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Old October 16th, 2017, 08:47 AM   #181
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Very unlikely these port-projects will actually materialize, severe local opposition, and not signed off by the Federal government. Corrupt individuals in cahoots with foreign petrol states.
Why are the locals opposed to it? This could present great economic opportunities. Did the PL authorities sign this deal without the backing of the FG?
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Old October 16th, 2017, 09:43 PM   #182
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I think the lack of transparency on the part of PL is what caused the confusion and subsequent opposition from the locals. Apart from the government's official line of "we will have world class port," there's no clear plan of what and how this project will be implemented. And there's the land issue. Bosaso port is located in the old part of the town and residents there don't want to relocate unless substantial amount of money is paid to them. We will see what happens.
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Old October 17th, 2017, 02:47 AM   #183
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UAE/DP World has been dealing directly with the local governors (not presidents). They have been signing port and military base deals with local governors. They know the federal government does not have control over the country and they are using that as a leverage over FG.

Remember, Farmaajo's first trip to Saudi Arabia, he asked them to pressure the UAE to stop these deals and particularly the military base.

As we all know, Somalia's current economy does not need nor have use for these proposed ports, each of which will cost hundreds of millions of dollars. If built most them will have very little use. It does not make economic sense at all.

One of the federal government's struggle has been protecting and reconstituting the sovereignty and unity of the country. And UAE knows by threatening our unity, they could pressure the FG to yield to their demands. These so call presidents of the Somali regions use the same tactic whenever they disagree with the FG. The latest was the governor of Galmudug who said no flight from Mogadishu can land in Galmudug. Puntland use to do the samething.

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Old October 17th, 2017, 05:38 PM   #184
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Isn't it the failure of the federal government to bring these regions into its fold then? Why would the president of Somalia asking foreign governments to pressure states supposedly under his rule?

Thing is that all the successive federal governments we have had since 2000s have been doing the same thing expecting a different result. Knowing the limitation of the FG's power and influence it has over the regional states, why would you pick a fight with them and try to dictate from afar when you can use these mini states as the foundation building blocks of the nation. Have we seen any genuine reconciliation initiated by any of the successive federal governments? Revenue sharing is still a thorn and non wants to addresses it.

The first thing the federal government needs to do is embrace its weaknesses and show them mini states that it needs their assistance as much as they need the federal government's blessing. But so long as we keep finger pointing and blaming one other, nothing will change. The more the federal government complains to foreign governments the less influences it will have over the rest of the country. And then another 4 years will pass without any meaningful development as far as the nation building is concern.

Lastly, Farmajo and Kheyre are still enjoying the support of majority of Somalis inside and outside and they need to make use of it while it last. Empty threats are bravado towards the regions they were supposed to govern will only make things worse.

I will suggest them to go to Kismaayo, Baydhaba, Baladwayne, Cadaada, and Garoowe and straighten things out with them. Show the people you mean business and willing to settle difference with the states. It's not a weakness to be humble and negotiate even with those you deem as your adversaries,so we will wait and see how the next dice will be rolled.

Sorry for the long rant, guys!!
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Old October 17th, 2017, 09:00 PM   #185
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Actually, what I meant to say is that Farmaajo asked Saudis to help stop UAE from making deals, specially the military base, with the regions.

I don't think mini states will be good for the unity and governance of Somali. We just saw what happened when FG refused to cut ties with Qatar. Saudi/UAE used the 'mini states' to undermine the FG.

FG and states cannot all be responsible for foreign policy, but governors want to control the steering wheel (foreign policy) with the FG, as Garaad put it.

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Old November 1st, 2017, 07:45 PM   #186
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Yesterday it was Berbera port city and today Bosaso port. UAE can bribe local politicians but not the public.

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Old November 1st, 2017, 10:09 PM   #187
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Soomali duul duul iyo aragti ku salaysan caadifad. How is this any different than the Turkish projects in Mogadishu. UAE/Dubai is Somalia's main export partner and the center of Somali businesses, yet some Somalis see them as destabilizing force behind Somalia's long political strive. Let the project at least start. Anything build there will be better than what we current have, no? And no port in Somalia is/will be a thread to Dubai port now or in near future, so let's give this investment and others like it a chance. Or let's forever remain a bunch of emotional squabbling maryooleey .
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Old November 4th, 2017, 08:34 PM   #188
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Baahi baqti looma cuno. Imaaraadka hadii eey daacad katahay waxeey hada waddo 20+ sano kahor ayeey noosoogurman laheeyd. Tusaale waxaa kuugu filan Yemen oo wadan Carbeed ah oo hadana dariska ugudhow khaleejka ah meesha uumarayo waad aragtaa.

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Old November 7th, 2017, 07:41 AM   #189
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DP World continues to target expansion in the Horn of Africa, announcing plans to establish a free trade zone (FTZ) to complement the Port of Berbera in Somaliland.

DP World is modernizing and expanding port infrastructure in Berbera as well as in Djibouti at the Doraleh Container Terminal as part of its strategy of investing in gateways in developing countries rather than transshipment hubs.

The FTZ, which is based on the terminal operator’s flagship FTZ at Jebel Ali, will support warehousing, logistics, traders, manufacturers, and other related businesses, and occupy 12.2 square kilometers (4.7 square miles) upon completion.

The Dubai-based terminal operator will develop the first phase on 4 square kilometers before beginning work on each subsequent phase when the prior phase reaches 85 percent occupancy.

The company in September won a 30-year concession to manage and develop a multipurpose cargo complex at the deep-sea port of Berbera in Somaliland. The first phase of development includes a 400 meter (1,312 foot) quay, a 250,000-square-meter yard extension and gantry cranes and reach stackers. The port currently has no shore cranes.

That work is taking place as DP World invests $590 million in the Doraleh multi-purpose port consisting of 15 berths with an alongside depth of 16 meters and a 23 hectare (56.9 acre) container handling yard. When complete, the terminal will be capable of handling vessels up to 100,000 deadweight tons.

Traffic at DP World rose 8.2 percent in the first half of the year to just short of 34 million TEU as revenue rose 9.6 percent at $2.3 billion and profit slipped to $606 million from $608 million.
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