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Old October 15th, 2009, 12:18 PM   #1
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KOTA KINABALU ( formerly Jesselton ) | Sabah | State Capital City

Kota Kinabalu, v4 reached more 100 pages. I might as well take the lead and start a new thread
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Old October 15th, 2009, 12:25 PM   #2
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http://go-green.kkcwaterfront.com.my/

1. Vertical Garden and Green Roof
2. Environmentally friendly building materials
3. Solar Tube Day Light Harvesting
4. Thermal Insulated Glass Facade
5. 2km Public Waterfront Boardwalk
6. Energy Efficient Fittings
7. Concealed Refuse Compaction System


Hey Benz, looks like they are gonna go ahead with this project. This is gonna be one hell of a place to visit after work
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Old October 15th, 2009, 04:06 PM   #3
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wah v5 liao..
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Here are some update photos taken yesterday morning around town.

You can see a few projects here, City Hotel, Cititel Hotel and the 14 storey hotel.


Waterfront behind Gaya Center


I heard that Gaya Center is going to be turned into a hotel - Gaya Hotel.


Room extensions at Hyatt Hotel, no more balconies.


Same with the side facing the waterfront


14-storey hotel near Milimewa



Not many people around here since the bus stops were moved near to Wawasan Plaza.

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Old October 16th, 2009, 12:31 PM   #5
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Just posted something and it said they have to review my post before publish it??? hmmmm
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Apa masalah bandaraya KK?

Most KKites doesn't realizes that their city is one of the cities in Malaysia that does not have freeway (expressway/superhigway, check on Wikipedia to understand more about road system). KL (of course), JB, Ipoh, Alor Setar and Penang have. Those roads, e.g. the one runs from Sepanggar to CBD (pusat bandar) is not a freeway, it's a city road.

KK does not have zoning, well it is good for business but it's taken for granted. Lack of proper planning. I don't want to discuss more on this, you could tell how messed up it is.

Intense traffic jam within the city boundary during peak hours. One main cause, the lack of freeway system. Second, KK doesn't have central traffic control. All the traffic lights are individually-automatically controlled. Maybe central traffic control is not bearable for KK to develop. Plus, this system only implemented in any major cities in developed countries.

There's a lot more to improve when it comes to city planning, mobility, and infrastructure. Those who are reading this post, feel free to add what else the problem comes in mind.

Well no matter what the problem, KK still has a huge potential to become major tourists spot in southeast Asia and a very livable city in Malaysia. KK is a very beautiful, blessed with the natural beauty surrounds the city, like the Kinabalu Mt. at the back.

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Old October 17th, 2009, 11:58 PM   #7
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Most KKites doesn't realizes that their city is one of the cities in Malaysia that does not have freeway (expressway/superhigway, check on Wikipedia to understand more about road system). KL (of course), JB, Ipoh, Alor Setar and Penang have. Those roads, e.g. the one runs from Sepanggar to CBD (pusat bandar) is not a freeway, it's a city road.

KK does not have zoning, well it is good for business but it's taken for granted. Lack of proper planning. I don't want to discuss more on this, you could tell how messed up it is.

Intense traffic jam within the city boundary during peak hours. One main cause, the lack of freeway system. Second, KK doesn't have central traffic control. All the traffic lights are individually-automatically controlled. Maybe central traffic control is not bearable for KK to develop. Plus, this system only implemented in any major cities in developed countries.

There's a lot more to improve when it comes to city planning, mobility, and infrastructure. Those who are reading this post, feel free to add what else the problem comes in mind.

Well no matter what the problem, KK still has a huge potential to become major tourists spot in southeast Asia and a very livable city in Malaysia. KK is a very beautiful, blessed with the natural beauty surrounds the city, like the Kinabalu Mt. at the back.
superhighway/ express highway ahh? yes of course KL, JB Alor Star n ipoh ada superhighway tu.... kamu tgk ja la lokasi bandar2 utama tu d mana? n kenapa diorg ada superhighway d sana? kan semua bandar utama tu d semenanjung? jarak diantara negeri2 semua berdekatan... sbb tu la bandar2 utama d sana especially sebelah barat ada express highway.... sbb bandar2 utama sebelah lagi progressif berbanding dengan bandar2 utama sebelah timur.... lagipun dengan kedudukan negeri2 yang begitu hampir, jalan bandaran atau bandaraya dijamin xmampu menampung traffic volume dari negeri2 lain yang tinggi sbb tu la d reka superhighway d sana yang bersambung dengan negeri2 lain.... interstate highway bah tu, lebuhraya antara negeri...

