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Old October 22nd, 2014, 08:15 AM   #13901
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 12:09 PM   #13902
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The view from the top...





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Old October 22nd, 2014, 01:48 PM   #13903
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Can't stop droolling. This view is awesome!
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 02:27 PM   #13904
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WOW !

What a view ! Good picture too... Wallpaper.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 06:06 PM   #13905
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Construction Update: The Newly Topped-Out 432 Park Avenue (from ny yimby)
BY: STEPHEN SMITH ON OCTOBER 22ND 2014 AT 6:30 AM

When Midtown’s first two supertall 57th Street luxury towers started rising, everybody assumed that One57, with its deep blue Christian Portzamparc design, would be the more attractive structure. Many saw 432 Park, with its relentlessly spare and square look, as a leach on the skyline, sucking in all the views without giving anything back in terms of aesthetics

But now that One57 is complete and 432 Park Avenue has topped out at 1,397 feet amidst a minor snowstorm of carefully orchestrated PR, the consensus opinion seems to be the opposite: Extell’s One57 turned out to be a dog, and CIM and Macklowe’s 432 Park has become an icon of the skyline, visible far from Manhattan. (Let this, and the unfortunate clipping of the Jean Nouvel-designed tower above MoMA, be a lesson to those clamoring for more government regulation of the design of skyline-piercing towers.)

Despite topping-out, 432 Park hasn’t yet shown its finished face – the windows are still covered by protective wrap, and the mechanical floors that break up the boxes into discrete sets are still covered in netting.
However it ultimately turns out, the building will – along with 20 Fenchurch Street, in London – define Uruguyan architect Rafael Viñoly’s legacy, likely being the tallest and arguably the most prominent building of his career.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 06:19 PM   #13906
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I had hoped that the intial render was only conceptual when I first saw. This design is pretty boring, the only good thing is the height.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 06:23 PM   #13907
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I had hoped that the intial render was only conceptual when I first saw. This design is pretty boring, the only good thing is the height.


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Old October 22nd, 2014, 06:36 PM   #13908
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Did that come inverted ?
I think that's the view from Australia.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 08:34 PM   #13909
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Construction Update: The Newly Topped-Out 432 Park Avenue (from ny yimby)
BY: STEPHEN SMITH ON OCTOBER 22ND 2014 AT 6:30 AM

When Midtown’s first two supertall 57th Street luxury towers started rising, everybody assumed that One57, with its deep blue Christian Portzamparc design, would be the more attractive structure. Many saw 432 Park, with its relentlessly spare and square look, as a leach on the skyline, sucking in all the views without giving anything back in terms of aesthetics

But now that One57 is complete and 432 Park Avenue has topped out at 1,397 feet amidst a minor snowstorm of carefully orchestrated PR, the consensus opinion seems to be the opposite: Extell’s One57 turned out to be a dog, and CIM and Macklowe’s 432 Park has become an icon of the skyline, visible far from Manhattan. (Let this, and the unfortunate clipping of the Jean Nouvel-designed tower above MoMA, be a lesson to those clamoring for more government regulation of the design of skyline-piercing towers.)

Despite topping-out, 432 Park hasn’t yet shown its finished face – the windows are still covered by protective wrap, and the mechanical floors that break up the boxes into discrete sets are still covered in netting.
However it ultimately turns out, the building will – along with 20 Fenchurch Street, in London – define Uruguyan architect Rafael Viñoly’s legacy, likely being the tallest and arguably the most prominent building of his career.
Eh. I respect the opinion, but disagree.


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Old October 22nd, 2014, 09:59 PM   #13910
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How about accepting his opinion? I'm glad we moved away from the hating sprees against the tower when the design was first revealed some years ago, but I've noticed that recently many members here lash out at anyone daring to criticize it - which isn't exactly the point of a discussion thread either, is it?
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 10:13 PM   #13911
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This is a great building and will instantly take place with the great buildings of New York City.

