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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:00 PM   #301
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Well I think Mr Mandelson's comment sums up this wretched governments attitude to manufacturing and our region. What is his response to the announcement of the closure of a major factory in Birmingham? "I think it's good news overall!"

Thank you Mandy, please never again send one of your puppies to my door to try and get me to vote for your rabble as I may not be able to control my behaviour.

This bloody shower need to go and go now!
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:09 PM   #302
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My gut feeling is that Lode Lane will be the one for the chop. The land value for housing will be greater than Castle Brom. The negative exposure from knocking down 'the spitfire factory' wouldn't do JLR any favours either.

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Either way a very bad day for the Midlands
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:09 PM   #303
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It wouldn't surprise me if they capitalise on the land value of Solihull and close that, moving production to somewhere in Heartlands. LDV site? And allow for future expansion?

How many jobs are we looking at losing?


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I agree, this goverment will encourage job growth in Liverpool over Birmingham any day, and any ifluence it has would have been to secure jobs on Merseyside. Another body blow for the city. If anything we will be the economic basket case Liverpool was in the eighties if this continues.

Bournville next ?
I have mixed feelings about Cadbury. Sure I don't want them to be taken over, but they have been on the acquisition trail for years, doing exactly what we don't want Kraft to do now.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:17 PM   #304
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Jag XJ, XK and XF: all produced at Castle Bromwich
Land Rover Discovery, Defender, Range Rover and Range Rover Sport: all produced at Solihull.

All that Halewood has is the Freelander - so what if the LRX is 'supposed' to be coming there - it was assured that the Jaguar XK (X150) was going to be produced at Browns Lane, and we all saw how that turned out....

Also, geographically Halewood is the odd one out. The journey to and from there is a nightmare for the engineers, and an additional expense to the company, both in terms of cost and resource.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:23 PM   #305
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“Confirmation that the LRX is to be built at Halewood will help to end the uncertainty at the plant, with the added prospect of some new jobs in the pipeline. It’s a testament to the workforce, who have made the plant one of the most productive in Europe.

“The Government has shown its support for this project with investment of £27 million announced earlier this year. I know that trading conditions are difficult for the car industry as a whole. It is inevitable that we will see further re-structuring across the industry.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:24 PM   #306
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Well I think Mr Mandelson's comment sums up this wretched governments attitude to manufacturing and our region. What is his response to the announcement of the closure of a major factory in Birmingham? "I think it's good news overall!"

Thank you Mandy, please never again send one of your puppies to my door to try and get me to vote for your rabble as I may not be able to control my behaviour.

This bloody shower need to go and go now!
It's not really Darth Mandelson's fault - JLR has too many factories and they are not a volume producer. They simply don't need so much capacity and Halewood is unlikely to close for reasons already discussed.

Unfortunately, Britain's car plants suffered from lack of investment since the war, as their owners preferred to take profits out rather than plough them back in - and when it was all nationalised it was a complete mess and losing money - this has left them in a pretty poor state and uncompetitive.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:31 PM   #307
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In fairness the industry is undergoing consolidation. There are efficencies to be made from having 2 car plants only a few miles apart.
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Old September 25th, 2009, 10:35 AM   #308
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According to this article (http://iccoventry.icnetwork.co.uk/01...name_page.html) the Brown's Lane veneer plant is closing [Presumably this work'll be outsourced?] and Whitley is going to become the HQ.
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Old September 25th, 2009, 11:48 AM   #309
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With the volumes produced by JLR (at a guess 200,000) they only really need one site anyway... give it five years they'll probably build the volume models in India, with only R&D and the specials built here. That makes the most economic sense.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 03:57 PM   #310
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Apparently JLR are also disposing of Brown's Lane (Veneer making, 500 people) and moving the HQ to Coventry.
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Old October 6th, 2009, 10:38 AM   #311
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Former LDV executive takes on MG sales role
Oct 6 2009 by John Cranage, Birmingham Post

Former LDV executive Guy Jones has won a new job at MG Motor UK, the Chinese-owned sports car manufacturer based at Longbridge.

He has been appointed sales and marketing director at MG where he will be responsible for UK sales, marketing, public relations, after-sales and brand development.

Mr Jones was previously marketing director at LDV, the Birmingham van company that collapsed in June. His appointment was confirmed amid speculation last night that up to 25 jobs at MG’s production line at Longbridge were set to be cut.

In LDV’s final months, he was responsible for launching a daily blog to keep the company’s workforce up to date on efforts to save the company, which at the time was owned by the Russian automotive conglomerate Gaz, run by oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Since June, administrators PricewaterhouseCoopers have been negotiating with a number of potential candidates to take over the LDV brand and assets.