melihat kepada masalah KK yang xda express highway, keluasan negeri ja satu faktor, jarak antara bandar2 utama d sabah n sarawak pun paling2 beratus kilometer juga laaaaaa, lagi negeri yang berjiran pun hanya sarawak dan negara jiran spt brunei dan indon..... dan rasanya kalau daerah2 berjiran dengan KK maju dan progresif, ahaaa akan ada lah projek super expressway tu nanti....

kerajaan persekutuan bersama kerajaan negeri dan DBKK perlu turun padang bersama dan mengkaji masalah utama d KK ni, bukannya just masalah transportation dan zoning saja tapi masalah2 lain yang berkaitan.... sbb semua masalah ni ibarat time bomb? tggu masa ja utk meletup ahaha :p
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superhighway/ express highway ahh? yes of course KL, JB Alor Star n ipoh ada superhighway tu.... kamu tgk ja la lokasi bandar2 utama tu d mana? n kenapa diorg ada superhighway d sana? kan semua bandar utama tu d semenanjung? jarak diantara negeri2 semua berdekatan... sbb tu la bandar2 utama d sana especially sebelah barat ada express highway.... sbb bandar2 utama sebelah lagi progressif berbanding dengan bandar2 utama sebelah timur.... lagipun dengan kedudukan negeri2 yang begitu hampir, jalan bandaran atau bandaraya dijamin xmampu menampung traffic volume dari negeri2 lain yang tinggi sbb tu la d reka superhighway d sana yang bersambung dengan negeri2 lain.... interstate highway bah tu, lebuhraya antara negeri...

melihat kepada masalah KK yang xda express highway, keluasan negeri ja satu faktor, jarak antara bandar2 utama d sabah n sarawak pun paling2 beratus kilometer juga laaaaaa, lagi negeri yang berjiran pun hanya sarawak dan negara jiran spt brunei dan indon..... dan rasanya kalau daerah2 berjiran dengan KK maju dan progresif, ahaaa akan ada lah projek super expressway tu nanti....

kerajaan persekutuan bersama kerajaan negeri dan DBKK perlu turun padang bersama dan mengkaji masalah utama d KK ni, bukannya just masalah transportation dan zoning saja tapi masalah2 lain yang berkaitan.... sbb semua masalah ni ibarat time bomb? tggu masa ja utk meletup ahaha :p
Tompinai, sya percaya ko ni urang Sabah ni kan? Manakan ko tida mau dibina sistem lebuhraya yang lebih canggih di Sabah. Saya fikir2 ba, kenapa pula mau tunggu Sabah mencapai populasi 10 juta dulu baru mau bikin expressway system. Adakah mau tunggu KK mau jadi progresif dulu kenen baru mau buat jalan raya yang lebih bagus. Saya baca ni sejarah sistem jalan raya di Klang Valley, sebab kena bikin tu expressway la (paling pertama dibina tu la dia Federal Highway tahun 60an, connect Port Klang and KL) yang menjadikan bandar2 utama di Selangor maju dan terus berkembang. Kalau kita tnguk balik sejarah pentadbiran British di Sabah, durg bikin tu jalan raya dari Kudat p Jesselton, sampai la Beaufort, dulu2 sumua tu tempat kampung2 ja ba tu, tnguk sekarang, apa jadi. So let's hop into my boat, we'll lobby the DUN.
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Old October 18th, 2009, 12:03 PM   #9
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10 juta then consider building an expressway? on what basis did u get that info from?? Perth being a huge city geographically yet small in population (1.6 million) is very very much dependent on their one and only freeway that links the whole city and metropolitan area from north to south.

do u know why kk population are always concentrated within 10km from each other? that is becos nothing could facilitate their transport if one happen to travel from tuaran to kinarut. imagine how long it takes DRIVING ACCORDING TO SPEED LIMIT.

another problem as a result of a missing expressway is TRAFFIC JAM dring peak hours. cars stacking with each other as there is nothing that could facilitate their movement out from the area in a short period of time.

another thing is why should you build the expressway that links to brunei and then sarawak at the current state? perhaps we should think for the ppl in sabah 1st before the plight of another state.

does it cost a lot of money? it does but not that much as long as those money are going to the right man's pocket. anyway it is a long term plan for the ppl and it always worth the cost.
I agree with simon87. I live in Perth and sometimes, as work requires, I need to travel more than 50km to work. It takes around 30 to 40min to get there if I start from Perth metro. It is even much faster when I start from the city outskirt. This is possible due to their express way and well-planned transport line. This is not possible in KK.

