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Old July 12th, 2017, 03:27 AM   #6481
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Are both towers going to rise at once or will it be in two stages? I'm not confident she is right about the completion date, that seems very optimistic. Good to hear progress though, I suspect they will start some time next year and finish 2020-21.
One tower at a time.

Raising finance has been the issue for L3 (the developer). Bit off more than they can chew?

No way on Earth for 2019 T1 completion; more like 2021.

P.S. There has been no progress; the project is in limbo. Until I see IGA close I expect nothing which is a shame; it is my number one favourite Melbourne project.
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Old July 16th, 2017, 01:28 PM   #6482
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Melbourne Metro (New Station Renders released)

ARDEN STATION








PARKVILLE STATION








CBD NORTH




CBD SOUTH








DOMAIN STATION







Sources: metrotunnel.vic.gov.au and more info via YouTube
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Old July 16th, 2017, 02:19 PM   #6483
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Arden looks to have a very large concourse relative to the number of people who will probably be using it at first!

Domain looks good, not so sure about CBD South, bit traditional.
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Old July 16th, 2017, 02:55 PM   #6484
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And check out these other shots from the video.

I'm excited about the CBD North Latrobe/Swanston St Corner! I wonder if the reason they're not featured on the website yet is no concrete decision on what building is up top?

And would you look how clean and stylish the Flinders side of Swanston st has come up! No more fast food eyesores! Please for the love of god let it be!


CBD NORTH










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Old July 17th, 2017, 03:56 PM   #6485
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Imagine this view in a few years time, with By the Gardens on the left and Aurora on the right, plus, hopefully, 383 La Trobe's Jean Nouvel tower, 244m, well above Eporo (it is on one of the CBD's high points). The crane behind Trillium is the student tower, 42 La Trobe (behind Conservatory). I had a look at demo progress on the old Telstra site today, and they've finally levelled the massive western wall of the podium. The balance of it looks easy-peasy, by comparison.

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Old July 19th, 2017, 09:31 AM   #6486
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Southbank BVD redevelopment:



i seriously cant wait for this to be done! Its will make such a huge difference!
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Old July 20th, 2017, 01:11 AM   #6487
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From The Australian today:-

Melbourne apartment shortfall looming, says William Deague

The chief executive of the wealthy Deague family, William Deague, has shrugged off fears of an oversupply of apartments in the Melbourne market, declaring the city is about to experience the “greatest undersupply of apartments’’ in its history.

Now run by sixth and seventh-generation members of the Deague family, the Melbourne-based Deague Group is involved in hotel, commercial and residential developments across the *nation and renowned for its Art Series hotel brand.

It is currently finalising construction of Melbourne’s tallest apartment tower outside of the city centre, the $330 million Whitehorse Towers project in Box Hill.

In an interview with The Australian, William Deague rejected economists’ concerns about the state of the Melbourne apartment market after ABS Residential Property Price Indexes for the March quarter showed prices falling in the middle to upper segments — by $535,000 to $700,000 — of the Melbourne apartment market.

The figures prompted JPMorgan’s Henry St John to claim there was an “unhealthy underbelly” in the Australian property market, especially in Melbourne and Brisbane.

But Mr Deague said demand would still outstrip supply in the Melbourne market.

“It is the greatest undersupply of apartments ever being built in the history of Melbourne,” Mr Deague said. “There are 116,000 people moving to Victoria every year. And 20,000 of that is from Sydney.

“We have never ever in Victoria built more than 45,000 houses or apartments, ever. And we have a 1.5 per cent vacancy rate.

“And between the town planning ministers, the banks and the sales restrictions on overseas investors, the sales and the apartment starts especially in the CBD are dropping significantly.’’

His comments follow those of Malaysian developer OSK Property, which last week gave an upbeat view on the long-term outlook for the Melbourne apartment market despite concerns about looming oversupply over the coming years.

“I have been saying this for two years, but you watch what happens to apartment rentals — and I am not saying this being biased — in the next 18 months, because the starts just aren’t there,’’ Mr Deague said.

