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Old May 14th, 2013, 05:03 PM   #10961
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Old May 14th, 2013, 05:03 PM   #10962
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Has anyone see this video for VisitIndy.com?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=jB9URXAI-ws
Meh. Too much focus on the buildings of ICVA members.

I wish I had a budget and a year to hire someone and go do an amazing time lapse of the city. There's lot of things that could be very impressive. Firstly, yes, I'd spend plenty of time at the Speedway. Plus the State Fair. And many other great items that aren't generic across America.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 05:04 PM   #10963
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TAKE 2!

That sad little building under the highway on College south of 16th street is moving forward towards rebirth. I think it's been empty and graffiti covered my entire life.

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Old May 14th, 2013, 05:06 PM   #10964
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Here's one for you. Not a great video and you scan safely skip the opening cheesy scene. But it shows an example of how it does not take some super-great Manhattan like urban environment to attract immigrants. Immigrants love the suburbs. Indy's got great suburbs even inside the city limits. The sky is the limit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n3HQ9uge0g

BTW: SGV = San Gabriel Valley in the LA area. 626 is its area code
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Old May 14th, 2013, 09:11 PM   #10965
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Meh. Too much focus on the buildings of ICVA members.

I wish I had a budget and a year to hire someone and go do an amazing time lapse of the city. There's lot of things that could be very impressive. Firstly, yes, I'd spend plenty of time at the Speedway. Plus the State Fair. And many other great items that aren't generic across America.
I wish you had the time and budget to do it too. There are some great time lapse videos you have posted on your blog. Would love to see a great one of Indy.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 09:14 PM   #10966
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I am pretty sure that someone was working on one here about a year ago. I do not know how close it is to completion but someone who cares about the urban fabric here was putting it together.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 09:40 PM   #10967
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I think it's tough to pull off a good video for Indy because the temptation is to try to make something that convinces the viewer Indy has similar urban characteristics to all the other cities featured in those super-cool videos. But it doesn't. Indy has it's own characteristics, and a great video of Indianapolis would showcase those with pride.

The best video of Indianapolis will likely be accidental. Just like the best song about Indianapolis isn't "Indianapolis Indeed" but instead is "Indianapolis" by the Bottle Rockets, a St. Louis band that really does seem to hate Indy, but nevertheless wrote an amazing song about it that I think captured at least a few aspects of the city correctly.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 09:48 PM   #10968
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If you don't know the song (or even if you do!) here's a recording Brian Henneman did of it with Jay Farrar and Jeff Tweedy of Uncle Tupelo. This is from 1991. I think Indianapolis might actually be the first Bottle Rockets song ever - it's at least close to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTsuhJCW5RY

"....I'll puke if I that juke box plays John Cougar one more time."
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Old May 14th, 2013, 10:33 PM   #10969
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If you don't know the song (or even if you do!) here's a recording Brian Henneman did of it with Jay Farrar and Jeff Tweedy of Uncle Tupelo. This is from 1991. I think Indianapolis might actually be the first Bottle Rockets song ever - it's at least close to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTsuhJCW5RY

"....I'll puke if I that juke box plays John Cougar one more time."
I've never heard this song. Not bad.

If we're going to go the accidental-best-video-of-Indy route, then we could do worse than go with the Onion.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 10:54 PM   #10970
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The actual song on albums and performed live is very rocking, incidentally.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 11:01 PM   #10971
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Can't go wrong with Rock n' Roll.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 11:07 PM   #10972
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That's pretty funny.

Aaron you may be spot on about how the film would be depicted. Who can say. Let's just hope it wouldn't be a montage of Carmel & Fishers. ;-)
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I'm not saying there's no room for standard urban video stuff. By all means do Monument Circle, Broad Ripple Ave, integrate some of the Super Bowl footage, the memorial mall, Mass Ave, the Cultural Trail, the Airport terminal etc. But it can't be nothing but that. Again, I want to see plenty of Speedway footage (time lapse would be awesome in the pits at the 500, and it's natural type of event/venue for tilt shift effects - and the infield in the night before, awesome . The State Fair is a must. I always want to see people eating at Peppy's Grill I wanna see plenty of honky tonks and neighborhood dive bars. Yes, I do want to see some suburbs. I want to see people barbecuing in back yards, camping out overnight at somebody's house in Speedway, lots of run down foursquares, industrial/factory scenes, etc.
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Clearly this is the best Indianapolis video ever. This was one of Menudo's greatest hits! Hell, we even have our own dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WcwYOTGuuA
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moochie, I'm basing that on statements I've heard the Brian Henneman make during the many times I've heard the Bottle Rockets in concert.

If you ever get a chance, look up their song "Manhattan Countryside." It's the best anti-rural high song every written.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 01:19 AM   #10976
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I'm not aware that any of them are classicaly trained. I think all three of them are tremendousy talented musicians, but I wouldn't say they are guitar virtuosos.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 03:29 AM   #10977
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(Yawn) as we move from architecture geek stuff to music geek stuff...

Meanwhile, at New York and Delaware...
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Old May 16th, 2013, 03:53 AM   #10978
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The mindset of the modernist architect was aptly captured by Ayn Rand in the character of Howard Roarke. He was the "people's architect" who claimed to be motivated to the betterment of society but ultimately was all about his own ego, and who didn't care what anyone else thought about his buildings and dismissed his critics as squelchers who didn't represent the actual masses.
Very little pisses me off more than this exact misunderstanding. Ayn Rand didn't "capture" anything, she created an easily-drawn simplistic character to stand in for her egocentric ideas, who then somehow became everyone in the world's notion of what an architect is. You're not "picking on" Rand by stating the obvious impact she's had in causing the world to distrust architects. **** that book. Modernism from Weissenhof Seidlung on down was about housing the masses in healthy, equitable, above-standard structures and communities. It wasn't about ego, it never was, any more than ANY creative or business pursuit is.

Aaron, you know better.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 05:54 AM   #10979
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Indy Star Building Redevelopment

Regarding the Indianapolis Star building redevelopment, I think there is no lack of creativity in designs as presented. What I think is needed is better massing and at least a nod to Tippecanoe Street. When I look at the Penn St. elevation, the horizontality and the lack of height variation is jarring when compared to the extremely vertical American Building.

I think the following photoshopped images might be more appropriate than what is proposed:

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Penn Reformed by hostetlermatt, on Flickr

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Penn Reformed 2 by hostetlermatt, on Flickr
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Old May 16th, 2013, 06:09 AM   #10980
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Regarding the Indianapolis Star building redevelopment, I think there is no lack of creativity in designs as presented. What I think is needed is better massing and at least a nod to Tippecanoe Street. When I look at the Penn St. elevation, the horizontality and the lack of height variation is jarring when compared to the extremely vertical American Building.

I think the following photoshopped images might be more appropriate than what is proposed:

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Penn Reformed 2 by hostetlermatt, on Flickr
Good point. For comparison, here is the developer's Pennsylvania Street rendering. Yuck!

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