They are now believed to be engaged in exclusive talks with Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC), the ultimate owner of MG.

Mr Jones, who held senior marketing roles at Bentley and Kia before joining LDV, was yesterday quoted by the website MotorTrader.com, as saying: “I am delighted to join MG at the most exciting time in its 85-year history.

“MG is a much loved iconic British brand that now has SAIC as a proud new owner, capable of developing the brand on a global basis.

“SAIC are already playing a leading role in China, now the world’s largest car market, and have ambitious global plans for the MG brand.

“I am looking forward to playing a key role in developing this exciting new business.” Mr Jones could not be contacted for further comment yesterday. MG builds cars on part of the old MG Rover site at Longbridge after Nanjing Automobile Corporation, which is now part of SAIC, bought the production assets of the failed British carmaker in July, 2005, for £53 million.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 06:18 PM   #313
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LDV assets sold to Chinese firm

Machinery at LDV in Washwood Heath could be shipped out to China

The assets of the Birmingham van maker LDV are to be sold to a Chinese vehicle engineering firm, administrators have announced.

LDV went into administration on 6 May but production stopped last Christmas.

PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) said it had exchanged contracts earlier with China Venture's firm Eco Concept, after weeks of "intensive" negotiations.

BBC Midlands transport correspondent Peter Plisner said it meant much of the machinery and plant would go to China.

He said: "It seems likely now that most of the company's machinery will be shipped from Birmingham to China with echoes, perhaps, of what happened at MG Rover, where hopes of a Chinese rescue turned out to be a false dawn."

LDV employed about 800 staff at its Washwood Heath plant in Birmingham in April and an estimated 1,200 people were employed in LDV dealerships.

Thousands more workers were also employed by firms manufacturing parts for LDV.

Simon Jennings, former managing director of Kayjay engineering, which used to make LDV parts, said: "At this moment in time, we would be happy to do business with any new LDV company."
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LDV assets 'sold to Eco Concept'

The assets of stricken van maker LDV are to be sold to a company owned by a former consultant of the MG Rover Phoenix Four directors.

Administrators announced that they had exchanged contracts with Eco Concept - a vehicle engineering firm owned by China Ventures, headed by Dr Qu Li, who was revealed in last month's Government report to have had a personal relationship with one of the Phoenix Four while working as a consultant for MG Rover.

Dr Li received £1.6 million for consultancy services to the Rover group in the 15 months before the firm collapsed.

LDV administrator PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) said it had secured the deal after nine weeks of "intensive" negotiations and was hopeful that the sale would complete within the next month.

However, PwC dealt a blow for hopes that production would be resumed at the Birmingham-based firm's site at Washwood Heath, saying the new owner intended to relocate the assets.

LDV's buyer, Eco Concept, said it wanted to launch a new company making specialist light vehicles, but a spokesman said the Washwood Heath site was not suitable for its planned smaller scale production operation.

Eco Concept is aiming to recruit around 200 workers for the operation at a new site in the West Midlands, although it is not yet clear if the firm plans to take on the 34 staff left at LDV.

Most of LDV's 850 workforce were made redundant in June after the firm collapsed into administration following a failed rescue bid.

LDV, which was owned by Russia's Gaz, suffered financial difficulties, culminating in production being halted in December.

A last-ditch rescue attempt failed in June after Malaysian company Weststar could not raise funds to buy the business.
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Old November 20th, 2009, 08:23 PM   #314
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SPYKER RELOCATES TO THE UK
Dutch supercars to be built in Coventry from next year




Spyker Cars is relocating its manufacturing operation from the Netherlands to Coventry, in a surprise move the company says will bring considerable improvements in manufacturing efficiency.

Sales, marketing and the racing operation will apparently remain in situ at the firm's HQ in Zeewolde, and while it's good news for the UK it may not be such a good Christmas for the factory workers affected in Zeewolde. Full details are contained in the Spyker press release below.

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Spyker Cars N.V., manufacturer of exclusive premium sports cars, announces today that it will relocate vehicle assembly to its supplier, CPP (Manufacturing) Ltd, UK.

By relocating its assembly lines from Zeewolde to Coventry, Spyker will achieve considerable improvements in efficiency and substantial cost-reductions. The relocation is expected to be completed by the end of this year.