“You watch how quickly developers rent out the new apartments in the suburbs and in the city. I think we are in for a massive undersupply and unless we get going starting to build stuff, I am worried about employment in 18 months’ time.’’

The Deague Group is currently co-developing the Collins House apartment tower in the Melbourne CBD that will comprise about 300 residential apartments across 61 levels and reach a height of 204m.

It also opened its first Art *Series hotel and apartments in Queensland late last year and is building another on the Brisbane river.

Back in its home town of Melbourne, Deague Group’s $330m Whitehorse Towers project features more than 500 apartments across two towers, with the tallest rising 36 levels to 115m, as well as the family’s seventh Art Series hotel.

It is due for completion in the coming months. There are a number of other high-rise apartment developments under construction in the Box Hill precinct and other parts of Melbourne suburbia.

Mr Deague said his family’s 158-year-old company, which changed its name from Asian *Pacific Group to Deague Group in May, had contingency plans if his forecast was wrong.

“We have our group in the position where we can handle it and just hold,” he said.

“We have sensitised settlement rates. We don’t take on mezzanine finance.

“So on the Whitehorse Towers development we only have to settle half the building and pay back the bank. And then rent out the rest.’’
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Old July 20th, 2017, 01:15 AM   #6488
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Old July 20th, 2017, 01:21 AM   #6489
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Old July 20th, 2017, 11:29 AM   #6490
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Disregard all previous posts...it shows white Australia...and mostly young people...We need a revolution where anyone can be us...I hate dresses and I hate getting into the sun but I understand the world is different now...should I think kids or a dog ? or cat...I hate cats...see, I am thrown into oblivion...2017...I can't post pics...and I know soon I can't post anything...yet...really what world are you entering...really...OK I get, I watched the movie 1984...even when that was the future...Love x
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Old July 21st, 2017, 10:39 AM   #6491
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Melbourne CBD Australia’s Most Densely Populated

21st July 2017 | Category: Australia, News, Opinion, People, Research, Residential, Sector, Sustainability, Town Planning, VIC | Contributor

Newly released Census data highlights the rapid densification of Melbourne’s CBD where the number of residents per square kilometre has more than doubled over the past decade.

The 2016 Census has revealed the most densely populated SA2 region in Australia is now Melbourne, with the 2.4 square kilometre region home to 37,754 residents, equating to 15,754 residents per square kilometre. While Melbourne has taken out the highest ranking for population density, eight of the top ten regions are located around Sydney’s inner city.



A decade ago there were less than half the number of residents in Melbourne’s CBD region and the area ranked 17th for population density nationally. A deeper dive into the Census statistics shows that the residents of Melbourne are generally young, with a median age of just 26 (compared with the national average of 38), 67% are attending university or a technical/tertiary educational institution (national average is 22%) and more than a third (38.5%) have Chinese ancestry.

Additionally, 77% of Melbourne CBD residents have both parents born overseas. The profile points to a large proportion of the population who are overseas students who are utilising inner city accommodation while they complete their studies.

Around 70% of the dwellings in the region are rented and 65% of the dwellings are occupied by non-family households (either people living alone or in a group household).

Interestingly, for such a high population density, the average household size is only 2 people, substantially smaller than the national average of 2.6 persons per household.

With a substantial amount of high rise unit construction still underway across the inner precincts of Melbourne, the population density is set to rise further from here.

Outside of the capital cities, the highest population densities can be found in either popular coastal markets or within key precincts of satellite cities such as Wollongong, Geelong and Newcastle. Even though Surfers Paradise was the most densely populated regional location, it is 95th on the national ranking.

Four of the top five most densely populated areas of regional Australia were located within coastal SA2 regions of the Gold Coast.

Around 80% of Surfers Paradise dwellings are described as flats or apartments, with 56% of all dwellings rented. On Census night, 26% of dwellings were unoccupied, highlighting the large proportion of holiday homes and short term accommodation options in the area.

