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Old August 21st, 2004, 01:35 PM   #1
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Old August 21st, 2004, 05:47 PM   #2
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Hotel Indonesia (H.I) Jakarta

Closed under renovation, reopened 2005. Picture taken on July 2004

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Old August 21st, 2004, 06:02 PM   #3
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I think Hotel Indonesia was the first skyscraper built in Indonesia ?? right ??
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Old August 21st, 2004, 06:04 PM   #4
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Old August 21st, 2004, 06:06 PM   #5
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I think Hotel Indonesia was the first skyscraper built in Indonesia ?? right ??
AFAIK.. yes..
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Old August 21st, 2004, 07:22 PM   #6
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Old August 22nd, 2004, 02:01 PM   #7
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Old August 22nd, 2004, 02:19 PM   #8
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Old August 30th, 2004, 06:06 PM   #9
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Hotel Indonesia

I was confused and disappointed with the news:

Quoted from beritajakata.com:

30 Agustus 2004
Perobohan HI & Hotel Wisata Akibatkan Puluhan Rumah Warga Rusak

Perobohan HI & Hotel Wisata Akibatkan Puluhan Rumah Warga Rusak
Puluhan rumah warga RT 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07 dan 014/RW 07, RT 01/RW 01, RT 03/RW 20 dan RW 03, Kelurahan Kebon Melati, Kecamatan Tanah Abang mengalami kerusakan yang amat parah. Rusaknya rumah warga ini sebagai imbas proses perobohan bangunan Hotel Wisata dan Hotel Indonesia.


Can anyone let me know if the 2 buildings are actually demolished?
Well, this is not my understanding when first heard HI is being renovated. Renovation for me is not demolishing and rebuilding. But major refurbushiment done to the building.

Would appriciate comment and last picture after 'being demolished'

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Old August 30th, 2004, 09:03 PM   #10
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Hi Tata,

Hotel Indonesia is a registered and protected historical bldg/landmark, and WILL NOT be demolished. Most of the structure and interior [Soekarno era murals, statues, etc.] w/ be untouched. Hotel Wisata in the back [AND the Bali Wing, towards the back of the orig. letter "L" structure] WILL BE DEMOLISHED.

The entire area of "Hotel Wisata" w/ be redeveloped into Commercial Bldgs > Mall, Apartments [it's a big area, and w/ wrap around the original Hotel Indonesia structure.

The area where the pool is today, w/ make way for an Office Tower [proposed height, anywhere between 45 - 60 floors].

For at least 10 years, Hotel Indonesia [and the State-owned Hotel Group] had been planned for privatization. I know, as I was involved as part of the Consulting Team on how to structure the deal & "highest & best use study", in mid 1990s, during the Economic Boom. It was clearly stipulated then, that Hotel Indonesia tower is NOT TO BE TOUCHED in the redevelopment. Hotel Wisata and HI's Hotel Wing is sitting on expensive land that is better used for other more commercial use. Therefore, that part w/ be demolished.

So all worries aside, we WILL still see Hotel Indonesia in its current physical appearance, only better!



Notice the orig. "Letter L" structure of the orig. Hotel Indonesia Tower + Wing [untouched]. The taller building behind it is the new Proposed Mall [Hotel Wisata site], wrapping around the complex, culminating in the Office Tower on left [HI Pool site]. Notice also the "billowing sail" roof structure on top of the Office Tower > mirroring Hotel Indonesia's 60s modernist roof!

This will no doubt be an very interesting addition to Jakarta's CBD Skyline, and center of commerce, together w/ Plaza Indonesia [and Kebon Melati/Waduk Melati Redevelopment behind it] as a true downtown experience, along the lines of Singapore's Orchard Road. Think of it as the "New Bunderan HI" of the future


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Old August 30th, 2004, 10:32 PM   #11
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TRANSFORM "HI" INTO AN ULTRAHIP URBAN BOUTIQUE HOTEL [a "W" Hotel perhaps?]

It would be great to see Hotel Indonesia repositioned as an uber-chic urban hotel. The architecture suggests downtown Miami [w/out the ocean view], a 60s modernist structure.

It should be repositioned as "THE REASON" to visit downtown Jakarta. Like all the "W" Hotels of the world [part of the Starwood Group of Hotels]

http://www.starwood.com/whotels/index.html

or Bangkok's Metropolitan Hotel
http://metropolitan.como.bz/bangkok/...sp?section=216

With the "IT" Bars, Lounges & Restaurants.

Basically THE hotel "du jour"!

ciao tutti,
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Old August 30th, 2004, 11:05 PM   #12
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so basically, what you're saying is that the hotel will be completely untouched, and that the only changes that are going to happen will be the mall and tower that will be built around it?
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Old August 31st, 2004, 01:10 AM   #13
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Hi 627,
Yes. Ofcourse the orig. hotel itself w/ be completely renovated, and re-positioned to compete w/ other luxury hotels. It may also include a new operator/hotel management co. Because for years, the holding co. - State-owned Hotel Indonesia Int'l [HII/Natour Group] - has been struggling. They actually have a portfolio of centrally-located hotels in major cities across Indonesia.
Plenty investors showed interest [pre-Crisis '97], but dealing w/ a State-owned enterprise w/ crumbling fixed assets in dire need of fresh capital, is not an easy task. And then ofcourse the Ec. Crisis came and everything ground to a halt. Private investors are basically looking at the land-value, as most buildings are old [most are from the colonial era too], and would require huge investment to re-do all the hotels in their portfolio. And the crown-jewel has always been Hotel Indonesia. That's why it took so long for Djarum to work out the deal > 30-year BOT [Build, Operate, Transfer]. If this deal is successful, I'm sure the rest of the hotel portfolio w/ be up for grabs.
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Old August 31st, 2004, 01:21 AM   #14
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oohh okay.. good.. haha cuz i think that that hotel looks HIDEOUS...
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Old August 31st, 2004, 01:42 AM   #15
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Hi 627, ha.. ha... hideous? I wouldn't call it that, coz I think the architecture is quite charming, but it certainly needs a make-over. ciao, dian
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Old August 31st, 2004, 01:47 AM   #16
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yeah! hideous! i mean.. look at them.. the two buildings dont even MATCH.. they dont even look like they're connected... and plus, those windows kinda look like jail cells.. cuz for one thing, theyre are reaaaally small.. and they have those little bar things.. soo ugly.. the mandarin hotel is kinda ugly too.. haha.. all of those ugly things should be renovated.. cuz then it would make that roundabout much more nicer.
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Old August 31st, 2004, 12:01 PM   #17
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yeah , your quite right 627 , it is hideous, i agree.
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Old September 2nd, 2004, 08:39 AM   #18
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Old September 2nd, 2004, 10:22 PM   #19
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I like the Shangri-La I spent here a couple of times as a guest. Hopefully they re going to resume building The Westin and Conrad Hotel. Before the Mariott blast I spend only one time at the Mariott , marvelous. I could go on and on saying where I stayed during my brief stop in Jakarta but I like them all ( the 5stars hhotels )
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