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Old March 3rd, 2014, 09:32 PM   #1021
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Zanima me da li na dionici Dugo Selo-Križevci ide dupli kolosjek ili obnova postojećeg?
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Zanima me da li na dionici Dugo Selo-Križevci ide dupli kolosjek ili obnova postojećeg?
Pa, postojeći je obnovljen tamo negdje oko 2003 godine. Tamo je v max 140 km/h
Početkom ljeta bi trebala početi izgradnja drugog kolosijeka.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 11:41 AM   #1023
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Pa, postojeći je obnovljen tamo negdje oko 2003 godine. Tamo je v max 140 km/h
Početkom ljeta bi trebala početi izgradnja drugog kolosijeka.
I peglanje zavoja za 160 km/h, kompletno uređenje kolodvora i stajališta i denivelacija prijelaza.
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Netko je snimio vlak na obnovljenoj dionici Okučani - Novska



e sad ja zbilja nemogu procijeniti odokativno koja je to brzina no čini mi se da je ipak više od 100 km/h kolko je bilo (uobičajeno) zadnje ograničenje prije novog voznog reda i puštanja signalizacije u pogon...zna netko?
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Old March 6th, 2014, 07:18 PM   #1025
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ajme kakva razlika u odnosu na ono uobičajeno klimanje po hrvatskim prugama, kao da si u tramvaju. ovo je jako lijepo sređeno
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Old March 6th, 2014, 07:57 PM   #1026
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Pa ide 160, piše i u naslovu filma. Digli su brzinu još od novog VR.

Nego, krenul je ozbiljan nastavak radova na Borongaj - Sesvete, a na Sesvete - Dugo Selo su digli brzinu na 100 ili možda čak više. Potvrdil danas vožnjom u Podravki.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 08:40 PM   #1027
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Aha, thanks.
Ma znaš kak je to s railfanovima...
Ne napišu uvijek točno.

Ideš s Podravkom a ne s veselim varaždincem?
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Old March 6th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #1028
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Aha, thanks.
Ma znaš kak je to s railfanovima...
Ne napišu uvijek točno.

Ideš s Podravkom a ne s veselim varaždincem?
U pravilu idem s Varaždincem, ali danas sam zakasnil (tj. ja sam došel na vreme, ali radile su samo 3 blagajne i čekalo se prek 10 minut...)

Ali kavica i osječko (ukupno 20 kuna) su mi popravili raspoloženje. Restoran na vlaku je zbilja super stvar.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 10:11 PM   #1029
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e sad ja zbilja nemogu procijeniti odokativno koja je to brzina no čini mi se da je ipak više od 100 km/h kolko je bilo (uobičajeno) zadnje ograničenje prije novog voznog reda i puštanja signalizacije u pogon...zna netko?
Vozi malo vise od 100 km/h

Izracunao sam koliko vremena treba da prodje ona 2 pilona sto predstavlja razdaljinu od 100m.

3.5s za 100 m znaci 35s za 1km ili 3500s za 100km

3500s/60 = 58.33min = 0.97h --> ~ 103 km/h.

Cak da mu treba samo 3s, a treba mu vise

3000s/60= 50 min = 0.83h --> ~ 120 km/h

Daleko od 160 km/h
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Imaš slabu štopericu

Meni ispada (gledano po pantografu) oko 1,4-1,5 sekundi. Razmak između dva stupa je 65 metara (izmjereno na Arkodu točno na tom mjestu).

v=s/t=65/1,4..1,5=46,4..43,3 m/s.

A to je ni manje ni više nego 155-165 km/h.
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Vas dvojica niste normalni. Ja to ne bih ni znao pretvoriti u km/h.
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Vas dvojica niste normalni. Ja to ne bih ni znao pretvoriti u km/h.
Pa i zato postoji Google. Ali zbilja, Google zna i računati.

Samo napišeš "45 m/s = km/h" i izračuna

(ili samo pomnožiš sa 3,6)
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Pa i zato postoji Google. Ali zbilja, Google zna i računati.

Samo napišeš "45 m/s = km/h" i izračuna

(ili samo pomnožiš sa 3,6)
Što bi ti, jadan, da ti ukinu gugl na jedan dan?
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Imaš slabu štopericu

Meni ispada (gledano po pantografu) oko 1,4-1,5 sekundi. Razmak između dva stupa je 65 metara (izmjereno na Arkodu točno na tom mjestu).

v=s/t=65/1,4..1,5=46,4..43,3 m/s.

A to je ni manje ni više nego 155-165 km/h.
Moram se ispraviti

60m je u njemackim zeljeznicama razmak stubova za napajanje, vjerujem da je i tu to slucaj.

stopovao sam ponovo vrijeme posmatrajuci pantograf i vijeme je po tome oko 3s, mozda 2.8s za dva stuba ali nikad 1.5s.

znaci 120m za 3s jeste 40m za 1s

--> *144km/h

ako uzmemo u obzir gresku mjerenja i da je malo manje vremena bilo potrebno ja bi reako da ipak leti sa negdje 160 km/h
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Ah, ja sam mjeril jedan raspon, ti si mjeril dva. Samo si se dosta loše izrazil.

I mislim da je razmak ipak 65 metara, tak bar ispada iz mjerenja (razmak portala u kolodvorima je 55 metara)
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Ah, ja sam mjeril jedan raspon, ti si mjeril dva. Samo si se dosta loše izrazil.

I mislim da je razmak ipak 65 metara, tak bar ispada iz mjerenja (razmak portala u kolodvorima je 55 metara)
Standard je 60m, ali pise da se na mnogim mjestima uvecava ili smanjuje razmak ovisno o terenu
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Standard je 60m, ali pise da se na mnogim mjestima uvecava ili smanjuje razmak ovisno o terenu
Nisi u pravu. Izvod iz "Pravilnika o tehničkim uvjetima kojima mora udovoljavati željeznički elektroenergetski infrastrukturni podsustav"

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(1) Za kolosijek u pravcu uz dodatno opterećenje i tlak vjetra do 60 daN/m˛, najveći raspon iznosi:
– za kompenziranu mrežu: 65 m,
– za nekompenziranu mrežu: 55 m.
(2) Za zone vjetra gdje je Pv > 60 daN/m˛, najveći rasponi moraju se posebno odrediti.
(3) U tunelima, ovisno o rješenju kontaktne mreže, upotrebljavaju se i manji rasponi.
(4) Gdje god je moguće, za smanjene raspone moraju se upotrebljavati tipske duljine, i to sljedećim nizom: 65, 60, 55, 50, 45, 40, 35, 30, a u tunelima i 25, 20, 15 i 10 m.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 05:09 PM   #1039
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Ma ovo je dovoljno brzo, nadam se da ću jednog dana iz Splita ić ovakvim brzinama
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Old March 8th, 2014, 02:39 AM   #1040
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Grobo, super karta

Jel bi mogo možda označiti i pruge koje su trenutno u remontu?

nisam ja,ali se netko iz HZ infrastrukture potrudio oznaciti sve projekte u tijeku,meni se cini da neki projekti fale,ali u svakom slucaju pohvala za trud




link na interaktivnu kartu gdje se nalaze i detalji svakog projekta http://www.hzinfra.hr/projektiinfrastruktura
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