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Sepang International Circuit - Malasia 103 10.18%
Melbourn GP Circuit Albert Park - Melbourne, Australia 91 8.99%
Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari - San Marino 24 2.37%
Nurburgring - Germany 57 5.63%
Circuit de Catalunya - Catalunya, Spain 36 3.56%
Circuit de Monaco - Monaco 223 22.04%
Silverstone Circuit - England, Great Britain 66 6.52%
Circuit Gilles Villeneuve - Canada 69 6.82%
Indianapolis Motor Speedway - USA 52 5.14%
Hockenheiem-Ring Motodrom - Germany 33 3.26%
Autodromo Nazionale Monza - Italy 113 11.17%
Suzuka International Racetrack - Japan 79 7.81%
Interlagos - Sao Paulo, Brazil 177 17.49%
Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours - France 23 2.27%
Other (Newer Circuits): Shanghai Intl. ; Hungaroring Sport, Hungary; Bahrain Intl. ; Tomsfed, Turkey 184 18.18%
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Old July 12th, 2017, 01:23 PM   #1561
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curious on your thoughts about the stripes in Abu Dhabi, which are now painted in pink

I want to experience a GP Formula 1. Not any LSD trip.
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The route of a proposed street race around the city of Copehnagen has been revealed by a group planning a Danish Grand Prix for 2020 and beyond. A Danish consortium have developed a plan for a 4.5 kilometer circuit, which would run past the Christiansborg Palace and go over two different harbour bridges, according to a report in the Jyllands-Posten newspaper. Planners hope cars will be able to reach 300 km/h along one of those, the Knippelsbro Bridge.



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The report states the €40 million plan is being backed by Danish business magnate Lars Seier Christensen (a former personal sponsor of Romain Grosjean), and former MP Helge Sander and has been provisionally signed off by new Formula One owners Liberty Media. It also reports F1 circuit designer Herman Tilke visited the city in March of this year to oversee the planned route.

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Despite the apparent sign-off by the FIA and Liberty, Danish media also says the circuit still needs support of politicians on a local level to go ahead, with elections taking place later this year which will likely to have a big say in whether the race goes ahead.

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Old July 12th, 2017, 11:15 PM   #1563
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Yas Marina will be ugly with new color, i repainted that in F1 Challenge game and do some laps with 2017 mode.
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Old July 13th, 2017, 01:20 PM   #1564
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i've heard these rumours and went to lokk at a Copenhague map to see where it would be possible. couldnt find any place.

looked againd now to see that specific route. and i dont see how it would be possible. where would the pit lane be? there is not space for it. as well as the paddock

the only way to make this real, is to make a new circuit, in a not urban area, to be the centerpiece of a new neighbourhood (like Korea wanted, but never did)
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Old July 13th, 2017, 11:22 PM   #1565
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Looks like its the end of the Road for Silverstone

F1 is moving to East London
Good news. Silverstone is boring to dead.
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Old July 16th, 2017, 02:36 AM   #1566
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Good news. Silverstone is boring to dead.
Its one of 'the circuits' where F1 belongs. And no, Silverstone is not boring. Ask the drivers. Hamilton, Vettel, Verstappen, to them it is one of there favorits.
So how wrong can you be.
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Old July 16th, 2017, 12:46 PM   #1567
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Old July 16th, 2017, 12:48 PM   #1568
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Good news. Silverstone is boring to dead.
Silverstone is one of the last circuits where an F1 car can truly show what it is capable of. Stand outside Copse, or on the outside of the Becketts complex, and the cornering speeds are incredible. It may not be a gin palace circuit like Abu Dhabi, but it's a proper drivers' track.
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Old July 18th, 2017, 08:47 AM   #1569
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Donington is not an option?
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Donington Park has no interest in running the British Grand Prix, even if Silverstone decides to abandon hosting Formula 1.

When asked if Donington would consider trying to host the British GP if Silverstone did pull out, current circuit managing director Christopher Tate said: "Absolutely not.

"We've set a very clear target of keeping the trace of the circuit as it is.

"We've no interest in hosting modern, high-speed single-seaters because we'd have to completely change Donington Park."
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Old July 18th, 2017, 08:58 AM   #1571
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Formula One owners Liberty Media are confident that the British Grand Prix will remain on the race calendar beyond 2019 despite Silverstone's owners activating a break clause in their contract.

Sean Bratches, F1 managing director for commercial operations, is confident that the race has a long-term future at the Northamptonshire circuit.

"We are very optimistic about the future with our friends here at Silverstone," he told CNN's The Circuit.

"We have three great Grand Prixs under contract left -- 2017, '18, and '19 -- and a lot can transpire between now and the end of '19."

