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Old January 6th, 2013, 12:25 PM   #21
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Sultan plus Billionaire vs Gangsters?
I bet on Sultan/Billionaire combo anyday.
I absolutely agree with that LOL!

That part of JB (east of CIQ) is set to see an upgrade in profile with upcoming projects like Paragon Suites, [email protected] and Sky Suites all slated for completion in the coming years, so I won't be surprised if all this, together with the Vantage Bay developments, results in even further urban transformation in the years ahead.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 06:47 PM   #22
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Just drive from JB to Singapore , from 10.50pm super JAM at JB side .......reach Singapore CIQ at 12am ( Singapore side is smooth)... what the @#*%^ !!!!! ( non-peak hour OK !!)

Najib , please change someone at JB CIQ !!!!
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Old January 14th, 2013, 02:06 PM   #23
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Just drive from JB to Singapore , from 10.50pm super JAM at JB side .......reach Singapore CIQ at 12am ( Singapore side is smooth)... what the @#*%^ !!!!! ( non-peak hour OK !!)

Najib , please change someone at JB CIQ !!!!

Could it be changed by Najib ???
I think - "NO HOPE... TAM KU KU LAHHHH....."
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Old January 14th, 2013, 11:19 PM   #24
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Just drive from JB to Singapore , from 10.50pm super JAM at JB side .......reach Singapore CIQ at 12am ( Singapore side is smooth)... what the @#*%^ !!!!! ( non-peak hour OK !!)

Najib , please change someone at JB CIQ !!!!
This mother-of-all CIQs is supposed to perform magic to get rid of traffic jams once and for all..................
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Old January 15th, 2013, 01:04 PM   #25
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Just drive from JB to Singapore , from 10.50pm super JAM at JB side .......reach Singapore CIQ at 12am ( Singapore side is smooth)... what the @#*%^ !!!!! ( non-peak hour OK !!)

Najib , please change someone at JB CIQ !!!!

Alamak, CIQ matter also want PM to responsible?

JB CIQ is jam during until the late evening is because many Singaporeans are returning home. Their passports need longer time to process.

If you travel from Singapore to JB during weekend, it is also jam until midnight at Singapore side. But JB mostly smooth.

Usually when one side is jam, the other side is smooth.
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Old January 15th, 2013, 11:15 PM   #26
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Alamak, CIQ matter also want PM to responsible?

JB CIQ is jam during until the late evening is because many Singaporeans are returning home. Their passports need longer time to process.

If you travel from Singapore to JB during weekend, it is also jam until midnight at Singapore side. But JB mostly smooth.

Usually when one side is jam, the other side is smooth.
Well, it was built as a promise to JBians that traffic congestions would be a thing of the past.......

Totally unfulfilled, even more so with such a huge building. The old CIQ would do the same work.

Do you want to be responsible for millions used to build a white elephant?
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Old January 16th, 2013, 04:28 AM   #27
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Yes its a pretty shitty system they got thr. The mood just turn sour after a jam whether is coming out from the S'pore custom or JB side. MRT is so necessary.
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Old January 16th, 2013, 08:52 PM   #28
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Well, it was built as a promise to JBians that traffic congestions would be a thing of the past.......

Totally unfulfilled, even more so with such a huge building. The old CIQ would do the same work.

Do you want to be responsible for millions used to build a white elephant?
I am a frequent user of the JB CIQ, the only complaint I have is the car lane is too narrow which is evidenced from the scratches along the immigration booths. Other than that, the CIQ is functioning well. It is free from Jam most of the time.

Every infrastructure has a capacity factor, do not simply generalise an isolated incident. Some non-peak hours "jam" may be caused by a more thorough check or spot check by immigration or customs officer. It is the same in Singapore side too. I spend more than queue up in SG than in JB most of the time. Same thing happen in the Tuas CIQ, the jam is all the way before the bridge every morning. Every major border crossings in the world has the congestion problem.

Singapore side CIQ has many shortcomings too, our workers who help to build Singapore deserve a better motorcycle checkpoint, not a POW camp type, the bus stop inside the SG side CIQ is so horrible with not enough parking bay as compared to the JB one. If they can build so many bus interchanges why not do it inside their CIQ too?

Negative mentality would not help.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 09:38 AM   #29
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VANTAGE Bay, an integrated development in Johor Baru that will cost RM10 billion (S$4 billion) in its entirety, has received the nod of approval from the Iskandar Regional Development Authority.

The project is a joint venture between the Johor royal family and Singaporean businessman Peter Lim, and centres on a medical hub to be operated by Thomson Medical Centre. Mr Lim, a 70 per cent stakeholder in the development, bought out the medical group in 2010.

Spanning 10 ha, the waterfront project is a gated city with its own medical campus, residential apartments, hotels, convention centres, shopping malls and commercial offices, and will be fully completed in 10 years.

Thomson Specialist Hospital, a 300-bed tertiary hospital within the medical hub, will be supported by Centres of Excellence (COE) focusing on fertility, diabetes, cardiology and oncology. It will also strike up a public-private partnership with a private wing where medical specialists from public hospitals can practise.
If Johor property market continue at this pace.. Vantage bay residential will launch at Rm$2000 psf in 2014.
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 02:50 PM   #30
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If Johor property market continue at this pace.. Vantage bay residential will launch at Rm$2000 psf in 2014.
Can't wait to see the plans and designs! It'll certainly help transform the JB skyline.
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Old March 14th, 2013, 07:43 AM   #31
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i just bought a unit is paragon suits,so any advise for that area ?
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Well, it was built as a promise to JBians that traffic congestions would be a thing of the past.......

Totally unfulfilled, even more so with such a huge building. The old CIQ would do the same work.

