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Old March 4th, 2012, 04:53 PM   #21
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regardez la puissance de l'explosion ce mation a kinshasa qui a meme secoué la camera

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Old March 4th, 2012, 06:40 PM   #22
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Mais quelle idée de placer un dépôt d'armes en plein centre ville?? Il y a apparemment +/- 200 morts et un millier de blessés
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Old March 4th, 2012, 06:52 PM   #23
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Old March 4th, 2012, 07:07 PM   #24
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Damn that was powerful ! U could see how it travelled ! Damn !
R I P to all them souls who are no longer on this planet.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 11:23 PM   #25
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Il faut prier le ciel pour que Kin ne soit un jour victime du même type d’accident car le camp Kokolo, qui est en plein centre-ville, abrite aussi une grande poudrière. En Afrique, la politique (la survie des régimes) prime sur la santé publique; un terrible héritage colonial.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 11:26 AM   #26
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Il faut prier le ciel pour que Kin ne soit un jour victime du même type d’accident car le camp Kokolo, qui est en plein centre-ville, abrite aussi une grande poudrière. En Afrique, la politique (la survie des régimes) prime sur la santé publique; un terrible héritage colonial.
Ciel non!!! Est ce qu'il y a d'abord un dépôt d'armes au camp Kokolo?
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Old March 5th, 2012, 11:46 AM   #27
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Must be something in that name 'Congo'...
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Old March 5th, 2012, 12:04 PM   #28
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'Short-circuit' caused Congo's deadly arms depot blasts
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Huge explosions at an arms depot that killed at least 146 people in Congo's capital Brazzaville were caused by a short-circuit that led to a fire, government officials say.

They say some 1,500 people were hurt.

Rescuers are still searching for survivors amid fears that the death toll would rise further.

The force of the blasts was felt several miles away in the city of Kinshasa, across the border in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

The BBC's Thomas Hubert, in Kinshasa, says residents of east Brazzaville fled when the blasts began.
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He says the explosions started shortly after 08:00 local time (07:00 GMT) on Sunday and continued into the early afternoon, causing panic in both cities.

"It's like a tsunami passed through here. The roofs of houses were blown off," Congolese student Christine Ibata, was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency.

Government spokesman Bienvenu Okyemi said late on Sunday that a short-circuit led to a fire which then quickly spread through the depot.

He added that the confirmed death toll stood at 146, but rescuers continued to comb the area.

The main fire was now under control, the spokesman said, though a number of buildings were still burning.

After visiting two hospitals, visibly shaken President Denis Sassou-Nguesso said the government was doing all it could and urged the Congolese "to show courage and solidarity".

He also announced a curfew in the area and set up an exclusion zone.

The government also asked "several international organisations" to provide assistance in dealing with the disaster, the AFP news agency reports.

Defence Minister Charles Zacharie Bowao earlier appeared on national TV to urge calm in Brazzaville and across the Congo river in Kinshasa.

"The explosions that you have heard don't mean there is a war or a coup d'etat," he said.

"Nor does it mean there was a mutiny. It is an incident caused by a fire at the munitions depot."

Streets in the capital were littered with twisted sheets of metal and debris.
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Didier Boutsindi, of the presidential office, said many people were trapped in the wreckage of a collapsed church.

A worker for Congolese TV, speaking from hospital, told how he was injured amid the panic.

"I was at home and suddenly I heard this explosion coming from the camp," he said.

"There was panic. Houses and walls started collapsing and when we went outside, a wall fell on my head."

In Kinshasa, windows were blown out and roofs damaged by the blasts.

Our correspondent in Kinshasa says many people fled from the river when the explosions started, fearing shelling had broken out in Brazzaville.

China's Xinhua news agency said six Chinese workers were among those killed and several others had been injured, some seriously.

The Beijing Construction Engineering Group said about 140 Chinese workers were at a construction site near the scene of the blasts, the agency added.

