see for mass transit is mostly current styles or at the worse retro-futurism as with some London buses.

Austral and Incat build some amazing vessels in cutting edge designs, they should have been allowed to do what they do best.

As for the Fred Hollows named vessel ... he was a bigot, regardless of his service to medicine, I am disappointed that people still believe he deserves his name on a Ferry. I am disappointed with the new names, the only name that actually has any relationship to water is the new ferry McFerryFace vessel. Why are we naming vessels after doctors????? Swimmers I see a link and even Bungaree due to his links with Mosman etc but medical practitioners, What?
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