MADRID "LA CANADA" LARGEST SHANTY TOWN IN EUROPE

[turangalia]

europe can not accommodate all the misery of the world.
many Europeans are tired of all this invasion and feel they are not in their countries.
France built the mosques for Muslims
countries in Africa do not build churches for Europeans living there.
foreigners have all the rights in Europe;
Europeans outside of Europe have no right.

my motto is: everyone should stay in his country.

[medpaisa19]

Originally Posted by turangalia

europe can not accommodate all the misery of the world.
many Europeans are tired of all this invasion and feel they are not in their countries.
France built the mosques for Muslims
countries in Africa do not build churches for Europeans living there.
foreigners have all the rights in Europe;
Europeans outside of Europe have no right.

my motto is: everyone should stay in his country.

I can see your point but as far as I know more Europeans immigrated to the Americas than Americans to Europe. There have been millions of spaniards heading to Latin America for hundreds of years and in the last 20 years things turned the other way. Everything is a cycle maybe with this economic crisis over there more people will start coming to the Americas again. We can be the melting pot, but I like Europe to stay the way they are, just like I like Asia to be Asian with it's culture and stuff. I'm not a big fan of diversity hehe I like to feel culture differences as I travel around the globe instead of a big diverse culture planet. I'm kinda hard to get understood.

[turangalia]

Originally Posted by medpaisa19

I can see your point but as far as I know more Europeans immigrated to the Americas than Americans to Europe. There have been millions of spaniards heading to Latin America for hundreds of years and in the last 20 years things turned the other way. Everything is a cycle maybe with this economic crisis over there more people will start coming to the Americas again. We can be the melting pot, but I like Europe to stay the way they are, just like I like Asia to be Asian with it's culture and stuff. I'm not a big fan of diversity hehe I like to feel culture differences as I travel around the globe instead of a big diverse culture planet. I'm kinda hard to get understood.

sorry i was a little nervous, i am not racist i have turkish friends.
but I think there are foreigners not educated mostly young people who allow themselves to make what they want.
for example, to be served in a bank a pharmacy or in a store, everyone must wait his turn, while many foreigners do not wait, go ahead. lack of respect.

foreigners in our countries commit proportionately more crimes than native Europeans.
in France per example there are 10% foreigners, but in our prisons 35% of prisoners are foreigners.
I live near germany, I spoke with a German who told me: if you knew the problems we have in Germany with Russian people ? THEY make the mess everywhere.
I find this behavior disgraceful, ingratitude, we welcome them and they behave disgracefully

I understand why people leave their countries, in their home country, they have no right, can do anything while they romp in europe and do what they want. and no one has the courage to say anything

I sometimes say that Europe is the trash of the world.

and after when we condemn their behavior, they say we are racist.
really bad.the single argument they have.

last thing we are never saying, we always say that white people are racist. but people from asia or black people from africa are more racist.
because they are not accustomed as we are to be surrounded by foreigners.

the husband of my sister lived the shock of his life by flying from paris to tokyo. in the plane he was sitting next to a Japanese.
one stewardess spoke to this Japanese and said "we apologize sir if you are sitting next to a European." the husband of my sister understands their language
I don't want to put feets in japan, in terms of morals, socially this country is 30 years behind europe.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by 7kuna

I don't know if you live in golden cage or just delusional.

I live in Toronto and we have nothing remotely resembling this place. By your definition, I guess Toronto is a 'golden cage'.

This is what our 'slums' look like. Regents Park is the norm and is Toronto's biggest inner city public housing neighbourhood. It's undergoing a re-build to give these people a lift. As you can see, even before the re-development it was nowhere near as bad as those European districts pictured in this thread.

From this




To this

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by vidio

Zkuna completely agree with you.

In New york in Harlem and Brons there is almost more violence and almost more marginalized that in all of Europe.

7kuna said 'all big cities have slums like that'. Then he belittled me for suggesting that his statement wasn't true. Obviously, he's mistaken. US cities might have slums like this, but you'd be hard pressed to find anything approaching these European slums in Canada or Australia.

[medpaisa19]

I understand but you can't compare Europe to Canada or even the US. It's more like culture, those people are used to live in those situations and is really hard to get them out. That's the life they know and are used to it. I know a lot of immigrants that go with no money in their pockets to Spain and make a decent living so if people that may or may not have legal status can make it I can't see why not these people can't if they probably have been in Spain for a long time now. The immigrants that go to Canada are mostly educated professional people that just want to make more money. Spain is just a short boat ride from the poorest continent in the world, what's bordering Canada the US? Hope you can see where I'm coming from

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by medpaisa19

I understand but you can't compare Europe to Canada or even the US.

That's not the point. He claimed that all big cities have slums like that. He didn't say all European and all US big cities.

Btw, Canada takes in huge numbers of immigrants each year and lots of them come for desperately poor countries. Canada likely takes in far more people from poor countries than Spain does.

There's a reason Canada is considered a successful integrator of immigrants and its not solely for being a nation defined by multi-culturalism and inclusion. The social safety net and culture of not leaving people behind plays an integral part in all of it. The system isn't perfect, but Canada does remarkably well in this area.