Xinhua said the windows of its bureau office in Brazzaville had been blown out by the explosions.
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June 2011, Cyprus: Fire ignites containers holding confiscated Iranian explosives, 12 people die including the navy chief

March 2011, Yemen: More than 150 die when a munitions factory explodes in in the southern town of Jaar

March 2007, Mozambique: An arms depot storing old weapons from the civil war catches fire, leaving more than 100 people dead in the capital Maputo

January 2002, Nigeria: Lagos barracks fire sends rockets flying across the city; more than 1,000 people die, many drown trying to escape
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Old March 5th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #29
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Ciel non!!! Est ce qu'il y a d'abord un dépôt d'armes au camp Kokolo?
Un tres grand depot. no seuelement Kokolo. mais aussi Camp Tshatshi.
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Un tres grand depot. no seuelement Kokolo. mais aussi Camp Tshatshi.
Il ne faut pas confondre camp militaire et dépôt d'armes (je dirai minutions). C'est pour cela que je pose la question car un camp militaire n'abrite pas à ma connaissance des armes, des munitions de guerre. Vous vous rendez compte d'avoir des mines, grenades, bombes dans un camp militaire?? En cas de mutinerie........ Ce sont des sites hautement dangereux, ce sont des bunkers qui sont utilisés.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 02:47 PM   #31
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Il ne faut pas confondre camp militaire et dépôt d'armes (je dirai minutions). C'est pour cela que je pose la question car un camp militaire n'abrite pas à ma connaissance des armes, des munitions de guerre. Vous vous rendez compte d'avoir des mines, grenades, bombes dans un camp militaire?? En cas de mutinerie........ Ce sont des sites hautement dangereux, ce sont des bunkers qui sont utilisés.
Logiquement, oui. Mais voici la réalité:

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Kinshasa: un dépôt d’armes des FARDC réhabilité au camp Kokolo

novembre 23, 2011, | Denière mise à jour le 23 novembre, 2011 à 5:45 | sous Actualité, Kinshasa, Sécurité.



Un dépôt d’armes et de munitions de la force terrestre des FARDC, a été inauguré, mardi 22 novembre, au Camp Kokolo de Kinshasa, après sa réhabilitation par la mission de l’Union européenne en charge de la reforme du secteur de la sécurité en RDC (Eusec). Ce dépôt va permettre de mieux stocker, maintenir et séparer des armes et des munitions tout en respectant les normes nationales et internationales de sécurité, a indiqué le chef du département logistique à l’état-major de la force terrestre, le colonel Lioko.

La réhabilitation de ce dépôt prouve que «la République démocratique du Congo respecte les normes internationales [recommandées] par l’Onu, surtout en ce qui concerne les armes de petit calibre», a souligné le colonel Lioko.

Ce dépôt compte quatre pièces d’environ 5 mètres carré chacune. Dans la première pièce sont gardées des munitions comme des roquettes, des grenades, etc. La deuxième contient des balles de différentes armes.

La troisième pièce, la plus spacieuse, sert à garder les armes lourdes et légères et la quatrième au nettoyage et à l’entretien des armes.

Financé par l’Eusec, ce dépôt est le premier à être réhabilité depuis la tenue, en octobre 2010 à Kinshasa, de la table ronde sur la sécurité physique et la gestion des stocks d’armes et des munitions des FARDC.

Le chef de l’Eusec/RDC a précisé que la réhabilitation des dépôts d’armes et de munitions constitue l’une des composantes de la coopération entre les FARDC et sa mission pour l’amélioration de la sécurité physique et la gestion des stocks d’armes des FARDC.

Cette activité s’inscrit dans le cadre de la mise en œuvre du plan de réforme de l’armée, entériné en 2010 par le ministre de la Défense et anciens combattants, selon le colonel Lioko.
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Source: http://radiookapi.net/actualite/2011...u-camp-kokolo/
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Old March 5th, 2012, 03:43 PM   #32
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Logiquement, oui. Mais voici la réalité:



