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Old September 17th, 2010, 11:06 PM   #41
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Lima's BRT "Metropolitano" is already functioning all the way to the North End of the City. It is free from "Estacion Central", to "Terminal Naranjal" in Independencia. There is a fee from "Terminal Matellini" in Chorrillos to "Estacion Central" of 1.50, which is about 50 cents (US dollars). There is a flat rate, and currently, while the Northern part of the Metropolitano is on testing period, commuters must make a transfer at "Estacion Central" to travel through the entire length of the BRT. There is also an express Service, which only stops at the most heavily used stations, and there will be a Super-Express Service, which will only stop at "Estacion Central", going from North to South and viceversa.
The Metro, called "Tren Electrico" or "Electric Train", is NOT Light Rail, those renders are only referential. It will begin functioning in July 2011, and an extension is projected to the most highly populated neighborhood, San Juan de Lurigancho.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 11:11 PM   #42
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Looks cool. Does the BRT have a separate Right of Way along the entire route, or does it operate with regular traffic?

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It is totally separated. At the Southern Part of the BRT, it goes in the middle of the Paseo de la Republica Expressway, where a busway lies. These stations are made in two levels. Most of the other ones are at ground level. They are all segregated from regular traffic. I think we should merge this with the other public transport thread.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 05:19 AM   #43
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and there will be a Super-Express Service, which will only stop at "Estacion Central", going from North to South and viceversa.
How can that be done? It looks like quite a few of the BRT stations have no bypasses.

Would it be more feasible to have some buses that don't stop at Central?

Oh: I watched the Linea 2 video-- please tell me that the interchange station will have both center and side platforms. Ask Toronto about that.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 09:55 PM   #44
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How can that be done? It looks like quite a few of the BRT stations have no bypasses.

Would it be more feasible to have some buses that don't stop at Central?

Oh: I watched the Linea 2 video-- please tell me that the interchange station will have both center and side platforms. Ask Toronto about that.
There is only a problem with superexpress service in the 5 southernmost stations, but after that there could be a service that (after going through those first stations as local), goes straight to Central, and then straight to Naranjal. It hasn't been put into practice yet, so we really don't know if they're going to do it or not.
Linea 2 is still a project, so we really don't know what it will look like. However, Line 1 will be elevated and going N-S, and line 2 will be at-grade and will be E-W, so it will probably have either one of the platforms.
By the way, all the BRT system is already functioning, and fares are collected throughout the system (except for some feeders that will begin functioning in the next few days)
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Old October 31st, 2010, 04:43 PM   #45
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Thanks, and sorry for my late reply.

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There is only a problem with superexpress service in the 5 southernmost stations, but after that there could be a service that (after going through those first stations as local), goes straight to Central, and then straight to Naranjal. It hasn't been put into practice yet, so we really don't know if they're going to do it or not.
Oh, that makes sense.

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Linea 2 is still a project, so we really don't know what it will look like. However, Line 1 will be elevated and going N-S, and line 2 will be at-grade and will be E-W, so it will probably have either one of the platforms.
In my own city of Atlanta, our two metro lines cross at Five Points Station. That station is provided with both center and side platforms on each line. While it's possible to get from any platform to any other or to the concourse, the layout is set up so that riders are expected to exit the trains to the left and enter from the right, and the left-side doors open a few seconds before the right ones to encourage riders to comply. Doing this creates a more one-directional flow of pedestrian traffic so that entering and exiting passengers don't conflict with each other, increasing capacity and reducing dwell times. Directing the entering passengers to the right-side platforms, which can be quite large, allows additional storage area in case the trains aren't able to handle demand due to overload or service disruption. It's an efficient arrangement that ought to be considered at any station where two Metro lines interchange, though more elevators and escalators are required.

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By the way, all the BRT system is already functioning, and fares are collected throughout the system (except for some feeders that will begin functioning in the next few days)
To me, there's little that's wrong with the BRT system that more buses couldn't fix.