[medpaisa19]

Maybe he's never been in this side of the world and thought that if every big city in developed europe had slums, then there's gotta be slums in every big city in the world. I'm a flight attendant and live in Cleveland I know Toronto very well it's a very short flight over the lake although I do love Madrid and can assure over 98% of it's population if not more don't live in those deplorable situations

[ArchiMos]

OH PLEASE, HERE WE GO AGAIN

THE SPANISH IS TALKING ABOUT THE IMMIGRATION... THE LAST THREE YEARS THE IMMIGRATION HAS STOPPED IN SPAIN AND THE QUANTITY OF THE FORIGNERS IS DECREASING IN SPAIN.

WHAT IS GROWING IS THE QUANTITY OF SPANIARDS THAT ARE IMMIGRATING THESE DAYS TO OTHER CONTRIES.

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF THE SPANIARDS LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY THIS YEAR TO GO TO GERMANY, ARGENTINA AND MEXICO.

SO TURANGALIA STOP COMPLAINIG HERE THE THINGS HAVE CHANGED ALREADY THE SPANIARDS ARE AMONG THOSE EUROPEANS WHO IMMIGRATE THE MOST NOW

[medpaisa19]

Originally Posted by isaidso

That's not the point. He claimed that all big cities have slums like that. He didn't say all European and all US big cities.

Btw, Canada takes in huge numbers of immigrants each year and lots of them come for desperately poor countries. Canada likely takes in far more people from poor countries than Spain does.

There's a reason Canada is considered a successful integrator of immigrants and its not solely for being a nation defined by multi-culturalism and inclusion. The social safety net and culture of not leaving people behind plays an integral part in all of it. The system isn't perfect, but Canada does remarkably well in this area.

Spain took almost 6 million immigrants in a decade, thats a lot of people for a country with a population less than 50 million. for not being a historical country of immigrants like Canada, US, Argentina, Australia. I believe Spain did very well too. immigrants went from 1% of the population to 14% within a decade thats impressive. Maybe im biased I just have a great time whenever I'm there

[turangalia]

TOXTETH, east of LIVERPOOL,
a deprived area in UK,
where 62 per cent of children and 52 per cent of pensioners live in poverty.

[Jonesy55]

Toxteth is a run-down inner city area (though most of it is nothing like as bad as those photos) with lots of housing scheduled for demolition as you can see by the empty streets of boarded up homes.

It isn't a shanty town though, there is no informally/illegally built housing or areas without public services.

[turangalia]

Originally Posted by ArchiMos

OH PLEASE, HERE WE GO AGAIN

THE SPANISH IS TALKING ABOUT THE IMMIGRATION... THE LAST THREE YEARS THE IMMIGRATION HAS STOPPED IN SPAIN AND THE QUANTITY OF THE FORIGNERS IS DECREASING IN SPAIN.

WHAT IS GROWING IS THE QUANTITY OF SPANIARDS THAT ARE IMMIGRATING THESE DAYS TO OTHER CONTRIES.

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF THE SPANIARDS LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY THIS YEAR TO GO TO GERMANY, ARGENTINA AND MEXICO.

SO TURANGALIA STOP COMPLAINIG HERE THE THINGS HAVE CHANGED ALREADY THE SPANIARDS ARE AMONG THOSE EUROPEANS WHO IMMIGRATE THE MOST NOW

are you crazy ? whats the problem with me ? i only posted pics of canada real at the beginning and since no more words from me about it.other members are talking about canada real and not me.i never said this district is a shame for madrid, look at the posts.
i know now that only gypsies are living there.
france has such districts too smaller yes but we have enough problems with immigration too, every rich countries have the same problems.

[vidio]

There are several errors.
The poor migrants gypsies who arrive in Canada are isolated is not organized caravans as in Spain are formed no want integrate .
It very easy and unfair to critize Spain.

Spain is a hot country and people enjoy outdoor living libre,In Canada and Rusia the cold would kill them.

The gypsies have free education and health in migrants Spain.

The government gives them money and return ticket to their country of origin and prefer to live in Spain.

Insurance in Spain who prefer to live in shacks that in Russia and in Canada in a Palace,

In Spain is more concerned over the Russian mob that live in neighborhoods luxurious mediterranean .

Spanish people are very human and draw these people to the strength of that neighborhood seems brutal.

[vidio]

Turangalia mix elephants with this issue is a low blow.

[turangalia]

Originally Posted by vidio

There are several errors.
The poor migrants gypsies who arrive in Canada are isolated is not organized caravans as in Spain are formed no want integrate .
It very easy and unfair to critize Spain.

Spain is a hot country and people enjoy outdoor living libre,In Canada and Rusia the cold would kill them.

The gypsies have free education and health in migrants Spain.

The government gives them money and return ticket to their country of origin and prefer to live in Spain.

Insurance in Spain who prefer to live in shacks that in Russia and in Canada in a Palace,

In Spain is more concerned over the Russian mob that live in neighborhoods luxurious mediterranean .

Spanish people are very human and draw these people to the strength of that neighborhood seems brutal.

yes its true spanish people is very human and much civilized as us frenchies.