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Old April 16th, 2015, 07:12 AM   #381
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Old April 16th, 2015, 08:50 PM   #382
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Am I missing something because those signs and pavement markings seem to contradict each other.

If the two circular signs posted on each side of the road indicate that passing is prohibited, then why does the center line feature a solid and broken yellow lines. If passing were prohibited, wouldn't the center line be a double solid yellow line?
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Old April 17th, 2015, 07:19 AM   #383
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Old April 17th, 2015, 07:40 AM   #384
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because traffic coming from the opposite direction ( the broken line and therefore are allowed to overtake) can't see the 2 signs. The signs are on both sides of the road but face only in one direction, not both directions, and are applicable to traffic travelling in the direction of the solid line (who therefore aren't allowed to overtake).
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Old April 18th, 2015, 12:22 AM   #385
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I think that the signs in the first photo are pointing the wrong way.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 03:43 AM   #386
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because traffic coming from the opposite direction ( the broken line and therefore are allowed to overtake) can't see the 2 signs. The signs are on both sides of the road but face only in one direction, not both directions, and are applicable to traffic travelling in the direction of the solid line (who therefore aren't allowed to overtake).
but those guys have the faixa adicional so they have to be able to pass...
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Old April 18th, 2015, 05:02 AM   #387
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I think that the signs in the first photo are pointing the wrong way.
Which signs ? Mandatory ones ?

No blue signs here in Brazil Our mandatory signs have black symbols on a white background with a red border.









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Old April 18th, 2015, 12:47 PM   #388
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I assume that you are aware that your "mandatory" signs would be prohibition signs in large parts of the world, eg Europe, even without the slash across. Must be quite confusing when driving abroad for you guys...
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Old April 18th, 2015, 02:45 PM   #389
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No, the no overtaking signs.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 06:07 PM   #390
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I assume that you are aware that your "mandatory" signs would be prohibition signs in large parts of the world, eg Europe, even without the slash across. Must be quite confusing when driving abroad for you guys...
Both allowed in the Vienna Convention, and I've heard that Germany used to have the same red-white mandatory signage, pre-Vienna Convention.
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Both allowed in the Vienna Convention, and I've heard that Germany used to have the same red-white mandatory signage, pre-Vienna Convention.
Actually not the same, but both look similar.

These Wikipedia pages give overviews of the signs used until Vienna Convention. (All are in German, but the pictures should be enough)

1938 - 1945: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildtaf..._1938_bis_1945
1945 - 1953 (Occupation zones in the west): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildtaf..._1945_bis_1953
with only small changes

1956 - 1971 (BRD/West Germany): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildtaf..._1956_bis_1971 (usage of blue signs for directions with the modern design of the arrow)
1956- 1963 (DDR/East Germany): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildtaf..._1956_bis_1964 (usage of blue signs for directions, with the old design of the arrow)
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Old April 19th, 2015, 07:23 PM   #392
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Both allowed in the Vienna Convention, and I've heard that Germany used to have the same red-white mandatory signage, pre-Vienna Convention.
Nevertheless confusing that what is a prohibition in one country, is mandatory in another,which is probably why Germany switched.
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To use a different color to signal oncoming traffic is good idea, once it's been introduced a while I can see it be instinct to be extra careful once crossing yellow lines, and in snowy nations it makes perfect sense to use yellow anyway.
One of the things Norway does right for sure, maybe on day Sweden will reintroduce this feature.
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Both allowed in the Vienna Convention, and I've heard that Germany used to have the same red-white mandatory signage, pre-Vienna Convention.
In Chile both are allowed

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Old April 20th, 2015, 02:52 AM   #395
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In Chile both are allowed

Can someone tell me what all of that colours at the map means?
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Blue =

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Orange = and

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Thank you for a very good explanation!
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Seems like Argentina has made its own compromise....
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To use a different color to signal oncoming traffic is good idea, once it's been introduced a while I can see it be instinct to be extra careful once crossing yellow lines, and in snowy nations it makes perfect sense to use yellow anyway.
No it does not. In the winter time, most of the road markings are not visible at all, or their visibility is rather limited. The reflective poles at the edges of the road are much more important. Therefore, the coloring of the markings is more or less a matter of taste.





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Yellow vs white road paint is not the most important safety feature, but I indeed believe there is a difference in visibility in winter. In winter time, highly trafficated roads, where center lines are most important, more often than not are only partially covered by snow, and then, as Glenn's excellent post earlier indicated , yellow lines are more visible than white. Reflective side posts are helpful to keep you on the road, but does not prevent head-on crashes which is the most serious type of accident on medium trafficated two-way non-separated roads.


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