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Old August 23rd, 2004, 04:58 PM   #1
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Petaling Jaya VS Subang Jaya

Battle of 2 of the most industrialised cities in Klang Valley! Lets compare!

PJ's population - 400,000+
SJ's population - 500,000+

PJ's tallest - 30 storey AMSuites
SJ's tallest - 35 storey Sunway Pyramid Hotel

PJ's largest malls - 1-Utama, Ikano Power centre, Amcorp Mall, Giant, Atria
SJ's largest malls - Sunway Pyramid, USJ Summit, Subang Parade, Carrefour

PJ's leisure park - ?
SJ's leisure park- Sunway Lagoon

PJ's Most happening township - SS2
SJ's most happening township - USJ taipan? SS15?

Convention centers in PJ - ?
Convention centers in SJ - Sunway Pyramid Convention Centre

PJ top Hotels - Hilton, Armada
SJ top Hotels - Sunway Lagoon Resort Hotel, Holiday Villa, Sheraton

PJ's most upmarket residential neighbourhood - Tropicana
SJ's most upmarket residential neighbourhood - ?

PJ's Biggest college - KDU?
SJ's Biggest college - Inti? Monash? Sunway?

PJ's biggest factory - ?
SJ's biggest factory - ?


KL's best gift to PJ - Putra LRT access?
KL's best gift to SJ - Subang Airport?


some Pj Views (pjnet.com.my site down lah..else can get lots of pics!)




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Old August 23rd, 2004, 05:32 PM   #2
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I believe that PJ's biggest factory is Nestlé.
Got this from the Nestlé Malaysia webpage:

Nestlé in Malaysia

Nestlé's commitment to providing quality products
to Malaysians dates back more than 90 years ago.
Nestlé began in Malaysia in 1912 as the Anglo-Swiss Condensed Milk Company in Penang and later, growth and expansion made a move to Kuala Lumpur necessary in 1939.

Since 1962, with its first factory in Petaling Jaya,
Nestlé Malaysia now manufactures its products in 8 factories and operates from its head office in Petaling Jaya, and 6 sales offices nationwide.

The Company was publicly listed on the KLSE on
13 December, 1989. Today, the Company employs over 3,500 people and manufactures as well as markets more than 300 HALAL products in Malaysia.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 05:52 AM   #3
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Hmmm...I thought PJ is more like a district rather than a township like Sunway. Is this a fair comparison
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Old August 24th, 2004, 06:05 AM   #4
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erm..this is Petaling Jaya vs Subang Jaya lah and Sunway is in Subang. BTW, when it comes to population and development, they are comparable
Each of them has their own townships like PJ has the SS, Sections, Damansara Perdana, Kelana Jaya(i think it's partly subang and pj..right?) while Subang has SS, USJ, Puchong..
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Well Sunway Pyramid does not fall under Subang, they call it Sunway, Petaling Jaya.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 07:02 AM   #6
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But MPSJ in charge of Sunway, so I think it should be under Subang Jaya.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 07:25 AM   #7
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Nope I don't think so. MPPJ is in charge of Sunway la..
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Old August 24th, 2004, 07:39 AM   #8
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Amcorp Mall through PUTRA line in Klang Valley @..................
maybe not so far from Bangsar.

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Old August 24th, 2004, 07:52 AM   #9
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Me also don't like Amcorp Mall. But the Sunday flee market is a good place to find something extraordinary
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Old August 24th, 2004, 12:13 PM   #10
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This article said Sunway is under MPSJ since 1997

SUBANG JAYA

Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ) uses two different valuation systems to determine rates in different areas of the municipality.

Formerly known as the Petaling District Council, it was upgraded to a municipal council in 1997 and inherited two major areas ? Subang Jaya and Bandar Sunway from MPPJ.

These two areas are assessed using the valuation rates of 1992. The rest of the new municipality is assessed using the council?s 1996 valuation system.

Due to its urban location, all properties, including land, in Bandar Sunway and Subang Jaya are assessed at a uniform 8% rate regardless of whether they are classified as housing, commercial, industrial or agricultural.

In Puchong, Seri Kembangan, USJ, Kampung Bukit Lanchong and Putra Heights, rates for housing property is five per cent, commercial and industrial properties are at 6%t and agricultural land at 2%.

Bills for the second half of the year were sent out in July. Ratepayers have until Aug 31 to pay up.

