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Old August 10th, 2017, 01:55 PM   #541
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1) Does the entire route is middle of the road ? Or sometimes on left or right side?

2) Is there any special seats for children, ladies, senior citizens and handicapped persons inside the tram cars ?

3) Is there any system for one day unlimited travel tickets ?

4) Is there any plan to extend the tram line on Kai Tak area? If yes, please write some details.
1. Some sections are right at the curb, with the lane shared by other traffic.

2. No ladies-only compartments on any transit vehicle in HK. Not sure about seniors but tram cars are not wheelchair-accessible.

3. None but there is a 4-day pass which surprised me : https://www.hktramways.com/en/4-day-pass/

4. The government is not sure what technology to use yet.
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Old August 10th, 2017, 08:55 PM   #542
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Yuen Long has no tram, those all are light rail. Light rail and tram are two different things.
Nope.
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Old August 11th, 2017, 05:38 AM   #543
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Tramways

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_Rail_(MTR)

http://lrta.org/world/worlda-e.html#CN

I told on the base of both Wikipedia & Light Rail Transit Association, may be both are wrong.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 10:44 PM   #544
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Tramways

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_Rail_(MTR)

http://lrta.org/world/worlda-e.html#CN

I told on the base of both Wikipedia & Light Rail Transit Association, may be both are wrong.
I have seen trams that could be called light rail, and light rail that could be called tram.

The fact is, it is all just tram, with varying degrees of right of way, (non-) level crossings, etc.

The fact is, Hong Kong is not a double-decker tram only city.
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Old August 15th, 2017, 06:58 AM   #545
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I thought the two systems are grouped under the light rail category by technical definition? They obviously don't seem to be heavy rail (MTR).
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Old August 15th, 2017, 12:24 PM   #546
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The difference is tram is mostly street running and light rail is mostly reserved track running - then compare the Hongkong tram & light rail.
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Old August 15th, 2017, 02:33 PM   #547
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The difference is tram is mostly street running and light rail is mostly reserved track running - then compare the Hongkong tram & light rail.
Where is that definition from? Seems quite different than the heavy and light rail I'm used to seeing when reading transport association reports.

http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...efinitions.pdf

LR ‐ Light Rail is a mode of transit service (also called streetcar, tramway, or trolley) operating passenger rail cars singly (or in short, usually two‐car or three‐car, trains) on fixed rails in right‐of‐way that is often separated from other traffic for part or much of the way.
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The difference is tram is mostly street running and light rail is mostly reserved track running - then compare the Hongkong tram & light rail.
Mostly it's a completely arbitrary distinction made for marketing reasons, or in this case to prevent yourself from just admitting you made a mistake by calling Hong Kong a double decker only city.
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The tram scene in China is very diverse. Once there are many cities where tramway networks exists, but after the notorious anti-tram sixties and seventies—only three cities kept their networks, one of them is Hong Kong. They kept the tram and gradually modified it. It is the only city in the world which has all double-decker trams, perhaps previously this city was under British Administration, and we all know that in UK, almost all tram systems has double decker trams. It is also one of the very few city which haven't closed any routes since the beginning of the service.

But the future I think is dark, because metro line Island is roughly parallel to the tramway line between Kennedy Town and Shau Kei Wan stations. Some sections of MTR tunnels are built directly under roads with tram tracks. So most people takes metro to reach much faster than tram, and obviously tram will run empty and will get loss, so gradually it will be closed, I am afraid, only one route towards Happy Valley will remain opened just as a type of heritage. Following the opening of the West Island Line, daily tramway rider ship drops 10% to 180,000.
I don't think the future for this tram is dark. I remember the tram in Hong Kong being super convenient. You see it coming, hop on....then hop off. On a different note, this is one of the instances where I feel advertising comes across as good looking. Love the variety of colors on the trams.
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Where is that definition from? Seems quite different than the heavy and light rail I'm used to seeing when reading transport association reports.

http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...efinitions.pdf

LR ‐ Light Rail is a mode of transit service (also called streetcar, tramway, or trolley) operating passenger rail cars singly (or in short, usually two‐car or three‐car, trains) on fixed rails in right‐of‐way that is often separated from other traffic for part or much of the way.
Ohh, they why they are called Tuen Mun Light Rail and not Tuen Mun Tramway?
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Ohh, they why they are called Tuen Mun Light Rail and not Tuen Mun Tramway?
Trams and streetcars are types of light rail.
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Ohh, they why they are called Tuen Mun Light Rail and not Tuen Mun Tramway?
Mostly it's a completely arbitrary distinction made for marketing reasons.

Light Rail is just a snazzy name for a tram. They are at least close enough, that you are wrong when you say Hong Kong is double decker tram only, which was the only point I was making.
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