KK is booming and this means more people going there....which means more cars. The KK government should look into this one.

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Dude... we are talking about expressway dude... i m just explaining why government don't implement expressways in KK. I m more concern of connecting Kuching because it is much easier to connect both big city of Borneo because of the existing Pan Borneo. If you are about to connect KK-Sandakan and Tawaw, how much the cost will the government have to bear??? The mountain rage again...

I m not a typical Malaysian, because typical Malaysian will always complaint. I compare with Thailand because to differenciate between what we have achieved with Thailand which have more population than us. Plus, if we are about to build highways and expressway like the one in West Malaysia, whe have to concider to build an extremely super long bridge to connect west Malaysia and East Malaysia 1st hand before we want to. We don't have the population dude. It is better to improve our healthcare and education system 1st than building an expressway which is unnecessary. Maybe during peak hour, we do need broad road. But during non peak hour, the road will be EMPTY with only few cars and thet will be just a waste of money. But, i m sure in the future, our government will build better road system. We will just have to wait because all we know is just nag, complaint, not to help.

And for your last comment, you sounded quite rude there. We are Malaysian and thats mean 1 Malaysia. So, we have to connect the 2 city together because KK is more to Tourism, but Kuching is more to business and educational hub and ear in the future, medical hub for Borneo. That is why we should connect the 2 city properly 1st. Just think what LEBUH RAYA UTARA SELATAN have done to semenanjung. It is the Tulang Belakang Semenanjung Malaysia. So, we have to connect the 2 city 1st, before other city.
Actually, the air flight is so cheap now and I think it is more economical to travel by air. Railyway line is cheap when it is used for transporting goods. Building interstate road is really costly lor, not counting the maintenance cost as well.

With the low population as you stated, I think there may be even be less poeple using the interstate road.... then again, I may be wrong.

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KK is booming and this means more people going there....which means more cars. The KK government should look into this one.
If only people in Malaysia would go for public transportation instead of staying in their cars. This "car-culture" reflects the results of years of bad foresight in town planning we have here in Malaysia. Look at Klang Valley, even with its superior network of expressways, congestions are very much a problem. That's because the public transportation in Malaysia is very much below par compared to other countries with better .
Unfortunately, our cities (especially transportation) are planned with cars in mind, not people. Expressways will invite more people to use cars, inevitably reaching the max capacity, after which we need to build even more lanes and hence a vicious cycle here. We need to break that cycle somehow because we will not be able to add more lanes to our roads forever. Not to mention pollution and the waste of resource due to sprawls that is encouraged by building more and more roads expanding outwards from the core of the urban center.
This has been pointed out in many expressways vs public transportation (rail, bus, metro etc) debates and I think its fitting for me to raise it here.
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Over RM1 Bln Allocated For Forest Plantation Programmes
October 16, 2009 18:59 PM

KOTA KINABALU, Oct 16 (Bernama) -- The government, committed to supporting the expansion of forest plantation and reducing the extraction of timber from natural forests, has allocated RM1.065 billion in the form of soft loans to finance forest plantation programmes.

Plantation Industries and Commodities Minister Tan Sri Bernard Dompok said that to date, about 14 loan agreements worth RM232.549 million had been signed to fund the development of 52,435 hectares of forest plantation.

Today, programme facilitator Forest Plantation Development Sdn Bhd formalised a RM13.5 million deal with the Sabah Forestry Development Authority here for the planting of about 2,500 hectares of rubber wood of the timber latex clone beginning next year.

Dompok said he hoped more companies would apply for the soft loan so that the ministry's target of planting 375,000 hectares of forest plantation could be achieved.

"The timber industry is a very significant industry in Malaysia.

