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Old March 24th, 2016, 03:36 PM   #1901
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Are there any plans to have a high speed line between Genova and Firenze? Perhaps going along the coast via La Spezia to Pisa and then Firenze?

It would connect middle/southern Italy to western Europe.
Very difficult terrain, there is a project to link Milano with Genova with a high-speed link. In any case, the line to France through the coast is too slow, the real France-Itally connection will be the Torino-Lyon high speed line, which connects to high-speed lines in Italy and France. It will probably faster to travel Firenze-Marseille via Milano, Torino, Lyon than through the coast.
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Old May 3rd, 2016, 06:56 PM   #1902
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Number of high-speed passenger

Passengers in Frecce (Trenitalia) HS trains (millions)
1989: 0,500
1990: 0,695
1991: 0,800
1992: 0,901
1993:
1994:
1995:
1996: 3,348
1997:
1998:
1999:
2000: 15,510
2001:
2002:
2003:
2004: 20,712
2005:
2006:
2007: 23,430
2008: 23,882
2009: 33,374
2010: 35,155
2011: 37,941
2012: 39,838
2013: 42,000
2014:
2015:

Source: (2009/2011) Eurostat Transport: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do Bilancio trenitalia 2011: http://www.fsitaliane.it/cms-file/al...talia_2011.pdf Ambiente, più passeggeri sulle Frecce meno Co2: nel 2012 emissioni abbattute di ulteriori 60mila tonnellate: http://www.fsnews.it/cms/v/index.jsp...008916f90aRCRD Le Frecce Trenitalia per l'ambiente: in 2013 oltre un milione di tonnellate di CO2 in meno nell'aria: http://www.fsnews.it/cms/v/index.jsp...008916f90aRCRD

Passengers in Italo (NTV) HS trains (millions)
2012: 2,052
2013: 6,199
2014: 6,600
2015: 9,100
TOTAL: 23,951

Source: Italo supera il muro dei 2 milioni di passeggeri nel 2012: http://www.ntvspa.it/it/ntv/pagine/1...-nel-2012.html NTV Bilancio 2013: http://www.ntvspa.it/ntvupload/utils...2013%20ENG.pdf y Ferrovie.it: http://www.ferrovie.it/forum/viewtop...797&start=6675 El operador privado italiano NTV transportó 9,1 millones de viajeros en 2015: http://www.vialibre-ffe.com/noticias...=19789&cs=inte

Passengers-kilometers in Frecce (Trenitalia) HS trains (billions)
1989: 0,200
1990: 0,300
1991: 0,400
1992: 0,400
1993: 0,500
1994: 0,800
1995: 1,100
1996: 1,300
1997: 2,400
1998: 3,640
1999: 4,460
2000: 5,090
2001: 6,760
2002: 7,080
2003: 7,430
2004: 7,925
2005: 8,550
2006: 8,910
2007: 8,820
2008: 8,877
2009: 10,746
2010: 11,610
2011: 12,283
2012: 12,310
2013: 13,277
2014:
2015:
TOTAL: 145,168

Source: UIC

Passengers-kilometers in Italo (NTV) HS trains (billions)
2012: 0,484
2013:
2014:
2015:
TOTAL:

Source: calculated from the UIC data unless the Frecce passengers from Trenitalia.

Trenitalia (FdS) only publishes Frecce train travelers data. The Premium long distance division includes Frecciabianca trains, traveling at up to 200 km/h on high-speed lines, although most of its route is done by conventional lines; Frecciargento trains (250 km/h) alternating both types of lines, and Frecciarossa (300 km/h) which usually run on high-speed lines.



Passengers and Passengers-kilometers world data, and explanation of the fact that the operators and the UIC count -in some cases- the number of passengers on high-speed trains, not on high-speed lines.
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Old May 4th, 2016, 03:53 PM   #1903
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Frecciarossa 1000 and Italo NTV at Milano Centrale FS
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Old July 15th, 2016, 12:14 PM   #1904
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Tendering begins for Naples - Bari high-speed line
Friday, July 15, 2016



ITALFERR, the engineering subsidiary of Italian State Railways (FS), published a tender notice in the Official Journal of the European Union on July 9 for a contract to design and build the first section of the €6.2bn Naples - Bari high-speed line

The contract has an estimated value of around €400m and covers the 15.5km Naples Afragola - Cancello section of the line

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Old August 5th, 2016, 01:22 AM   #1905
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Milan–Bologna high-speed railway. Frecciarossa, Frecciarossa 1000, .Italo

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Old August 18th, 2016, 02:53 PM   #1906
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Testing begins on Treviglio - Brescia HSL
Thursday, August 18, 2016



HIGH-SPEED testing is underway on the Treviglio - Brescia high-speed line in preparation for the start of commercial operations in December

To gain certification for 300km/h operation from the National Authority for Railway Safety (ANSF), an ETR 1000 Frecciarossa set is being tested at speeds of up to 330km/h. A Trenitalia ETR 500 high-speed train has been used for ETCS Level 2 testing

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Old September 7th, 2016, 03:00 PM   #1907
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NTV orders more Pendolinos from Alstom
Wednesday, September 07, 2016



THE president of Italian open-access operator NTV Mr Andrea Faragalli and Mr Michele Viale, managing director of Alstom Italy signed a contract in Rome on September 7 for the supply and maintenance of four additional Pendolino tilting trains

The agreement also extends the maintenance term for the eight Pendolino sets ordered by NTV last October from 20 to 30 years

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Old September 10th, 2016, 01:58 PM   #1908
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Tilting or non-tilting?

http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/t...no-option.html


I know the idea of a non-tilting Pendolino seems strange.
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Old September 10th, 2016, 10:55 PM   #1909
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I know the idea of a non-tilting Pendolino seems strange.
I think most Pendolino's on this planet are non-tilting. China and Poland come to mind.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 09:17 PM   #1910
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China and Poland together have about 170 non-tilting sets. All Italian variants and the British class 390 together already gives you about the same number, so when you add the Spanish, Finnish, Czech, Slovenian and Swiss sets currently the tilting models are still in the majority.

I haven't counted the ICE T, because despite using pendolino technology they weren't built by FIAT or Alstom.
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Spanish trains S-114 are also New Pendolino not tilting.

I found no place to say that Evo trains are tilting. So they will be used only in HSR, although not understand.

And I say: tilting, and not: natural pendulous, as this is a proprietary technology Talgo: "Pendular by Talgo" (not tilting, cars are not inclined supported by the boogies but hanging: like a pendulum)
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Old September 16th, 2016, 06:11 PM   #1912
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I think most Pendolino's on this planet are non-tilting. China and Poland come to mind.
Anyway 'Pendolino' originally was Italian nickname of the the train which tilts making a sort of pendulum movement
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Old September 16th, 2016, 06:39 PM   #1913
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I want to see 300km/h tilting trains
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Speaking of pendolinos, there is an interesting video of the pre-HSL era in Italy when tilting trains were the only way to speed up travel


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Old September 19th, 2016, 12:31 AM   #1915
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Are there any plans of a high speed line along the east coast?
Something like; Milano-Parma-Bologna-Rimini-Pescara-Bari?
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Old September 19th, 2016, 07:48 AM   #1916
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No, no way.

That line will be enhanced and updated to 200 km/h, nothing more than that.

A HSL on the Adriatic coast would mean destroying the environment cutting again the land, like A14, actual line and SS16 already do. The only way would be to build in inland, meaning 80% of tunnels or so.

Unbearable.
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[4K] Train Spotting Italian high speed ETR 500, ETR600, ETR575

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