Do you want to be responsible for millions used to build a white elephant?
Old CIQ would do the same work? Apparently you are not the frequent user of CIQ and casueway. The current CIQ is obviously not perfect (partly due to that crazy inflow of Singaporeans into JB in the recent years), but the old one is so much worse. It is normal to jam up entire jalan tun abdul razak, all the way to tebrau highway as far as pelangi back then. This CIQ diverted the traffic from essential road for JB-reans at least. Those who travels across borders deserve the jam (me included), spare the poor innocent JB local folks.
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Old March 14th, 2013, 11:07 AM   #33
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Dear Prof, this is nice place and opposite we can see Sembawang...
If this place is confimed to locate at Lido Beach near Foon Yew High School, we need to take care the personnel safety as a lot of Gangers will be there... Not safety area...
I am a Foon Yew graduate and frequent stulang laut go-er, I have never ever seen the gangsters you mentioned before.
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Old March 14th, 2013, 11:45 AM   #34
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I am a Foon Yew graduate and frequent stulang laut go-er, I have never ever seen the gangsters you mentioned before.
FY graduate too. I saw it once... Malay gangsters fight.
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Old March 14th, 2013, 11:12 PM   #35
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Old CIQ would do the same work? Apparently you are not the frequent user of CIQ and casueway. The current CIQ is obviously not perfect (partly due to that crazy inflow of Singaporeans into JB in the recent years), but the old one is so much worse. It is normal to jam up entire jalan tun abdul razak, all the way to tebrau highway as far as pelangi back then. This CIQ diverted the traffic from essential road for JB-reans at least. Those who travels across borders deserve the jam (me included), spare the poor innocent JB local folks.
First of all, the second link should have been built around Danga Bay area. Then they can build a decent sized CIQ to divert traffic away from JB's downtown, but yet close enough for many people to use it. Then they should have constructed a light rail to link both sides of the causeway to encourage more people taking public transit over to JB instead of driving. The toll at the causeway could be made to be more expensive and the old CIQ upgraded.

A complete study of transportation system and improvement would have been like that. However, our government and cronies were only interested in making money, hence we have a huge-butt CIQ in the middle of JB downtown and an underutilised 2nd link so far away.
That is my point, hope you understand?
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First of all, the second link should have been built around Danga Bay area. Then they can build a decent sized CIQ to divert traffic away from JB's downtown, but yet close enough for many people to use it. Then they should have constructed a light rail to link both sides of the causeway to encourage more people taking public transit over to JB instead of driving. The toll at the causeway could be made to be more expensive and the old CIQ upgraded.

A complete study of transportation system and improvement would have been like that. However, our government and cronies were only interested in making money, hence we have a huge-butt CIQ in the middle of JB downtown and an underutilised 2nd link so far away.
That is my point, hope you understand?
As far as I know 2nd Link is not underutilized at all. Jam every morning/evening during peak hours just like causeway. (I have friends who use second link every day).

Secondly, Danga bay area? Connected to which part of Singapore? Lim Chu kang? (shortest directly over the straits). Even less people would have used second link (Lim Chu Kang has nothing but farms and cemeteries). A linkage between two countries is a bilateral issue. I can totally see why second link is built across Tuas (industrial Area) and Gelang Patah (and hence Tanjung Pelepas port). Causeway targeting daily commuters while second link for industrial purposes (which now has daily commuters from the west as well).

Also, as far as I see it, the huge butt of CIQ at jb downtown can only be welcomed by local businesses, which most of them live off S$ travelling through JB down town day in day out. Without which expect JB downtown to be a ghost town during weekends.

Improvement, of course should always be implemented on an ongoing basis. Like demolish the whole lorry custom at CIQ and use only Second link, since it is merely a 30 mins drive away between two. Or less drastically, bar lorry from using causeway during peak hours.

and the light rail, should definitely be on top of the agenda of the government. Public transport in jb itself as a whole, is terrible.
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As far as I know 2nd Link is not underutilized at all. Jam every morning/evening during peak hours just like causeway. (I have friends who use second link every day).

Secondly, Danga bay area? Connected to which part of Singapore? Lim Chu kang? (shortest directly over the straits). Even less people would have used second link (Lim Chu Kang has nothing but farms and cemeteries). A linkage between two countries is a bilateral issue. I can totally see why second link is built across Tuas (industrial Area) and Gelang Patah (and hence Tanjung Pelepas port). Causeway targeting daily commuters while second link for industrial purposes (which now has daily commuters from the west as well).

Also, as far as I see it, the huge butt of CIQ at jb downtown can only be welcomed by local businesses, which most of them live off S$ travelling through JB down town day in day out. Without which expect JB downtown to be a ghost town during weekends.

Improvement, of course should always be implemented on an ongoing basis. Like demolish the whole lorry custom at CIQ and use only Second link, since it is merely a 30 mins drive away between two. Or less drastically, bar lorry from using causeway during peak hours.

and the light rail, should definitely be on top of the agenda of the government. Public transport in jb itself as a whole, is terrible.
At 2016, if everything goes smoothly..we will see many new condos at Johore city. The surrounding roads and facilities need to upgrade to meet the situation.I don't expect much. a clean and neat area like Ang Mo Kio town is good enough.
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At 2016, if everything goes smoothly..we will see many new condos at Johore city. The surrounding roads and facilities need to upgrade to meet the situation.I don't expect much. a clean and neat area like Ang Mo Kio town is good enough.
Absolutely agree. Authorities at IDR need to spend some of the expenditures on basic infrastructure instead of pouring all onto mega structure highways etc.

I am still having a neck sore waiting for all lamp posts at JBCC area to be upgraded to those with underground wiring, as well as pedestrian side walks at all major roads.
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Just wondering the location of vantage bay.. Beside foon yew high but that piece of land doesn't look like 10 ha..? Comments guys?
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