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I'm still very curious as to the layout of the Grau Station, too. Any news on that? Mid 2011 is very close at hand!
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Old November 30th, 2010, 02:31 AM   #46
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I'm still very curious as to the layout of the Grau Station, too. Any news on that? Mid 2011 is very close at hand!
We will know that once the operating company for line 1 of the metro is assigned, in a couple of weeks or so.
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Old December 17th, 2010, 08:02 PM   #47
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Update: The BRT system "El Metropolitano" just began operating the Northern Feeders, therefore completing the first N-S line. All of the stations are currently functioning as well. As far as the Metro goes, its progress is currently around 90%, with some of the stations already at an advanced stage.
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Old January 9th, 2011, 01:16 PM   #48
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consultacion sobre tren electrico

Buenos Dias,
Por toda la informacion que he visto hasta la fecha han consecionado la construccion y supervision de la linea 1 del tren electricos es que hay informacion hacerca de cuando seran las convocatorias para la construccion y supervision de las otras lineas?
Estoy interesada en saber a que entidad puedo contactar para tener mas informacion es que usted puede informarme?
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 09:30 PM   #49
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La extension de la linea 1 (Tercer tramo) tiene el sgte. cronograma:
The extension of Line 1 (Stage 3) of the Metro falls on the follwing schedule:
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El resto de las lineas aun estan en etapa preliminar.
The rest of the metro lines are still in a preliminary stage.
Puedes hacerme cualquier pregunta en Espanol o Ingles. Estaria encantado de ayudar.
You may ask me any questions either in Spanish or in English. I'd be happy to help.
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Old March 1st, 2011, 08:58 PM   #50
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The consortium that will operate Line 1 of our Metro is the one made up of Grana y Montero (Peru) and Ferrovias (Argentina).
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Old May 15th, 2011, 03:47 PM   #51
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Update... I wish my Spanish was better.

They're still saying that the extension of Line 1 of the Tren Electrico will open on July 11:


though I don't see how given the current state of construction:




Still, IMO even a partial opening in July would be pretty damn impressive.

Also, it's been decided to buy new trains from Alstom as well as refurbishing the legacy fleet and the newly-purchased used trainsets. I think this photo is taken somewhere other than Lima:




Meanwhile, the Metropolitano BRT seems to be a mess, experiencing severe difficulties with both feeder and mainline operations despite ridership being half of projections:

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Metropolitan's whereabouts during rush hour collapse

Colmena, Jiron de la Union and Tacna are smaller stops. Some stations are ten times larger than others

Friday May 13, 2011 - 8:00 a.m.

See HERE an infographic on congestion at the various stops of the Metropolitan.

In the corridor of the Metropolitan, the time to peak jumps from one station to another as the day progresses. For example, the terminal Naranjal, in Independence, borders the 10,000 users at 7 am but he receives just 1,000 at 7 pm Meanwhile, Angamos station in Miraflores, is at its busiest just at 7 pm

It is at those times when they are noticeable differences in the dimensions of the intermediate stations (excluding terminals) that are between 128 m² and 1,328 m².

SIZE MATTERS
To the annoyance of many passenger stations lesser extent now house a large number of users. This occurs at stations Izaguirre, Thomas Valle, UNI, Jiron de la Union and Hive.

Although the system has only 300 thousand daily users of the 700 000 projected, some stations are being overwhelmed during peak hours.

This is the case of the station Beehive, the smallest of the system, 128 m², which now receives nearly 8,000 passengers a day. And it is estimated that at peak times, has a volume of 7 people per square meter when the maximum should be only 4. Meanwhile, others of greater length, as the season Sunday Orué in Miraflores (1,054 m²) only gets to 3408.

According to Juan Carlos Dextre, transport specialist PUCP, size does matter stations. "It is about frequency and size of buses stops. The final station of the TransMilenio in Bogota is 6 times larger than Naranjal. It also seems that some estimates were poorly done because there are stations that have been girls, "he said.

According to Javier Baraybar, former manager of Urban Transport Management Castañeda, the size of the stations is decided according to international studies.

NARROW SIDEWALKS
At 7:30 pm a human barrier impedes pedestrian traffic on the bridge and Moreyra Canaval in San Isidro, the most public way station: 15,009 users daily.

In the path of only 1.50 meters bystanders, as Don Luis Saldivar (70), are caught in the tumult. "Every day I go to buy bread and cross this bridge is hell. People come running and pushing, "he said.

The same happens on the station bridge Angamos suffering a similar congestion due to street on the sidewalk. At 8 pm, selling everything from books to quail eggs.

Asked about the issue, the president of Pro Transportation, Juan Tapia, said it has launched a comprehensive study of the trunk road and following results, some stations will be expanded.

"At the moment, we are making emergency interventions. Undoubtedly, after this experience, the stations of the Metropolitan II will be of greater extent, "he said.

It also plans to build a new north terminal Sinchiroca Park, with more capacity for passengers and buses.

