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Old October 16th, 2017, 03:16 PM   #2101
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Lots of rumours about BMW moving Mini production out of Oxford
Lots of rumours about it staying too.

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Decision to build fully electric model at Cowley eases fears German carmaker would shift production outside UK after Brexit
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Old October 16th, 2017, 09:36 PM   #2102
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Old November 1st, 2017, 08:45 PM   #2103
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The new MG XS ZS is here! The other day there was some sort of a launch do at a stately home near Towcester (incidentally directly between London and Birmingham) and my local MG dealership has taken delivery of its own model and is having a launch party on Saturday. I wish it was being built - or at least assembled - at Longbridge, but there we go.

I didn't realise they'd gone back to using the ZS name again - it was supposed to be the XS in the UK, but it seems they've changed their minds at the last minute! Using an old MG model name is a bit controversial.

http://mg.co.uk/mg-zs/
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Old November 1st, 2017, 11:58 PM   #2104
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Aren't those no longer being made in the UK?
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 01:45 AM   #2105
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No they're not, hence my wishing they were still made at Longbridge. The headquarters are still there though - I think.
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 09:01 AM   #2106
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Not even bolting the wheels on at longbridge now.
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 11:43 AM   #2107
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They remind me of the Renault Kadjar.
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 07:39 PM   #2108
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Reminds me of a less attractive and under-wheeled Mazda CX3

MG used to stand for cheap sports cars and characterful warmed up saloons. You'd be hard pressed to get further than those brand values with this beige suv. The concept sketches look great but this turgid lump hardly resembles them. I don't get SAIC anymore, they just come across as clueless. Their nomenclature also makes my brain hurt and I fail to understand why they recycled the ZS name following GS. At least something like XE, XF & XJ has some logic to it. I'm guessing it's driven by legislation but the reboot of the family face doesn't help either.
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Old November 6th, 2017, 05:57 PM   #2109
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The government funding for autonomous vehicles has been awarded

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The £51 million funding will be allocated across the UK: £31 million in the West Midlands, £7 million in Oxfordshire and Bedfordshire, and £13 million in London.
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Old November 6th, 2017, 06:18 PM   #2110
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Reminds me of a less attractive and under-wheeled Mazda CX3
Looks similar to an E-Pace too:
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Old November 11th, 2017, 10:18 PM   #2111
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That's only one part of what is actually required. I want to see much more funding spent here for alternative fuel/electric vehicles.
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Old November 11th, 2017, 10:44 PM   #2112
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The energy storage element is £246m and WMG have put forward a strong bid.
Should find out soon results.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 06:40 PM   #2113
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The UK's biggest car manufacturer, Jaguar Land Rover has been testing driverless cars on public roads. The trials have been underway for several weeks on a half-mile route in Coventry city centre. The vehicles rely on sensors to detect traffic, pedestrians and signals but have a human on board to react to emergencies. Car makers and tech firms are competing hard to tap into the new technology....
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Old November 19th, 2017, 02:36 PM   #2114
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I think driverless cars and reduced costs through electrification will change the dynamic of this country far, far more than any other technology and will be up their with the internet for social change. Conceivably, you could live anywhere in the UK and work anywhere else, and use the travelling time to sleep, eat, work, (I think I have just described my current life), relax and socialise. Will there actually be a need for mass transport such as buses and trains? It will also do wonders for old people and people with disabilities.
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Old November 19th, 2017, 04:48 PM   #2115
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I think driverless cars and reduced costs through electrification will change the dynamic of this country far, far more than any other technology and will be up their with the internet for social change. Conceivably, you could live anywhere in the UK and work anywhere else, and use the travelling time to sleep, eat, work, (I think I have just described my current life), relax and socialise. Will there actually be a need for mass transport such as buses and trains? It will also do wonders for old people and people with disabilities.


Trains and trams will be redundant. Busses won't make as much sense either.

Our streets won't be littered with cars any more because people won't own their car. They'll just summon one using an uber style app. Houses with parking spaces and garages won't be as desirable.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 03:07 AM   #2116
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What rubbish. People will always want the freedom to just drive. Gimme a dry B-road and clear skies anyday...
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Old November 21st, 2017, 03:15 PM   #2117
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If this is the case then we might as well cancel HS2 - those against it would be right after all as it would just end up being a white elephant which no one needs to use.

I also think people will still want to have their own personal cars even if they're driverless.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 03:23 PM   #2118
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If this is the case then we might as well cancel HS2 - those against it would be right after all as it would just end up being a white elephant which no one needs to use.

I also think people will still want to have their own personal cars even if they're driverless.
All new cars will have a self driving ability, so you can choose the uber option or have your own self driving car. People will still want the pleasue off driving too, but that will be a lifestyle/hobby choice.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 04:31 PM   #2119
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Trains and trams will be redundant. Busses won't make as much sense either.

Our streets won't be littered with cars any more because people won't own their car. They'll just summon one using an uber style app. Houses with parking spaces and garages won't be as desirable.
I'm sorry there a several flaws to your argument. Firstly trams and trains will still enjoy several benefits of cars they do now. The tram from Altrincham to Manchester city centre takes approx. 25mins. In the dead of night with all the traffic lights in my favour I would struggle to do that in my car. And I'm sure a self-driving car would be a lot more conservative with the speed limits and rules of the road

The streets will still be cluttered with cars, congestion could be even worse as empty cars, cars that would otherwise be on a drive or in a car park, are on the road scurrying from one user to the next.

Lastly, cars aren't just for carrying people. They carry a lot of 'stuff' too. I have to carry a load of surveying equipment, tools, a laptop, PPE clothing materials samples etc., I'm not unloading that each time, it lives in my car. I imagine lots of other people work the same way. And not just for work, I imagine there's a lot of 'stuff' carried in family cars that's there for children, there's sports/gym gear, loads of 'stuff' that lives in the boots of cars people want to leave there.

( I would be happy though if houses with drives and garages became cheaper though... )
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Old November 21st, 2017, 08:23 PM   #2120
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If people are willing to pay to own their own car then they will. Most people won't want to pay the extra money and they will adapt.

Self driving cars will be integrated with the traffic lights and the other cars on the road. This means you won't stop at lights very often. There won't be traffic jams very often either. The cars will be able to drive very close together and all accelerate at the same time.

On the motorways driverless cars should eventually be able to drive at 150 miles an hour. We just have to wait for the public to gain confidence in the technology.

Basically it'll be like the Will Smith film I Robot.

If you want to drive a car you'll be considered a nuisance like someone on a horse is now.
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