Each time in Movie or TV shows when they want to show New York, they can give a shot of this building and we will know we are in New York City.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 10:48 PM   #13912
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The view from the top just blows my mind! And that is only the city part of the view. Imagine that PLUS the park part of the view!
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 11:57 PM   #13913
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hold on tight by gothamruins, on Flickr
I just realized that the spires of midtown are ordered in thinnest to thickest from west to east: NY Times, 4 Times Square, BoA, ESB, and then 432 Park Ave.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 11:58 PM   #13914
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That view from the top is just epic. That will persuade some potential buyers I guess.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 12:36 AM   #13915
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When this tower is finished up, and all the windows are in and the netting is down, and the facade is cleaned, then all of the subtle design elements at play here will come together and set this tower distinctly apart from all of its neighbors. Quote this post a year from now. The architectural praise is months away from really pouring in.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 02:08 AM   #13916
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I don't understand why even in NY people are so constructophobic. They have to come up with such lame excuse like shadows which aren't even a real problem 90% of the time.

That's such a first-world problem
"Oh wah, my beautifully maintained park in the middle of one of America's greatest cities has shadows blocking my tanning spot for 10 minutes"
Because people like things to stay the same way -- especially older people. Smaller change might awaken fears of a total takeover or chain reaction down the road. It's not logical, it's just human nature. You would have to live in NY for years as an average person without a crush on scrapers to have any hope of understanding. Otherwise just accept that people have their views even if you don't get it. You are obviously biased. Many people have to live in NY, it's their home or where their work is, where their friends are, etc.. they may hate skyscrapers but are not going to ditch their home and friends/family for that. You can't just tell people to move away from their home if they don't like taller skyscrapers. Older people will have lived in NY for years with moderately tall towers that they are used to and now see their city changing drastically before their eyes. It will be tough to accept. Humans have problems with change it's well noted. People are going to get mad at change and NY'ers aren't a shy bunch and will express themselves. Also, without dissenting voices to check progress, profit minded developers and a government that is controlled by their interest will run amok and public concerns will be tossed aside. If you want that, Dubai is there, China too if democracy doesn't suit you.

Oh and the 'first world problem' argument is bunk. Humans are always greedy and entitled and obsessed with their own petty problems. When they have something or are afraid of losing something, no matter how stupid it might be from an unbiased observer, they don't compare themselves with the lessor and rarely count their blessings. It's biology. The average NY won't be caring what the guy in Syria, Somalia, or small town USA has or doesn't. This is a NY concern, nothing else matters to them, because this directly affects their lives in their minds. This is a major concern for them because they have a world view of keeping things the same way out of fear of a total demise of what they believe in.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 02:11 AM   #13917
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I like the tower now. One57 is a fat lump compared to this tower. Yes, this tower is plainer but it's just far more elegant and less 'put together' in feel. Although I still like One57, it isn't tall enough for it's design. I dislike the waterfall effect on it and i think it's tacky.

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Old October 23rd, 2014, 03:24 AM   #13918
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Because people like things to stay the same way -- especially older people. It's human nature. You would have to live in NY for years as an average person without a crush on scrapers to have any hope of understanding. Otherwise just accept that people have their views even if you don't get it. You are obviously biased. Many people have to live in NY, it's their home or where their work is, where their friends are, etc.. they may hate skyscrapers but are not going to ditch their home and friends/family for that. You can't just tell people to move away from their home if they don't like taller skyscrapers. People are going to get mad at change and NY'ers aren't a shy bunch and will express themselves. Also, without dissenting voices to check progress, profit minded developers and a government that is controlled by their interest will run amok and public concerns will be tossed aside. If you want that, Dubai is there, China too.
While I do agree to some extent, remember NYC is probably the only city in the world which keeps changing at such a rapid pace. Sure, you have cities going up like Shanghai, Shenzhen, or Dubai which are building much faster. Remember though, after they hit the market bubble it's going to become somewhat stagnant. On the other hand, New York City grows at unprecedented levels even without an influx or saturation of unwanted or needed office/residential space.
Don't move in the City and expect to have the same views, for even the next day can bring a new wall to the "concrete jungle". One can only be in a delirious or negating state-of-mind to even believe no change will occur in what is probably the most dynamic city the world has ever seen.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 04:06 AM   #13919
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kanto better update his nyc construction diagram
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 04:36 AM   #13920
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I think that's the view from Australia.
Australian here. Can confirm that is how we see it.
Looks great from down under.
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