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Old April 17th, 2015, 11:19 AM   #961
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Last January ADO Den Haag's new owner stated his intentions to expand the Kyocera Stadium from 15,000 to 20,000 seats. Only last summer he wanted to expand to 30,000, but luckily someone managed talked some sense into him. At the moment the average attendance is less than 12k.
A shame that a club in a city of half a million inhabitants, cant fill a stadium of 15.000. It's the third city in NL..

You would say that there is potentially a bigger market for that club.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 11:27 AM   #962
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It's a nice little ground as well. Have some friends that live nearby if I ever move to Holland it'll be my team to watch
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Old April 17th, 2015, 04:45 PM   #963
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A shame that a club in a city of half a million inhabitants, cant fill a stadium of 15.000. It's the third city in NL..

You would say that there is potentially a bigger market for that club.
Over one million in the metro area! Always wondered why this key city has never built any decent football tradition, especially in such a thriving footballing country.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 02:58 PM   #964
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The Hague has a rich footballing tradition but its successes date back to the early days of the game.
Between 1889 and 1943 a total of 16 national championships were won by 4 different teams from The Hague (with 9 championship in a row won by teams from the city between 1900 and 1908). HVV is still number 4 on the list national champions (10 titles) and the only club outside of the traditional top 3 that is allowed to adorn their shirt with a golden star.

No championships have been won by clubs from the city since 1943 and football sort of went into hibernation there after the arrival of professional football in The Netherlands in 1954. Partly because most of the bigger clubs (HVV, HBS, Quick) were against professional football and refused to join the new professional leagues (they still exist as small amateur clubs to this day), partly because the clubs that did (ADO, Holland Sport) never really had enough funds to challenge for the silver ware. The Hague as a governmental city lacks industry which probably didn't help either I guess.

The last time a team from The Hague manage to play for the title was ADO in the early 70's with a lot of homegrown players. Unfortunately for them this was also the era of Johan Cruijff's Ajax and Wim van Hanegem's Feyenoord, in any other era this team would probably have won one or more championships.

The city of The Hague than pretty much forced ADO to merge with Holland Sport (the only other remaining professional team in the city) into FC Den Haag in 1971 figuring that creating one big club in the city would surely mean success. This never reallly happened because the supporters of Holland Sport (who were mostly from the district of Scheveningen) refused to go to the new club that played in ADO's former stadium in the Zuiderpark area at the other side of the city. This effectively meant that one of the city's clubs got eliminated without the other one being able to profit from it.

Hooliganism in the 80's turned FC Den Haag in the most notorious club in the country up to the point were people from the city distanced itself either from the sport completely or started to support more successful clubs like Ajax and Feyenoord. As a result The Hague was without top flight football for most of the 80's and 90's (formative decades for today's fans).
During the 90's FC Den Haag was rebranded to ADO Den Haag hoping to shed off it's bad reputation. They have somewhat been successful in this aspect but mismanagement, lack of funds and a city filled with people that distrust the club mean they have still not been able to create a stable club.
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The Hague has a rich footballing tradition but its successes date back to the early days of the game.
Between 1889 and 1943 a total of 16 national championships were won by 4 different teams from The Hague (with 9 championship in a row won by teams from the city between 1900 and 1908). HVV is still number 4 on the list national champions (10 titles) and the only club outside of the traditional top 3 that is allowed to adorn their shirt with a golden star.

No championships have been won by clubs from the city since 1943 and football sort of went into hibernation there after the arrival of professional football in The Netherlands in 1954. Partly because most of the bigger clubs (HVV, HBS, Quick) were against professional football and refused to join the new professional leagues (they still exist as small amateur clubs to this day), partly because the clubs that did (ADO, Holland Sport) never really had enough funds to challenge for the silver ware. The Hague as a governmental city lacks industry which probably didn't help either I guess.

The last time a team from The Hague manage to play for the title was ADO in the early 70's with a lot of homegrown players. Unfortunately for them this was also the era of Johan Cruijff's Ajax and Wim van Hanegem's Feyenoord, in any other era this team would probably have won one or more championships.

The city of The Hague than pretty much forced ADO to merge with Holland Sport (the only other remaining professional team in the city) into FC Den Haag in 1971 figuring that creating one big club in the city would surely mean success. This never reallly happened because the supporters of Holland Sport (who were mostly from the district of Scheveningen) refused to go to the new club that played in ADO's former stadium in the Zuiderpark area at the other side of the city. This effectively meant that one of the city's clubs got eliminated without the other one being able to profit from it.

Hooliganism in the 80's turned FC Den Haag in the most notorious club in the country up to the point were people from the city distanced itself either from the sport completely or started to support more successful clubs like Ajax and Feyenoord. As a result The Hague was without top flight football for most of the 80's and 90's (formative decades for today's fans).
During the 90's FC Den Haag was rebranded to ADO Den Haag hoping to shed off it's bad reputation. They have somewhat been successful in this aspect but mismanagement, lack of funds and a city filled with people that distrust the club mean they have still not been able to create a stable club.
Nothing to add to that.
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