"Last year, the industry contributed RM22.79 billion to Malaysia's export earnings," he said.

Forest Plantation Development is wholly-owned by the Malaysian Timber Industry Board, an agency under the Plantation Industries and Commodities Ministry.

Its functions among others are to promote the establishment of forest plantations for future sustainability of timber supply, obtain enough funds either locally or internationally to support the establishment of commercial forest plantations and provide soft loans to state government agencies and private companies interested in the development of forest plantations.

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Anyone know about this??

1)"about 14 loan agreements worth RM232.549 million had been signed." Who are they???? With that kind of $$$$, I want to have a career change.

2)"52,435 hectares" is a lot of land by any standard. Where in Sabah are they going to do this ????? How long will it take to finish the plantation????

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Sabah PKR splits over 'outsider'

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I don't think the news article has nothing to do with development of KK...
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If only people in Malaysia would go for public transportation instead of staying in their cars. This "car-culture" reflects the results of years of bad foresight in town planning we have here in Malaysia. Look at Klang Valley, even with its superior network of expressways, congestions are very much a problem. That's because the public transportation in Malaysia is very much below par compared to other countries with better .
Unfortunately, our cities (especially transportation) are planned with cars in mind, not people. Expressways will invite more people to use cars, inevitably reaching the max capacity, after which we need to build even more lanes and hence a vicious cycle here. We need to break that cycle somehow because we will not be able to add more lanes to our roads forever. Not to mention pollution and the waste of resource due to sprawls that is encouraged by building more and more roads expanding outwards from the core of the urban center.
This has been pointed out in many expressways vs public transportation (rail, bus, metro etc) debates and I think its fitting for me to raise it here.
I agree with you...been trying to say something like this but I am not really sure how...
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I don't think the news article has nothing to do with development of KK...
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I agree with you...been trying to say something like this but I am not really sure how...
Wrong Interpretation - why? People does not get attracted to buy car because of better road system. Think about this situation "Hey honey, the new freeway Sepanggar-Papar freeway is already completed and ready for use, can I buy a new car so I could drive my own to go to work instead of taking the bus?". People will buy car for better mobility reason not because of the road getting better. Increasing number of cars resulted in urban sprawling is strictly because of population growing - more people move in into one particular city, more vehicles are running on the road. In fact, saya yang tinggal dekat2 kampung mati2 pujuk bapa sya beli truck (Isuzu Invader let say) since the roads in kampung2 (Sabah scope) are mostly gravel road <- this is hypothetical situation btw, yet, I'm trying to make a point there
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Anyone know about this??

1)"about 14 loan agreements worth RM232.549 million had been signed." Who are they???? With that kind of $$$$, I want to have a career change.

2)"52,435 hectares" is a lot of land by any standard. Where in Sabah are they going to do this ????? How long will it take to finish the plantation????
Odoi dogo (omfg), associate bapa sya mati2 mo cari kayu balak di belakang bukit-bukau Ranau. Sorou pondo (syukurla) kalau dapat cari at least 4k/month, kalau kurang lagi dari tu bingkarap (muflis) la gara-gara mau cover kos tenaga pekerja.

Kalau sya tau begini durang buat projek plantation, bagus sya suru tu associate p tanam pukuk (pokok) daripada tabang (tebang) pukuk.

Come on tompinai, let us change career. Seems like this forest plantation give me more promising future.
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為無線台慶劇「富貴門」造勢 港六藝人蒞沙會劇迷


【亞庇十七日訊】香港當紅藝人羅嘉良、呂良偉、薛家燕、馬德鐘、馬國明以及陳敏之今天抵達沙巴亞庇1 BORNEO會見劇迷,為香港無線台慶劇造勢!