He said that the stations Javier Prado, Canaval and Moreyra and Angamos have design problems and must be compatible with the increasing flow of passengers.

To avoid crowding at the stations, it is planned recharge cards at banks, stores and pharmacies.

FIGURES
375.000
Dollar cost the comprehensive study to improve the trunk road from the Metropolitan, said Juan Tapia.


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Old May 29th, 2011, 05:38 AM   #52
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About the metro:


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The current fleet on testing period:



Jorge Chavez Station - Official Album




It's pretty advanced, they have been working quite diligently these past few weeks. I'm sure it's gonna be running on July 11th.

Metropolitano's only has 198 out of their 300 buses running, so crowding should be expected. The northern end has several issues, which they are currently addressing. Personally, in Modern Lima, it's awesome and I can get anywhere in a blink.
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19 Metropolis trainsets for the Lima metro



Alstom has been awarded a contract totalling €130 million for the supply of 19 Metropolis trainsets to the city of Lima, Peru.

Proinversion, an agency promoting private investment in Peru, has awarded a 30-year concession for the operation and maintenance of the country’s first metro line to the consortium GYM Ferrovias S.A.1. The line will serve the districts of Villa El Salvador, Avenida Grau and San Juan de Lurigancho.. Alstom will supply the consortium with 19 trainsets of five coaches each. The first tramset will be delivered in late 2012, and is due to be commissioned in 2013.

The Latin America’s fifth largest city, Lima has around 10 million inhabitants, and the metro line is designed to alleviate the city’s transportation problems. In its final configuration, it will cover nearly 34 kilometres, connecting Lima’s neighbourhoods from north to south via 26 stations. The metro network could eventually total seven lines.

The trainsets for the Lima metro will be designed and manufactured by Alstom production facilities in Europe. The large doors, continuous low floor, extra wide seats and gangways between the coaches will make access and getting around on board much easier. Dynamic information displays and an interior design favouring natural light will improve passengers’ safety and comfort.

To date, 4,000 Metropolis coaches have been sold throughout the world. Alstom has equipped the cities of Barcelona, Istanbul, Singapore, Shanghai, Nanking, Buenos Aires, Santiago de Chile and Santo Domingo, among others. One out of every four metros operating worldwide is an Alstom metro.

1The consortium comprises Graña y Montero S.A, a Peruvian construction and property development company, and the Argentinean rail operator Ferrovias S.


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I can't imagine how a city can function with 8.000.000 inhab and just 9km of metro or train line.

this is the biggest mistery of urbanism for me.
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I can't imagine how a city can function with 8.000.000 inhab and just 9km of metro or train line.

this is the biggest mistery of urbanism for me.
It depends upon how one defines the term "functions." People there are used to it.
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I can't imagine how a city can function with 8.000.000 inhab and just 9km of metro or train line.

this is the biggest mistery of urbanism for me.
It's a pretty disfunctional city, private minibus and van owners do whatever they want with public transportation. And those 9 km of metro you refer too only function as a weekend attraction, not as a commuter metro. However, on July 11th that will change

And most of us are through with it, we demand Metros, LRT and BRT in our city. However, most people are used to it, mainly because they don't know that there might be a different way.
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The contract to extend the Metro to the populous district of San Juan de Lurigancho (if it was an independent city it would be the third largest city in the country) will be signed this week with a consortium made up of Brazilian Company Nolberto Odebrecht and Peruvian Company Grana y Montero. It will be done in 2 and a half years. However, one of the losing companies is trying to contest this and bring down the operation.
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Yesterday I had the pleasure of using the Metro in its testing period, in its first run with passengers.
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Well, it opened as promised. The President of Peru was in attendance, as was... an impressive group of SSC forumers!


Congratulations, Lima, and thank you, Lima SSC forumers! I wish I could've been there, enjoying the Metro and torturing you with my bad Spanish. :P
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Including me on the back This picture was taken in a not very publicized test with passengers on July 9th. We were able to try the Metro before anyone else.
Today, July 11th, 2011, President Alan Garcia inaugurated the second phase of Line 1 of the Lima Metro. Though it will still be tested for an additional month by the operator, in September the residents of Lima will be able to enjoy unrestricted service. It is a day of joy in Lima, even though many people have made it a day to mock the train as the "useless pile of concrete" or "Alan's rubble", but I'm sure they will change their minds as soon as the Lima Metro begins commercial usage.
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