Of the 135 Spyker employees in the Netherlands, approximately 45 jobs will be directly affected. A full social plan will be prepared in consultation with the trade unions, and Spyker will work with the trade unions to assist the employees concerned in finding a new job. Engineering, Corporate staff functions, Sales, After-Sales, Marketing and "Spyker Squadron", the company's Works' GT race team, will remain in Zeewolde. Management will continue its efforts to reduce costs and further headcount reduction may not be excluded.

Victor R. Muller, CEO of Spyker Cars stated: "In these challenging times, a small manufacturer like Spyker has to find ways to reduce costs as well as improve its efficiency. By relocating vehicle assembly to CPP (Manufacturing), which was Spyker's very first contracting partner at the inception of our company in 2000 and has been one of our most trusted partners ever since, we secure the future of our business".

"With approximately half of our vehicles' parts and components sourced in the UK, and virtually all key suppliers being located there, moving closer to our suppliers and engineering partners will result in substantial savings and tangible efficiency improvements".

"We realise that jobs will be affected in the Netherlands but we believe this move is necessary under the current economic circumstances and is in the best interest of the company and all of its stakeholders," he added.

Brendan O'Toole, Managing Director of CPP (Manufacturing), stated: "We have worked closely with Spyker since 2000 when we built their very first prototype chassis, and have grown with Spyker to become one of the leading low-volume manufacturers in the industry. We will maintain the highest standards of quality in the assembly of Spyker vehicles, while at the same time achieving significant cost reductions and operational efficiencies for Spyker".
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Old November 20th, 2009, 10:10 PM   #315
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How interesting. A car maker moving assembly to Coventry rather than out - which has been the norm since the 1980s!
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not a big fan of the car design (gullwing doors) but excellent news for the Midlands!
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How interesting. A car maker moving assembly to Coventry rather than out - which has been the norm since the 1980s!
Niche automotive manufacture is is still viable in this country. Aston, RR, Bentley, Lotus, Morgan, McClaren, etc. It's the mass market stuff that's really suffered from cheaper foreign labour.

The reasons are pretty obvious quoting CPP they "currently manufactures the complete aluminium chassis and body assemblies for all Spyker cars and has the expertise to deliver high quality cost-effective low-volume manufacturing solutions."

Along with a skilled workforce in Coventry, the exchange rate is also helping as UK labour now much cheaper then Dutch when priced in Euros.
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Niche automotive manufacture is is still viable in this country. Aston, RR, Bentley, Lotus, Morgan, McClaren, etc. It's the mass market stuff that's really suffered from cheaper foreign labour.

The reasons are pretty obvious quoting CPP they "currently manufactures the complete aluminium chassis and body assemblies for all Spyker cars and has the expertise to deliver high quality cost-effective low-volume manufacturing solutions."

Along with a skilled workforce in Coventry, the exchange rate is also helping as UK labour now much cheaper then Dutch when priced in Euros.
JLR are niche as well - they're certainly not mass market.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 05:01 PM   #319
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New MG6 to be built at Longbridge site in Birmingham
Nov 24 2009 by Graeme Brown, Birmingham Post
Add a commentRecommend The first new MG for 14 years has gone on show in China – and by the end of next year the new car will be built on a production line at Longbridge.

Based on the Chinese-made Roewe 550 – which itself is based on a shortened version of the old Rover 75 – it will be called the MG6 when production starts in Birmingham.

The new model will be produced in saloon and hatchback form and will complement the two-seater MGTF being built at Longbridge.

Early production models have been revealed at the Guangzhou Auto Show which opened yesterday.

The launch in China, the world’s largest automotive market, begins the international roll out of sales of the MG6 which includes the UK. Sales in China will begin in January and plans for the UK and other markets will be released during 2010.

A spokesman for MG Motor UK Ltd said: “This new model marks the start of one of the most exciting periods in the 85 year history of the iconic MG brand, as it prepares to expand globally, starting with the world’s largest automotive market in China.”

Guy Jones, sales and marketing director for MG Motor UK, said: “This is a milestone day for the iconic MG brand and for the UK automotive industry.

“MG has begun the international launch of an all-new model that has been designed and engineered here in the UK, for the global automotive market.

“Currently we only build and sell the mid-engined TF sports car here in the UK, but we can now look forward to expanding the range of MG products.”

It was also announced at the Guangzhou show that production of the MG6 for the China market will begin at the brand new state of the art factory in Lingang, China in December 2009. It is planned to commence production of the MG6 at the Birmingham plant in the UK before the end of 2010.
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Might have been designed in the UK but it wasn't designed by UK designers, by the looks of it. Looks like it's come straight out Japan. I guess it's sounds positive at this stage but things can always change.
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