無線電視為迎接四十二週年紀念慶典,隆重推出四十一集台慶劇「富貴門」,金鑽陣容,鉅資打造,展現宏大聲勢。

六位香港藝人今日在記者招待會上不約而同表示他們在沙巴拍攝期間對這裡的便宜美食與海鮮留下深刻印象。

曾經多次到過沙巴的羅嘉良說他很喜歡吃海鮮,並以「好正」來形容。他透露今次在「富貴門」將飾演大反派,是個神憎鬼厭的奸角。

呂良偉第一次來沙拍攝劇集,覺得沙巴是個很漂亮的地方。「這裡的人很好,食物又好吃,是度蜜月與度假的好地方,因為這裡什麽東西都可說是『平、靚、正』。」

他在劇中飾演孝順子,好老公與好爸爸,看到父親遺囑後為完成他的心願,把在沙巴的遺腹子找回來,沒想到他的弟弟原來早已經死了,來了個冒充的騙子,還搞風搞雨,搞到雞犬不寧。 他說:原本母親(薛家燕飾)對這個私生子很反感,但在他的甜言蜜語下成功討獲母親的歡心。「此劇裡面很多鬥爭劇情,我們用了很輕鬆的手法去演繹。」

陳敏之來沙拍攝時是首度到沙巴,她覺得這裡的人很友善和熱情,還有很多好東西吃,她最印象深刻的是吃了大龍躉,還有很喜歡這裡的桔子冰,還喝了很多杯。

「我在劇裏面是飾演一個對感情很專一的女生,愛羅嘉良愛到死,卻被他當成愛的替身,我還會與馬國明發展一段感情。」

薛家燕對當時抱病在身無法來沙參與拍攝工作感到可惜,不過她以前曾多次來沙登臺表演,對沙巴已經有認識。「沙巴是旅遊勝地,一個讓人感覺很放鬆的好地方。我也想見見代我在沙拍攝的替身,聽說她蠻像我的,不曉得她有沒有我美,哈哈!」

薛家燕透露,她在劇中飾演超級富豪太太,角色是香港上流社會的縮影,一次她發現自己的丈夫在沙巴有一個私生子,把孩子帶回來之後,他很會討她歡心,沒想到他卻是個大奸人。

馬德鐘也是到過沙巴很多次了,他最喜歡來沙巴度假,潛水也是在這裡學會的。「我喜歡來這裡潛水和打高爾夫球,還攀登過神山,我非常喜歡這裡。」

他在劇中對羅嘉良飾演的奸角很多意見,知道他不是個好人,奈何每次告訴好朋友呂良偉,對方卻不相信,裡面有一場戲要和羅嘉良打架,他形容當時打的很暢快。

無線新扎小生馬國明也表示自己很喜歡沙巴的乾淨,因為他是一個愛乾淨的人,所以他很喜歡這裡。

「在戲裏面我的角色很純情,和現實裏的我全然不同,我一心一意的愛陳敏之,奈何她愛的卻是羅嘉良。」

六位TVB紅星隨後也出席今日五時正在1 BORNEO會議廳舉行的「富貴門」劇迷見面會,與前來沙巴旅遊的香港遊客及受邀的ASTRO劇迷朋友近距離接觸,ASTRO ON DEMAND將在本月十九日與香港觀眾同步收看「富貴門」。

以及晚上七時於1 BORNEO CENTRE ATRIUM舉行的「富貴門」馬來西亞首映晚宴,與逾四百位觀眾共進自助餐,並搶先觀賞「富貴門」首一、二集的精彩劇情。

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Old October 18th, 2009, 08:57 PM   #19
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English Please

I don't read Chinese, I'm sorry.
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u know why?

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no i am not, but i live nad the klang valley, and like others in the klang valley are really tired of the inefficiencies of the expressway,it is better to take the train even if its pack, it just take 20minutes,while using the road, you get stuck for 3 hours,but the problem is, theres a limited line and its effected your mobilities, our gov keep on building highway while in singapore the development of MRT takes priority,and the road 2nd, thus its is more mobility in sg than in KL,...and urban expressway in KK and Kuching is more than welcome,and but the planned should also included a LRT,BRT lines. theres no point in using a references on how we develop our other city, but we should learn from it failure and problem... I am having some doubt about a dual carriages trans borneo expressway is well its just to long and to expensive couple with small population, will it be economically sustainable? if the gov pour in the money to built it, then other project that is integral towards the development of the 2 state will come to a halt.and we end up being the losing party.

some train in europe allowed for the loading of your private vehicle with you, its travel faster and safer, so i will recon it is the best ever option..
the government can spend millions of dollars to build or widen the expressway and it could go less and less inefficient. Somehow I like to think that when they want to build the expressway, they don't study the traffic dynamic. Yes I said traffic dynamic. Well, they might study it, but end up making a bad decision.
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