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Old March 12th, 2003, 11:36 AM   #61
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The 235m Bligh Apartments have a floor dimension of only 19m deep x 55m wide. So its about 1000sqm per floor.

Bligh Apartments RL is 247m.
Sydneys highest above se alevel-

Sydney tower-331m (roof-295m)
MLC-250m
Bligh Apts-247m
World Tower-246m
GPT-244m
Chifley-242m (spire-267m)
Citigroup-228m (spire 265m)
126 phillipst-224m (spires-267m)
Qantas-204m
AMP-203m


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Old March 13th, 2003, 10:02 AM   #62
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>The 235m Bligh Apartments have a floor dimension of only 19m deep x 55m wide. So its about 1000sqm per floor.

Bligh Apartments RL is 247m.
Sydneys highest above se alevel-

Sydney tower-331m (roof-295m)
MLC-250m
Bligh Apts-247m
World Tower-246m
GPT-244m
Chifley-242m (spire-267m)
Citigroup-228m (spire 265m)
126 phillipst-224m (spires-267m)
Qantas-204m
AMP-203m


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im surprised GPT has a lower RL then WT, i guess the fact that its so tall and on a small hill gives you a high RL impression
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Old May 30th, 2003, 02:52 AM   #63
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this went to council again last night to negotiate with developers. Thye want to build 30storey/143m tower but council want them to build the competition winner from last year.



its not to bad.
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45storeys
height to roof-184m
height to north blade -202m
height to architectural spire-242m
So its as high as BT Tower, Chfley & Citigroup Tower!!!

ill let yu know over next few months want the outcome is.
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Old May 30th, 2003, 06:11 AM   #64
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Thanks for the news Cul, anything as close as possible to the Bligh House design would be fantastic, esp considering height. It is a prominent spot and thus looking from the harbour this building would be a great "gap filler" on the skyline ........
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Old May 30th, 2003, 08:17 AM   #65
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Not too bad height wise with Sydney possibly getting another 200 m plus tower.

The design is definately better than a rectanglar building but the fishnet one would of been better.
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Old May 30th, 2003, 12:50 PM   #66
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Not too bad height wise with Sydney possibly getting another 200 m plus tower.

The design is definately better than a rectanglar building but the fishnet one would of been better.</td></tr>
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I talked to planner today, and things are looking more positive for the taller proposal. the LM said NO to the shorter cheaper version! I asked about the "curved fishnet" design which had landmark qualities. the planner said it also was everyone favs but "money" was the factor with that one! it was just too expensive to build! bummer.
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Old May 30th, 2003, 01:29 PM   #67
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Not good enough! Hope it gets rejected hehe

Blight St Apartments were the only decent one......

Everything else proposed for that site has been such a mediocre design and not tall enough....

Maybe in the next development cycle??
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Old May 30th, 2003, 01:42 PM   #68
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Not good enough! Hope it gets rejected hehe

Blight St Apartments were the only decent one......

Everything else proposed for that site has been such a mediocre design and not tall enough....

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I agree! I'd rather they don't build anything on that site for the time being, than build that ugly design!

Then, when someone with some sense of what an attractive tower is, and some recognition of just how valuable the height limit potential of that site is (and there are aren't too many of these sites around!) comes along, they can build something at least as nice (and tall ) as the Bligh Apartments were!
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Old August 17th, 2003, 01:48 AM   #69
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RIP to Bligh Apartments, 1999-2003.

This residential tower was to radically alter the Sydney skyline at 235 metres tall and would of towered over Bligh St in the heart of the Sydney CBD. Will be sadly missed by us all.
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Old August 17th, 2003, 03:01 AM   #70
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Fabian what was the point of that post.You are always stating the ******* obvious STOP IT
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Fabian what was the point of that post.You are always stating the ******* obvious STOP IT
I was making a tribute to this tower.
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Old August 17th, 2003, 05:11 AM   #72
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The group who are developer BT Tower have bougth this site and WILL develope it in next construction cycle!!! they have been told to develope the site as OFFICE and build to 170-80m tall to give the site its fuill potential. A recent meeting sent architects back to drawing board because the bldg submitted was only 120m tall!
They were virtually ordered to build it 180m high! This was conditions by CSPC!"Its landmark status so please design it that way"!!- was a quote by a planner!
there is a god!!lol
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Old August 17th, 2003, 08:51 AM   #73
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Could they let the building be approved without a void and have it filled with office?

And I don't think the building will be a landmark at 180 metres. It would have to be at least 200-235 metres if it were to stand out.
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Old August 17th, 2003, 10:25 AM   #74
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Could they let the building be approved without a void and have it filled with office?

And I don't think the building will be a landmark at 180 metres. It would have to be at least 200-235 metres if it were to stand out.
of course it would be a landmark at 180m!! It would be the tallest in the area! the bldgs either side are only 130m.
The void canyt be filled in. The void is to lift the floor space upwards. (like how capita got its height). the site only gives a certain amount of floor space.The bldg wil be 180m + a spire feature which will take it anywhere from 200-250m.
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CSCP have finally got their minds right! Ensure its tall! lol

Im glad well at least get a 180m tower in the area, i mean it wont block out centrepoint etc, but it'll still make an impact!
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of course it would be a landmark at 180m!! It would be the tallest in the area! the bldgs either side are only 130m.
The void canyt be filled in. The void is to lift the floor space upwards. (like how capita got its height). the site only gives a certain amount of floor space.The bldg wil be 180m + a spire feature which will take it anywhere from 200-250m.
This building at the corner of Bligh and Hunter Streets has to be razed so a taller tower can be built, not to mention the sheer uglyness of the design and how of place the tower is.

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of course it would be a landmark at 180m!! It would be the tallest in the area! the bldgs either side are only 130m.
The void canyt be filled in. The void is to lift the floor space upwards. (like how capita got its height). the site only gives a certain amount of floor space.The bldg wil be 180m + a spire feature which will take it anywhere from 200-250m.
That is planning gone mad. Let me get this straight- In order to satisfy FSR and height requirements, council is demanding that the developer build the tower off huge columns thereby providing a huge void at the building's base?

Sheer freakin lunacy.

If the council want a 180m building then they should revise the FSR requirement for the site. Do they have no sense of economic practicality?
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This building at the corner of Bligh and Hunter Streets has to be razed so a taller tower can be built, not to mention the sheer uglyness of the design and how of place the tower is.

50-58 Hunter st isnt part of the site, so it stays!
Mr Tall, this site is an exception and there are many reasons why it has to reach its full height potential!
the "void" or stilts are actually a cheap alternative to office space.
but it all comes down to making the development worth while. And councillors dont think it will work if its just another run of the mill 130m bldg on such a sought after CBD site!
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I know Cul that isn't part of the site. I was suggesting that they should buy it and add it to the development.
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Old September 24th, 2003, 08:17 AM   #80
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kindersleys back!!!
the new latest design is in. its ok design. It has its 50m void/atrium and its taller than mulpha house at least!
ill post a b/w elavation tonight!
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height to main roof-145m
height to blade-152m (this is actual height of building)
height to spire-168m
no of floors -24 (equal to 40 due to atrium)

So its a 500footer at least!
Its 17m higher than mulphas roof.and spire even higher. The blade which runs along north wall that adjoins Mulhpa is 3m thick and 40m wide so its a substantial element! the spire rises above this!
I think this might be the one to be built as its now has landmark qualities and its higher than Mulpha and has a 50 sun access atrium! these were the key points in last meeting!
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