MPSJ was one of the earliest among local authorities in Klang Valley to implement Internet payment facility. There are also other modes of payment available, including electronic banking, direct debit and auto billing.

Those who prefer the old fashion way of paying at a counter can do so at post offices, the MPSJ head office in USJ 5 and branch offices in Puchong and Seri Kembangan, as well as in Carrefour Subang Jaya and Tesco in Puchong.

Over RM58mil in assessment is owed to MPSJ since 1997. The bulk of this is due to commercial and industrial property owners. MPSJ has started a lucky draw drive at its counters in Tesco and Carrefour to encourage ratepayers to pay up on time.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 07:32 PM   #11
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Yes.....Baqthier is right! PJ was splitted into 2 with the creation of MPSJ. MPSJ's jurisdiction includes Puchong and Seri Kembangan. The article posted by Baq confirmed MPSJ's boundary

I remember the big hooha when MPSJ was first created!

But like Farid had pointed out......there are bound to be confusion as most Sunway-based companies still categorised themselves under PJ....dunno why
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Old August 24th, 2004, 07:50 PM   #12
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PJ's largest malls - 1-Utama, Ikano Power centre, Amcorp Mall, Giant, Atria
SJ's largest malls - Sunway Pyramid, USJ Summit, Subang Parade, Carrefour, IOI Mall, MINES Shopping Fair

PJ's leisure park - ?
SJ's leisure park- Sunway Lagoon, MINES Wonderland

PJ's Most happening township - SS2
SJ's most happening township - USJ taipan? SS15? Pusat Bandar Puchong

Convention centers in PJ - ?
Convention centers in SJ - Sunway Pyramid Convention Centre, MINES Convention and Exhibition Centre

PJ top Hotels - Hilton, Armada
SJ top Hotels - Sunway Lagoon Resort Hotel, Holiday Villa, Sheraton, Palace Of The Golden Horses, MINES Resort

PJ's most upmarket residential neighbourhood - Tropicana
SJ's most upmarket residential neighbourhood - MINES Resort Country Homes

PJ's Biggest college - KDU?
SJ's Biggest college/university - Inti? Monash? Sunway? University Putra Malaysia



KL's best gift to PJ - Putra LRT access?
KL's best gift to SJ - Subang Airport? Selangor Turf Club

Note: Subang Airport (now Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport) isn't under the jurisdiction of MPSJ but MPSA
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Old August 25th, 2004, 11:59 AM   #13
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What's good about Subang Jaya (the original SS and USJ)? to mention a few..

Subang Parade- ideal, no nonsense, straight to the point shopping.
Federal Highway, NKVE, SAE, NPE, LDP, NSCL- and a few more.
Canai & Such- I'm sure u've heard
Little green padangs- neighbourhood social venues in the mornings and evenings, really.
Carrefour, Giant- The firsts in the country
Nice-looking houses- especially in USJ
Dozens of 7 11s, McDees, KFCs... -and all the other pengaruh barat

anymore to add guys, or subtract?

Honestly speaking, PJ is on another league. It's older, matured and more diverse. But its your choice, both were after all mainly residential developments. Think I like Subang Jaya just the way it is.
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Old August 25th, 2004, 07:03 PM   #14
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Subang Parade- ideal, no nonsense, straight to the point shopping.
Federal Highway, NKVE, SAE, NPE, LDP, NSCL- and a few more.
Canai & Such- I'm sure u've heard
Little green padangs- neighbourhood social venues in the mornings and evenings, really.
Carrefour, Giant- The firsts in the country
Nice-looking houses- especially in USJ
Dozens of 7 11s, McDees, KFCs... -and all the other pengaruh barat
I love Subang Parade when it first opened cause it had Malaysia's first Toys R Us! ......other than that not much to see or do there

As for highways....hmmm....I hate the stretches that criss crosses MPSJ territory (incld Puchong and Seri Kembangan) cos all these stretches ALWAYS jam teruk!

Canai & Such had looses its charms already as it had moved to the 'upper class'. I used to be a die-hard fan ( since those days when it is known as Ravi's! ). Other notable ones I always go to are Darussalam (esp before renovation) and the one in USJ 4 (next to Taipan.....forgot name liao).

As for PJ......nothing could beat Murni for its large drinks (esp Longan Lychee) and Pelita for its cleanliness. Not to mentioned the many mamaks around Uptown and Section 14! Even those near Paramount Garden isn't bad


Padangs are found everywherelah including 30-years old housing estates in Cheras!