"We're fans first. We're committed long term to a British Grand Prix. We're standing on the home, on a terra firma and the home of motorsport, the home of Formula One, and I am very confident that there is going to be a British Grand Prix for many, many years in this wonderful country."
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Old July 18th, 2017, 08:05 PM   #1572
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It's not like Silverstone is going away for sure, they just need to negotiate a new deal and will be back in business.
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Tour de France went to Spa-Francorchamps

I knew that Spa was hilly but those cyclists really put into perspective how steep it is there. Very cool.
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If they ever start in Germany again they should start, or do a time trial, at the nürburgring nordschleife. That would be a cool and though circuit to do that with all the hight differences.
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If they ever start in Germany again they should start, or do a time trial, at the nürburgring nordschleife. That would be a cool and though circuit to do that with all the hight differences.
Old and gone cyclist Gerrie Knetemann won his worldtitle on the Nordschleiffe. In 1978.
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Old October 22nd, 2017, 10:03 PM   #1576
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In honor of today's race, this shot was tweeted by Formula1. It shows the tower, amphitheater, pit building and turns 18, 19 and 20 of the track. And an awful lot of Texas range land.

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Old December 5th, 2017, 11:30 PM   #1577
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Inside Line: Why Dubai never got a grand prix



Dubai was the first of the Persian Gulf countries to flirt with the idea of hosting a grand prix as Bernie Ecclestone targeted expansion into the region, but a series of interesting circumstance conspired against the plan and as a result, Bahrain became the first venue for Formula 1 in the region followed by Abu Dhabi.

When I arrived in Dubai in 2004 to take up the role as Photo Director of Gulf News the city was a sliver of what it is today, a massive boom was evident in the numerous construction projects that dotted the landscape. The Dubai dream was in full swing.

Legend has it that shortly after the turn of this century Ecclestone flew to Dubai for a meeting with Sheikh Mohammed Al Maktoum, the ruler of Dubai, to negotiate a deal for a Formula 1 race in the Emirate.

A track was already in the process of being built for this purpose – Dubai Autodrome – on the outskirts of the city. The plan was to build it in several phases with a grand prix at the venue the ultimate goal.

Ecclestone arrived in Dubai and was whisked off to a palace for the meeting with the ruler but was kept waiting and waiting…

This annoyed the F1 supremo to the point that while he bided his time he made a call to the rulers of Bahrain, who had also shown an interest in hosting a grand prix, and asked them if they were serious about their bid.

They of course were and, tired of waiting for the meeting with the Sheikh, Ecclestone ordered his private jet to be fired up – destination Bahrain – returned to the airport and departed for Manama.

What transpired is now history, as Bahrain’s vision for Formula 1 became reality. They built the Bahrain International Circuit and in 2004 a grand prix was held in the kingdom which Michael Schumacher won. The venue remains part of the Formula 1 calendar to this day.

Dubai continued to boom and the idea of a Formula 1 race was shifted to the back burner as Sheikh Mohammed focused instead on developing other mainstream sports events such as the Rugby Sevens, Dubai Open tennis, the Dubai World Cup horse race and international golf.

Dubai Autodrome opened around the same time as the first Bahrain Grand Prix happened and from the outset was (and is) a circuit much appreciated by drivers. A challenging 5.4 km track which came to life with the hosting of the 2004 FIA GT Championship, European Touring Car Championship and Formula Renault V6 Eurocup.

Since then the venue hosted the now defunct A1 GP and GP2 Asia and has hosted an annual 24 Hours race for GT, sports cars and touring cars since 2006. Over the years of working there, I was privy to inside information and can report that NASCAR, Indycar, DTM, WEC, MotoGP all made approaches thinking (erroneously) that there was limitless money to throw at racing. There was and there is none.

Of course these days the dream of a grand prix is a very distant memory.

Between 2004 and 2008 Dubai boomed in a manner that few modern cities have done in history. From a sedate seaside city it turned into a sprawling metropolis, glittering with stupendous highrise structures, including the world tallest building. The transformation was astounding even to those who lived through the years of non-stop construction.

But in 2007 the global crisis struck and while Dubai at first seemed immune to the collapse, in 2008 the city felt the wrath of the financial catastrophe. By the time the dust settled the Emirate was all but bankrupt.

The scars of 2008 remain. Amid the city’s skyscrapers remain unfinished projects, abandoned by lack of funding and left to rot to this day. While new projects, including the multi-billion dollar canal, emerged and have been completed. But the skeletons remain on the landscape.

Dubai Autodrome, owned by property company Union Properties, felt the brunt of the crisis, teetering on the verge of collapse. It never really recovered and the results of neglect at the racing venue they own are clearly visible.

The track remains, defiant as it still is a much respected and probably the most used piece of racing tarmac in the region. But the decaying surrounds provide cruel evidence into how Dubai woke up to what proved to be a bad dream.

A skyscraper hotel whose shadow falls on Turn 3 remains empty and slowly decaying in the desert heat. Next to it, along the stretch from Turn 1 to Turn 3 is a decomposing structure which at one point harboured lofty ambitions of being a motor mall.

Also adjacent to the venue, opposite the management building, is a hotel that was also never finished and remains a skeleton that welcomes visitors as they enter Motor City, the constantly evolving residential area that surrounds the race track.

Ironically, while two hotels stand to rot, a third has since been built overlooking the final turn and set to open in January.

