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Old September 26th, 2004, 06:32 AM   #21
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"Avoid disappointment and future regret"
Interesting how "disappointment", and "regret" often follow the F Tower, no matter what the context.
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Old September 26th, 2004, 10:49 PM   #22
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Interesting how "disappointment", and "regret" often follow the F Tower, no matter what the context.
That's cause the Freedom tower itself is a dissappointment they will regret. Let's just hope it turns out half decent..
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Old September 26th, 2004, 11:07 PM   #23
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I know it was just one sentence, but can you read between the lines? I was obviously inferring that FT will be a disapointment, and no it will not turn out half-decent. It will never look as good as the renderings. It will look worse, it will be short, it will be surrounded by chunky, stumpy, pieces of broken glass and dreams.
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Old October 13th, 2004, 09:40 PM   #24
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From http://www.usatoday.com/money/2004-10-13-wtc-coin_x.htm

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Spitzer halts sale of Sept. 11 coins he calls fraud

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer on Wednesday obtained a court order to temporarily suspend the sale of commemorative Sept. 11 coins heavily advertised as being minted from silver recovered from ground zero.
Spitzer said the sale of the silver dollars emblazoned with the World Trade Center towers on one side and the planned Freedom Tower on the flip side is a fraud and he's investigating the claim the silver came from the ruins of the twin towers.

"It is a shameless attempt to profit from a national tragedy," Spitzer said. "This product has been promoted with claims that are false, misleading or unsubstantiated." (Related: WTC medallion looks like money but isn't)

Spitzer said the National Collector's Mint says the coins, engraved with "In God We Trust," are legally authorized silver dollars, when they aren't.

He said the coin advertised as nearly pure silver is only silver plated, produced by a Wyoming company called SoftSky.

The TV and print ads include one fashioned after a news story that reads: "Today, history is being made. For the first time ever, a legally authorized government issue silver dollar has been struck to commemorate the World Trade Center and the new Freedom Tower being erected in its place ... Most importantly, each coin has been created using .999 pure silver recovered from ground zero!"

The dollar pieces are priced at $39 each, but sold at $19.95 with a limit of five per customer.

A company spokesman didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. On Sept. 10, the U.S. Mint issued a notice on its Web site that the coin "is not a legally authorized government issued" product.

The temporary halt on sales is pending a civil suit filed by Spitzer in state Supreme Court. Spitzer seeks civil penalties, restitution to those who bought the coins, greater consumer disclosure and full disclosure that the coins aren't endorsed by the federal government.

The company sells a variety of novelty coins, including those with characters from the Harry Potter books and movies.

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Now, if only Spitzer would do the same to the FT itself...
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Old October 13th, 2004, 09:51 PM   #25
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They changed the look of the FT on the front of the coin. While obviously a legal maneuver, I actually like the coin version over the official one. Though compared to the Twins, they both suck.



This coin has certainly become a true icon of the rebuilding process.
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lol - The new version of the coin looks like a twisted wack version of an overgrown Chrysler building.

Damn, Spitzer is THE man, I hope he runs for Governor in '06.
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^I thought it looked more like a partially-melted Two Prudential Center. Which, IMHO, is better than a pointy windmill with a birdcage on top. It's like comparing whether or not you'd rather be shot in the leg, or in the shoulder.
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Old October 18th, 2004, 02:58 AM   #28
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More coin news:

http://www.courierpostonline.com/new...y/m101704k.htm

Burlco man sues manufacturer of Freedom Coin

Sunday, October 17, 2004

Lawsuit calls the 9/11 commemorative `shameless' effort to profit from tragedy
By TOM LOUNSBERRY
Courier-Post Staff
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You might have seen the one-minute commercial.

You can buy a $1 Freedom Coin engraved with the phrase, "We Will Never Forget." One side of the coin shows the Freedom Tower planned for ground zero and bears the phrase "In God We Trust." The other shows the old Manhattan skyline, with the World Trade Center still standing, and the phrase "One dollar." It's made of .999 pure silver recovered from a vault at ground zero.

The company marketing the coin says it is the first "legally authorized government issue silver dollar . . . to commemorate the World Trade Center and the new Freedom Tower.

A Burlington County resident doesn't believe a word of that.

Adam DeMarco has filed a civil suit against National Collector's Mint Inc., which is manufacturing the coin, and two of its officers, Sidney Nachman and Avram C. Freedberg.

DeMarco is seeking class-action status for the suit, which was filed Friday in Superior Court in Burlington County.

The coin, which costs $23.45, including shipping and handling, is a "shameless attempt to profit from a national tragedy though an advertising campaign," the suit states.

The suit seeks a jury trial and unspecified damages to the more than 10,000 people who are known to have purchased the coin and others who might have purchased the coin.

Attempts to reach National Collector's Mint, a Delaware corporation, with its principal business located in Port Chester, N.Y., were unsuccessful.

The lawsuit claims the mint and the two officers engaged in a "pattern of unconscionable business practices, including knowing omissions and affirmation misstatements of fact in connection with the advertising, marketing, and sale" of the coin.

The suit was filed by attorney Stephen P. DeNittis of Marlton in behalf of his client.

National Collector's Mint is advertising the coins as products of the U.S. Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.

The suit claims the coin is not legal tender and the coin was not issued by the U.S. Mint, that it is not pure silver, but silver-plated and manufactured in Wyoming and that it is not the equivalent of $1 in U.S. currency and was never authorized by the U.S. government.

The suit also claims that the mint has failed its "guarantee" that if the customer is not satisfied, the coin can be returned for a full refund "no questions asked."
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