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Old February 5th, 2014, 10:06 PM   #481
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Ubs looked into moving elsewhere, particularly canary wharf. British Land didn't not want to lose them nor did the city so they bent over backwards to give Ubs the new HQ they wanted. You have to be a but naive to think a new HQ built specifically for a main client had no input from it.
Yes, of course UBS looked into moving into Canary Wharf. Which bank hasn't looked into it? That's irrelevant, though! The question is whether UBS used threats or pressure to force MAKE to design this ugly building, and to force the City to kowtow to their diktats. There is no evidence to suggest they did. All UBS did was provide a brief that asked for massive floor plates. Later on, they asked the tunnel to be removed because it was a Death Star-like gaping-hole of a security threat. That's all of UBS's involvement. Everything else was down to the architect: cladding, size of windows, form, detailing, materiality, etc.

The argument which DarJoLe is peddling, whereby somehow this ugly design is entirely the fault of UBS bullying the City, is a ludicrous bit of banker-bashing political propaganda. The clue is in the fact that he ended his comment with "stop this global race now".
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Old February 5th, 2014, 10:14 PM   #482
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Oh do give it a rest, we both find the building awful.
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Old February 7th, 2014, 04:38 PM   #483
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I think "ropey" is the most polite way I can think of to describe the design
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Old February 7th, 2014, 09:01 PM   #484
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Wow, this looks like the illegitimate offspring of the East India Dock DataCentre cluster... Would fit in perfectly...

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View of Canary Wharf and East India Dock by nic0, on Flickr
That's the London Internet Exchange (LINX)

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Old February 12th, 2014, 09:02 PM   #485
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Really starting to loom over its surroundings

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Old February 12th, 2014, 09:46 PM   #486
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I recognise that view... or even that stairwell!
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Old February 19th, 2014, 01:48 PM   #487
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i don't want to seem like a nag, but important lesson here is that if you oppose a building, you have to write an official letter to the planning department at the right time.

Only two individuals took the opportunity to object. I was one of them btw.
Despite all the objections and dismay in the press and in conversation, only two people took part in the democratic process and everyone elses opinions were ignored, as they always are.

Next time a building is proposed that's no good, write an objection!
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Old February 19th, 2014, 01:55 PM   #488
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Here's a video I took showing how beautiful Broadgate was before this building was built.

http://youtu.be/yOhpt_sMkqw
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Old February 19th, 2014, 03:37 PM   #489
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The thing is, we have all taken part in that process in the past and to no avail. I was recently part of a campaign near my parent's home to stop an ugly development which is being built on a state school's playing fields in a conservation area. We managed to put hundreds and hundreds of complaints on the council's website, including several from EH, as well as the 20th C. Soc., TfL (complaining about the amount of car-parking) and some badger charity and wildlife charities, a sports-for-kids charity, and several opposition politicians.

Despite that, the developers (Berkeley) made no real concessions. They re-jiggled the massing a tiny bit, IMO making it even worse.
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Old February 28th, 2014, 06:18 PM   #491
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Youre totally right of course. The Planners might be swayed but there will have been lots of political pressure to get that estate through because of all the money it promised the council. Only if you get your councillors to support you when it comes to the final councillor vote, will it make a difference.

Its a shitty and awful process, but occasionally you prevent something from happening. ie Smithfield public inquiry today - hopefully the public will win, and the city of London corporation and its money and power and disregard for heritage or the city normal people enjoy, will lose. if it doesn't, then you can be assured that nothing you say will make the slightest difference.
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