How long the Autodrome remains is a constant source of debate. Union Properties in its current guise is an excuse for a company, without any interest whatsoever in the circuit or motorsport for that matter.

It is no secret that Union Properties are keen to re-zone the prime land which the track occupies so that they can tear it down and expand the residential area that surrounds it, but the mandate they have from the ruler of Dubai handed to the previous cabal that ran the company (to the ground) is to run and maintain the Autodrome as a motorsport complex until 2024.

Thereafter it is unknown what will happen, but we do know what the owners have in mind…

History shows that when the opportunity arose for a second grand prix in the Gulf, Abu Dhabi seized the opportunity and pumped a whopping $1.3-billion to build Yas Marina Circuit. In 2009 it hosted a grand prix for the first time and remains on the calendar ever since.

You may ask, how did Abu Dhabi find the money to achieve the goal while Dubai failed?

Having lived in the UAE for over a decade I always explain the difference between Dubai and Abu Dhabi by likening the cities to two sisters:

Dubai is the sister who is brash, over-the-top, ostentatious, loud and a tart of sorts with all her flash and bling of zirconias and plastic. On the other hand, Abu Dhabi is more demure, conservative and proper, but her jewellery is the real deal, namely diamonds and proper pearls.

Dubai tends to do things first but with little substance, while Abu Dhabi does it right and built to last.

And most importantly, Abu Dhabi has real money thanks to having 80% of the country’s oil production and reserves. Dubai has none of this, surviving by busking and works as a business hub which cares little about the colour of the money or where it originates from…

Invariably talk of a grand prix in Dubai emerges every now and then. Talk of a street race has done the rounds recently, but the truth is that such a project would cost half a billion dollars to happen, money the city coffers does not have.

As for Dubai Autodrome, the venue would need around $200-million so that it could host Formula 1 to the standards required by the sport.

However, with Abu Dhabi Grand Prix (60km down the road) and their seven star Yas Marina Circuit firmly entrenched on the calendar, a Dubai Grand Prix will not happen in the foreseeable future yet, even an ePrix discussion came and went without any real progress.

Once again Dubai was the first to toy with the idea of a grand prix in the region after all Ecclestone made it his first port of call for a race and only being stood up by the Sheikh scuppered the deal.

And of course, along came the other sister – Abu Dhabi – and did it properly.

https://www.grandprix247.com/2017/12...-a-grand-prix/

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Liberty evaluating F1 circuit design tweaks to improve racing

Formula 1 chief Ross Brawn has revealed that Liberty Media is investigating whether changes to grand prix track layouts are needed over the next few years to help improve the racing.

While research is ramping up about tweaks to car designs – to make overtaking easier by allowing cars to follow each other more closely – it has emerged that a parallel project has begun looking at how track designs can be bettered too.

Brawn, who is managing director of motorsports at F1, says that if the sport can better understand what makes a good track for racing, then current venues can be tweaked.

Speaking about potential long-term changes to the sport to improve overtaking, he said: "The aerodynamic programme is now starting to pick up pace, and the work on circuit development is happening.

"We have already got engaged with some circuits about possible modifications to improve racing."

Motorsport.com recently revealed that Melbourne considered changing a section of its circuit to add an overtaking spot, but in the end elected against the idea for now because it was not convinced the tweaks would definitely improve matters.

Brawn said the Liberty investigation involves looking back through F1 history to understand what elements are needed to produce the kind of racing that fans actually like.

"We have started looking in our archives," he said. "Were there periods of racing where there was more overtaking? Are there tracks where there is more overtaking? So you can do a statistical analysis.

"The thing you have to be careful of is that overtaking isn't good racing. You have got to start to think about what is good racing – and it is two cars fighting each other.

"It may mean the guy in front stays in front but you can have some great racing going on. It is a little bit more complex than the number of overtakes, counting the number of overtakes.

"What we are seeing so far is the ability to take different lines through corners is quite important to help racing.

"So if you have got a hairpin and it is a narrow track, it is not that great. If you have a hairpin and it is a wide track, where there can be some different lines going into it, then you can get something happening.

"Austin, I think, would fall into the category of where there is a complex of corners. So, you take a line on one corner going in, and then you start to force the defending car to start taking different lines. And then eventually you come out in the right place. That is what we are looking at."

Brawn also said that track surface was a factor too in helping the racing, with smooth, low degradation asphalt not conducive to good entertainment.

"The surface is quite important to the racing because the type of surface can create degradation and a reasonable degree of tyre degradation is helpful to racing because you start to get performance differentials," he said.

"It doesn't want to be the band aid to fix it. But if you look at circuits with very low degradation, like Sochi, the racing there is challenging and it is one stop. The tyres don't go off, so away you go. There are no performance differentials created.

"If you look at some of the great races we have had this year, there have often been tyres involved in terms of degradation levels, so the guy defending – like [Kimi] Raikkonen, defending on tyres that were not as good as the tyres Max [Verstappen] had attacking him. The surface is quite a factor in terms of the racing you get."

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none of the side buildings in construction yet

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