Source: http://radiookapi.net/actualite/2011...u-camp-kokolo/
Oh la la la.... Nous avons des bons anges gardiens dans les cieux..... Ok, je vois qu'ils ont fait une distinction entre munitions et armes et qu’apparemment les internationales sont appliqués. Merci Pius!!
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Old March 5th, 2012, 07:22 PM   #33
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Le régiment du camp blindé de Mpila, à l’est de Brazzaville en République du Congo a fait des victimes dans le camp militaires et dans quelques quartiers populeux de Brazzaville. Kinshasa qui a aussi subi quelques dégâts mineurs vit la situation similaire. Ses bases logistiques à l’instar des camps colonel Kokolo et Tshatshi sont construits dans des milieux urbains. Radio Okapi a contacté ce lundi 5 mars le député Mohamed Bule au sujet de la proximité des camps militaires dans les habitations de la population. Cet ancien général de brigade à la retraite pense qu’il faut séparer les bases logistiques de camps militaires et construire d’autres camps loin de la population.
«Les spécificités des bases militaires sont de garder en réserve et de manière sécurisée tout ce qui peut servir des exercices tactiques ou des manœuvres ou encore des combats. Les bases militaires doivent toujours être séparées des camps militaires », a expliqué le député Mohamed Bule.
Il affirme que les études stratégiques au niveau du haut commandement existent mais il faut que le gouvernement congolais mobilise des fonds pour délocaliser les camps militaires modernes de milieux urbains.
Mohamed Bule reconnaît néanmoins que la reforme de l’armée et des systèmes de sécurité prennent beaucoup de temps.
Pour le ministre de l’Urbanisme et Habitat, César Lubamba, le projet de délocalisation des camps militaire existe bel et bien mais il se pose encore un problème de financement pour sa matérialisation.
César Lubamba a ajouté que son gouvernement a déjà ciblé les sites où seront implantés ces camps militaires.
«Le gouvernement est en train de réfléchir sur ce problème de déplacement des camps. Le processus est déjà amorcé. Nous devons mettre nos camps militaires en dehors des habitations de la population. Ça demande beaucoup de moyens. Il faut construire de nouveaux camps »a déclaré César Lubamba.
Il faut que les sites sur lesquels les dépôts de minutions sont localisés non seulement soient considéré comme site à haut risque mais également non "habitable".

Source: Radio Okapi
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Old March 5th, 2012, 11:16 PM   #34
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Il ne faut pas confondre camp militaire et dépôt d'armes (je dirai minutions). C'est pour cela que je pose la question car un camp militaire n'abrite pas à ma connaissance des armes, des munitions de guerre. Vous vous rendez compte d'avoir des mines, grenades, bombes dans un camp militaire?? En cas de mutinerie........ Ce sont des sites hautement dangereux, ce sont des bunkers qui sont utilisés.
I know the differences, and am' very much aware of Congolese military bases. Camp Tshatshi is where most of the Republican guards are stationed in Kin. That's where they have their armor and Ammo. Kokolo and Lufungula samething. FARDC's HQ, , their Armor and Ammo. At Ndolo is the Navy and they also have ammo there. although its light ammo. At N'djili Airport. there are FARDC , GR and they have ammo there as well. although although mostly light ammo . Unless things have changed recently.

Anyways. Kokolo, Lufungula, Tshatahi, Ndolo must all be relocated. there are no reasons or excuses why in 21st century a city (small or big) needs to have that many camps . only National Guard must have base in the city and residents must be a distance from the base. ad Bunkers must be a standard to store and maintain ammo.

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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:29 PM   #37
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What a tragedy! After the destruction of lives and property caused by the 1997 civil war, no one could imagine that the worst was still to come…I deeply feel for our brothers and sisters in Brazzaville and hope that this tragedy will also be understood as an opportunity for the people to unite and rebuild the city.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 12:40 AM   #38
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Je comprends pas pourquoi un thread n'est pas dédié à cette catastrophe, et que l'on en parle sur un projet d'élargissement de route.

Hopital militaire mobile des Force Armée Royale (Maroc) suite à la catastrophe de Brazzaville





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Old December 18th, 2012, 06:44 PM   #39
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I have to acknowledge that our brothers from the other side of the Congo river are doing absolutely great when it comes to constructions projects. Out of all airports build or rehabilitated in Congo B, Ndjili doesnt even come close to any of them. We definitely have so serious catch-up to do.

On top of that, I like his concept of accelerated municipalization, where every year, the independence day is celebrated in different region, thus new infrastructures are built in every single region (road, market, airport, train terminal, city hall and so forth...).
Please stop call us borther!! were are not and we will never be. You are brother to rwanda and Burundi not people from congo brazzaville... We just neighbours not like one country ... we dont want be associate to the people of the DRC!
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