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Old July 21st, 2014, 09:10 AM   #1481
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I think the most disappointing thing is the lack of street level activation. This end of the city is pretty dead as it is, so it would have been nice to see some decent activation to encourage footfall. I doubt a recessed hotel entrance isn't going to do that... . Didn't the original renders have several floors of retail podium? Or am I thinking of Vision...? God, so many unrealised proposals for this site. You'd think they would have found the cursed, ancient indian burial ground considering how deep the basement is...

On a side note it looks as though we might end up with similar cladding to what ended up on the Hilton at the GC if those new renders are anything to do by...
I think the Vision proposal also had cinemas as well as retail.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 12:36 AM   #1482
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Never remember seeing cinemas in the Vision DA.

BCC should be pulling these guys up on lack of street activitation...although they have done well in still keeping the cross block link.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 12:50 AM   #1483
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Vision didn't really have better street activation at all. It relied on people walking through the site. (A003022937) That is the approved Austcorp plan that Billbergia extended before they submitted their own plans.

Vision had 4 retail tennancies on the ground floor of which only 1 fronted any of the two streets. The second floor had 3 tenancies, however this relied on the observation deck for patronage.

Edit: Looking at the original Billbergia plans for 111+222, they are currently proposing more retail fronting Mary and margaret Street than their initial plans (A003087333). They have been able to have more retail facing Margaret Street as there is no need for a large lobby in the taller tower as the hotel componant has been removed.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 02:28 AM   #1484
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I think the included amount of retail is appropriate, given the location. It's more important for a development like 300 George to have a large amount of retail due to its close proximity to Queen Street, than 111+222 which is a bit removed from Queen Street and is down the dining end of Edward Street.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 02:31 AM   #1485
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Agree. It will help the following sites to have larger retail componants.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 02:33 AM   #1486
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The most important type of retail for the neighbourhood around 111 + 222 is in fact convenience-based retail, for the many residents in the development and in surrounding towers, i.e. supermarket, pharmacies, newsagents, cafes etc.

High-end, upmarket designer retail would not be appropriate to the use of the site, except maybe a bit around the lobby of the hotel.
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Old July 24th, 2014, 09:02 PM   #1487
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This just popped up ..

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/quee...724-zwm3s.html

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Plans for the Vision Tower in Brisbane's CBD have been rebooted.
Plans for the Vision Tower in Brisbane's CBD have been rebooted. Photo: Supplied
After years of false starts, Brisbane’s tallest skyscraper finally looks set to get off the ground.

The 90 storey Vision Tower, planned for construction between 111 Mary Street and 222 Margaret Street in Brisbane's CBD, will be the third highest building in Australia, if a development application lodged with Brisbane City Council last week is approved.

The 274 metre structure will fall behind only Melbourne’s Eureka Tower and Q1 on the Gold Coast in height.

Artist's impression of how the Vision Tower might look on Brisbane's skyline.
Artist's impression of how the Vision Tower might look on Brisbane's skyline. Photo: Supplied
The $1 billion dollar development proposal from AMP Capital and Sydney-based property group Billbergia includes both the main tower and a second, smaller high rise in Mary Street, which is planned to house a five star hotel.

The larger of the two towers will be exclusively one, two and three bedroom residences, bolstering CBD apartment numbers by 1100.

In a statement, AMP Capital said construction of the first stage of the site, an eight-level, 900-bay, car park in Margaret Street was nearing completion.

Brisbane City Council approved the initial development application for the site made in 2011, which remains valid.

The fresh application, which an AMP Capital spokesperson said was concurrent with the 2011 application, was lodged following the commencement of the new Brisbane City Plan, which came into effect on July 1.

The new application moves the five star hotel from the larger Margaret Street tower to the smaller, Mary Street tower, replacing what would have been an office building.

It also provides for the larger tower to be an apartment-only structure.

Offices remain a possibility for the Mary Street tower, the spokesperson said.

If as expected the council gives the project the green light, AMP Capital says the residential project will be officially launched later this year.

Construction is expected to take five years.

The Vision Tower, initially proposed to be 80 storeys high, has long been planned for the site but a seven storey hole in the ground was left by the initial developer, Austcorp, which was felled by 2008’s global financial crisis.

John Kinsella's Billbergia Group then bought the site for a reported $40 million.

The Vision Tower will easily eclipse its nearest CBD skyscraper rivals upon completion.

The Soleil building in Adelaide Street is presently the city’s tallest highrise, at 250 metres.

It is closely followed by the 236 metre Infinity residential towers in Herschell Street.

Billionaire developer Harry Triguboff was behind both structures.




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Old July 24th, 2014, 11:43 PM   #1488
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She must be trolling.
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Old July 24th, 2014, 11:44 PM   #1489
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Old July 25th, 2014, 12:28 AM   #1491
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The author is just calling vision, but is referring to the current tower and design
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Old July 25th, 2014, 12:35 AM   #1492
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She must be trolling.
Doubtful, otherwise she would have gotten the heights right for Soleil (243m), Infinity (249m) and the subject of the article itself, 222 Margaret St (270m).
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Old July 25th, 2014, 01:01 AM   #1493
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Pathetically lazy journalism.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 01:32 AM   #1494
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They've obviously stopped coming here to check their information!
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Old July 25th, 2014, 02:13 AM   #1495
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I posted a comment calling her out on the lack of research and incorrect info....it didn't get posted. And now the article has closed further comments. Really makes you wonder how dodgy the rest of their articles are on topics we aren't as familiar with.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 02:29 AM   #1496
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A commenter going by "Wheel" did manage to get a comment of corrections made that did the same thing. It is a worry though. With any major stories I have an interest in, I try to read several versions of from different media outlets. Try and get to the facts by countering any left or right wing bias.
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Old August 4th, 2014, 02:11 AM   #1497
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A proposal for a volumetric subdivision has been lodged with council. It looks like they are applying to subdivide into two lots to allow the sale of the hotel building separate from the taller tower.

I think if they get a hotelier to sign up, it should be an easy sale.

This would mean they are only focused on selling apartments in the taller tower rather than 3 different things at once. A much better outcome IMO.
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Old August 4th, 2014, 12:42 PM   #1498
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I'd love to know what's going on down below 222. That crane has been bringing up bins full of dirt and smaller rocks through the core well and dumping it in a truck.
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I'd love to know what's going on down below 222. That crane has been bringing up bins full of dirt and smaller rocks through the core well and dumping it in a truck.
They are digging/deepening the excavation for the footings of the core for the Resi tower.
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