At the other end of the density spectrum is the SA2 region of ‘Western’, located in South Australia and covering 169,000 square kilometres. The region is home to just 79 residents according to the Census providing for a population density of just 0.0005 residents per square kilometre.
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 03:05 AM   #6492
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So much depends on where arbitrary boundaries fall for SA2 zones, I'm surprised they don't make adjustments so that population density statistics are more meaningful. The most obvious example in Melbourne is the Southbank SA2 which happens to be the SA2 which includes the Kings Domain and Royal Botanical Gardens, making half it uninhabited parkland. If it was proper Southbank, including just the area west of St Kilda Road, it would be in the top 5 in that table, easily.
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Maybe this helps

http://stat.abs.gov.au/itt/r.jsp?Reg...ionASGS=REGION
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 06:05 AM   #6494
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I'm certainly not surprised by the fact that Melbourne CBD is the most dense in Australia judging by the number of apartments that have gone up. I think it's time for more office buildings to add balance.
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So much depends on where arbitrary boundaries fall for SA2 zones, I'm surprised they don't make adjustments so that population density statistics are more meaningful. The most obvious example in Melbourne is the Southbank SA2 which happens to be the SA2 which includes the Kings Domain and Royal Botanical Gardens, making half it uninhabited parkland. If it was proper Southbank, including just the area west of St Kilda Road, it would be in the top 5 in that table, easily.
It's why I prefer the population weighed density.
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Old July 30th, 2017, 03:01 PM   #6496
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This could be considered off topic, but I honestly dig Docklands! Right at the end of Collins St, the towers there are phenomenal and have views to match. I don't get all the criticism - although it is quiet and not as lively as the CBD, but I don't think they necessarily detract - hurled it's way!

If I think back to when I was a kid, when Docklands was still mostly abandoned and Southbank had ONE high rise - Crown - we've come a looooong way. There's still a long way to go. If we can go from that to what we have now in about 20 years, the bulk of which has happened in the last 10, then I look forward to future Melbourne even more.
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Confirmation one of the world's largest companies to set up shop in Melbourne...

Amazon confirms huge ‘fulfilment centre’ to open in Dandenong South

Sam Bidey, Greater Dandenong Leader
August 3, 2017 10:44am


AMAZON has today confirmed it will open its first Australian distribution centre in Dandenong South, bringing hundreds of jobs to the region.

Leader recently reported the online retail giant had been advertising management positions based in Dandenong South and the retail giant now say they will begin recruiting pickers, packers, systems technicians, and HR specialists immediately.

RELATED: Jobs boost as Amazon eyes Dandenong base

The new 24,000 sqm “fulfilment centre” will be located in the Pellicano’s M2 Industry Park in Dandenong South, providing easy access to the South Gippsland Highway, Monash Highway and EastLink.

Amazon’s director of operations for Australia Robert Bruce said the company was thrilled to be creating jobs in Dandenong South and said thousands more roles would be brought to Australia as the company expands.

“Over time, we will bring thousands of new jobs to Australia and millions of dollars of investment as well as opening up the opportunity for thousands of Australian businesses to sell at home and abroad through Amazon Marketplace,” Mr Bruce said.

“This new fulfilment centre will stock hundreds of thousands of products which will be available for delivery to customers across Australia when we launch our retail offering.

“We will be focusing on offering our Australian customers low prices on a great selection of products and can’t wait to get started.”

Dandenong state Labor MP Gabrielle Williams said the development further cemented Dandenong South as a key place to do business.

People interested in applying for jobs at Amazon should visit www.amazon.jobs
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I'm certainly not surprised by the fact that Melbourne CBD is the most dense in Australia judging by the number of apartments that have gone up. I think it's time for more office buildings to add balance.
Agreed, no point just having a city of houses. Need some economic growth and hence demand for office space in line with the population growth.
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I'm certainly not surprised by the fact that Melbourne CBD is the most dense in Australia judging by the number of apartments that have gone up. I think it's time for more office buildings to add balance.
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Agreed, no point just having a city of houses. Need some economic growth and hence demand for office space in line with the population growth.
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ALL fully (more or less) leased and at various stages of groundworks and UC not enough to tie you over yet???
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plus 271 Spring Street and I guess 405 Bourke Street must be starting soon, since it's leased.
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