PJ has got the country's first and only IKEA. The first Cold Storage also in PJ. The first TGV Cinemas also in PJ

As for nice-looking houses - SS3 (also known as Kg. Tunku) had tons. Not to mention Bukit Gasing and Tropicana! ........BU and D'sara Mutiara/Perdana had some of the nicest looking terraces (pre-renovation) around


As for pengaruh barat.....well......PJ had the largest and most 'high-tech' drive-thru McD outlet at BU. Not forgetting the country's first 24-hrs fastfood restaurant - A&W at PJ Old Town.

So PJ is a serious contender here too!
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Old August 25th, 2004, 07:20 PM   #15
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Sze, here are some other points backing up your claim!

The country's longest operating 5-star hotel is Hilton PJ, which has been around since 1984!

One of the first modern bowling alleys used to be in PJ. This was Kent Bowl in Asia Jaya (now Armada Plaza). It closed down in 1998(?) after Pyramid's opening and is now a discotheque.

The first highway in the Valley (the Fed) cuts through PJ!

The first modern shopping malls outside of KL were in PJ, which were the Asia Jaya and Jaya SC (Cold Storage). Both have been around since the late 70s.

The first Parkson Grand store was opened in PJ's Atria complex in 1990(?).

Oh ya, and do not forget the famous "Wai-Chek-Kai" of ss2, the most happening non-alcoholic nightspot!
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Canai & Such. Never heard of the name before. Is it a restaurant or what. Where is it located
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Canai & Such = Ravi
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Old August 26th, 2004, 11:16 AM   #18
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Canai & Such. Never heard of the name before. Is it a restaurant or what. Where is it located

Canai & Such used to be Ravi's at SS15 SJ (near Taylor's and INTI). Then they now had a few notable (and higher class) outlet namely The Gazebo which is also at SS15 (next to the drive-thru McD) .....quite near to Subang Parade and a 'cafe cum mamak' at USJ Taipan. Not forgetting Malaysia's most expensive mamak - Canai & Such Sunway (opposite Sunway Lagoon Resort)!
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Old August 26th, 2004, 11:24 AM   #19
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Sze, here are some other points backing up your claim!

The country's longest operating 5-star hotel is Hilton PJ, which has been around since 1984!

Oh ya, and do not forget the famous "Wai-Chek-Kai" of ss2, the most happening non-alcoholic nightspot!

hahaha...thanks! I am supporting BOTH SJ and PJ actually

Longest operating 5-star hotel is PJ Hiton meh? I think KL Hilton which started wayyyyback in 1971 is the longest lah (ceases operations in 2002 and reopened as Mutiara KL) There are many KL hotels which are 5-stars including The Concorde and Federal Hotel which are 5-stars too but it seems the likes of em had been downgraded to 4-stars ........How about Genting Hotel which had been operational since 1978? Isn't that 5-star too?

SS2 'Wai sek kai' ( Cantonese pronounciation ) is definitely one of the main draws of PJ and arguably the watery hole and the reason SS2 became what it is today .....there used to be a 'VCD Kai' (VCD Street) in SS2 (next to 'Wai Sek Kai') many years back - until the authorities started clamping down VCD stalls in 2001
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Old August 27th, 2004, 01:40 PM   #20
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Hey, why u guys getting so protective over PJ la? I didn't say PJ is bad wat...

Anyway Sze, here's my rebuttal. Enjoy...

Subang Parade is exactly what it is, a true-blue, no-frills shopping centre. Thats why it's very relaxing to shop there, no distractions. It's still popular and enjoys very high occupancy rates. It was the longest shopping complex in the region at one time also, which I'm sure u know also la.

Jams in SJ normally happen during peak hours only, mainly at Fed exits, Jalan Kewajipan, and the two roundabouts. Besides, a lot of traffic is also from outside of SJ, bypassing traffic into Shah Alam, etc. But during off peak periods, SJ is (one of) the most connected neighbourhoods in the valley.

Well, canai and such has a popular outlet in SS14 which is very much like your regular mamak. Even the upmarket ones are doing pretty well if I may say. Food is still good.

Talking about firsts, Subang has Tesco rite? The first in the country as well.

Think Subang has more cinemas than PJ too.

Oh, and have you been to our SS13 pasar malam? The cleanest ever.

SJ's nice-looking houses are not limited to the exclusively rich. That's the difference.

That's about it for now, or it can go on and on. See what u guys have to say first...
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